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Just a quick update..... I continue to be amazed and more importantly, it really pleases me when deliveries scheduled for a time frame get done promptly. The new integrated dishwasher we had decided to buy as the old one was still working perfectly after about 12 years, was delivered at 07.35. Decission to replace was made based on the redesign of the kitchen layout and the fact the dishwasher is now going to be integrated. That is pretty cool in my book. Pics etc of today later for those www.retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=othrmod&action=display&thread=138058still with us.
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Last Edit: Oct 15, 2012 6:55:05 GMT by grizz
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It starts looking like a kitchen when the work tops go on, looking very good........Our corner unit door was nigh on identical to yours & we have no instructions to work with.......They must do it on purpose.
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Past: 13 VW Beetles from 1967 - 1974 Bay Window Campers (1973 & 1974) Mini's (1992 Cooper lookalike & 1984 '25 Anniversary) MK2 Polo Coupe S (1984 & 1986) MK2 Polo Breadvan (1981 & 1984) MK4 Escort (1989) MK2 Granada Based Hearse (seriously) Fiat Uno 60S (1986) Punto 60S (1998) Cinq (1997) 1998 Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat 2003 Ford KA
Current: 2004 Ford Focus (barely alive)
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Looking good, that is a big kitchen to refit.
Had to tell but are the flexibles you fitted 'free' at the tap end? Last set I fitted were fixed so you had to rotate the whole tail into the tap, and then fix the compression end. Of course you can loosen the compression end to allow rotation but sometimes still a little tricky upside down and some taps easy to cross thread.
Are the base cupboard backs solid or thin ply? I fitted one with thin ply before (slotted into a grove seemed solid) and after a couple of years of forcing tins etc in they popped out against the wall. Was a pain to fix with cupboard in place so always make sure I stick a bit of extra wood or similar around the edges to stop it now.
I also find the empty void behind the plinth is a great place to store related items like spare tiles, flooring etc for future repairs/expansion without taking up useful storage elsewhere.
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Oct 15, 2012 10:36:01 GMT
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Looking good, that is a big kitchen to refit. Had to tell but are the flexibles you fitted 'free' at the tap end? Last set I fitted were fixed so you had to rotate the whole tail into the tap, and then fix the compression end. Of course you can loosen the compression end to allow rotation but sometimes still a little tricky upside down and some taps easy to cross thread. Are the base cupboard backs solid or thin ply? I fitted one with thin ply before (slotted into a grove seemed solid) and after a couple of years of forcing tins etc in they popped out against the wall. Was a pain to fix with cupboard in place so always make sure I stick a bit of extra wood or similar around the edges to stop it now. I also find the empty void behind the plinth is a great place to store related items like spare tiles, flooring etc for future repairs/expansion without taking up useful storage elsewhere. Great comments and observations mate, Thanks. The tap flexibles are currently loose, till the worktops is cut etc..... Hope it is an easy fit. The new Hedingham series from Cooke & Lewis at B&Q are solidly built. The carcasses are 18mm particle board, up from 15mm in the past, and the backs are 9mm MDF and very sturdy. LOVE THE STORAGE IDEA!! It is always a battle to find space, and then to find what you stored 5 years down the road when you need it. I will be following that route for sure. Right, back to work, coffee is done. PS: Fridge freezer is delivered.... however the kitchen door had to come off as the apperture is 720mm and the fridge is 750mm incl handles. Guys battled and got it in...... worth the "drink" Nicola gave them. (this is where voucher discounts online pay back)
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Oct 15, 2012 21:48:27 GMT
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Going to keep this update short except for a couple of tips. Well, as mentioned, we had ordered a new integrated dishwasher as the old one (though not used a lot) was over 12 years old according to the previous owners of the house. But we wanted to go integrated with the new kitchen. We decided to order this on Saturday morning with scheduled delivery between 07.00 and 13.00 Well, at 07.35 the truck was stopped outside in the street and less than 10 minutes later the machine was in the kitchen and I had signed the electronic checker and the driver was back in the cab with his assistant, turning the truck around outside. Six watchers on Ebay for the old Hotpoint dishwasher, so hopefully we will get a bit of money back from the sale if it sells. Not long after them was the delivery of the "American style" side by side fridge freezer. This was bought because of the change in layout of the kitchen to give Nicola more worktop space, and due to the fact that the fridge had not kept vegetables crisp/fresh since we had moved in here two years ago. The two guys clearly knew what they were doing and had done this before...... The fridge was 750mm deep including the handles, but our Kitchen door only 720mm..... OOOOPPPPSSS !! I had not checked the doorway before ordering the fridge. Fortunately I had the cordless drill at hand and we removed the kitchen door to get the monstrosity in. Door removed. In place..... Nicola was saying earlier that she would have to get used to the large fridge/freezer. The rest of the day was spent doing various smaller tasks that were needed to make other parts of the kitchen function, like chopping some of the plaster away behind the dishwasher and washing machine pipes, cutting clearances behind the units and getting everything set and perfectly horizontal etc. I also managed to get the kitchen sink recess cut and prepped. As always, Harley had been hovering nearby all day while we were working.... and the moment I was done cutting the new worktop, she was up and made herself comfy. I have never known a cat to be so set on being in the thick of things when machines are running. This whole project is taking a bit longer than planned, but I am doing most of the labour on my own. Last pic tonight.
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2012 19:46:59 GMT by grizz
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Looking good and fairplay if you're doing the bulk on your own as it makes it far longer. Even just fitting that many handles and doors (making sure you drill in the right place) can take a while.
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Oct 16, 2012 17:19:23 GMT
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Looking good and fairplay if you're doing the bulk on your own as it makes it far longer. Even just fitting that many handles and doors (making sure you drill in the right place) can take a while. Other than Nicola's contribution which includes carrying, observing, coffee, tea, sandwiches, moral support and most importantly.... Price Hunting and making a patented handle-hole drilly thingy to help me place the holes correctly when we get to fitting the handles. I am indeed doing it totally Solo.... which you are right adds a load of time to the build.
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Oct 16, 2012 18:06:22 GMT
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Today was another interesting day. Not a lot done, but much achieved. I made up all the drawers and fitted all the doors until I ran out of soft close hinges. Also had to make various cuts in the work top and in the back of the carcasses to get them all to fit tightly against the rear wall. I still have to figure out how to gain another 22mm in depth of the dishwasher... the integrated door will still be sticking out in front of the rest of the doors etc. Now here comes today's lesson..... We had ordered the kitchen after the design consultant had made it all look great on PC and printed it all off for us. Then I checked the measurements he did against what I physically had and and on one run found 200mm missing.... Went back and redesigned the lot to get it right. Once the delivery came we checked everything, and what had been scanned was here. BUT..... as I assembled and went along, it became apparent that some bits were not there.... fittings and also three of the soft closing hinges and a work top "Butt joint piece" So I went back to B&Q today to order and pay for them..... about £29.00 which included a £6.00 delivery charge, which irks me no end as it should have been right the first time. The other side of the coin was much more shiny though. These builds are automated to some extent, so when you order certain items, they will automatically be topped up with stuff tht goes along with the item. I ended up taking some stuff back today as well when I went to order the stuff that never made it to our place. Firstly, I went to the returns section and the lovely lady behind the counter gave me a look that you give the mirror when you discover a boil on the end of your nose on the night of a first date..... Next she told me that because the goods were delivered they would have to be uplifted by the same people...... BUGGGGGAAA !!!!! That really gets me miffed. I then went in to see the consultant as he had said he had some of the bits that were never supplied with one of the doors. I also asked for some Soft close hinges to get the three I needed to finish that part of the job today. He had neither and said they needed to be ordered from a central distribution depot..... WHAT ?? No hinges in the whole of the biggest B&Q in the UK?? I was again told that I needed to take all the stuff I was returning home to have it uplifted from there..... ohh, and while I was in the shop, I could go order and pay for the extra hinges at the Trade Point counter. I went off to the Trade Point expecting more lackluster performance..... Met by a lovely lady, she observed and asked if I was returning the trolley full of stuff I had with me? I told her that I had been told that I could not return in the shop by two people.... to which her response was that she thought that was absolute rubbish and would see if she could get it sorted for me. 20 minutes later all the stuff was returned, they had called a manager from some dark place to approve the refund and I paid for the stuff I needed and was off to pick up Nicola and one of the cats at the vets. Look closely at the size of the refund I managed to get, just on stuff that had been supplied that I could or did not want to use. The only item we returned, after ordering it, was the magic cupboard at £216.00 So today's lesson is to make sure you only pay for what you need. Photo of receipt for what was returned. Thanks to those of you who contribute with advice, comments and tips. It is always good to get feedback.
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2012 19:49:24 GMT by grizz
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Oct 17, 2012 21:37:18 GMT
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Well, after the excitement of the £923 refund yesterday there was still the matter of the extra inch I had to lose on the depth of the dishwasher to get the integrated door to fit flush with the rest of the units. Yesterday or the day before I had chiseled away about 10mm in depth of the plaster and wall to get the drain pipe recessed some more behind the dishwasher.... but still I ended up with that inch to lose. This morning Nicola left for work early, and I looked at the "problem" again...... Saw the solution.... Chopped about 180mm out of the right hand drain pipe..... soooo easy. Moved the lot over to the left. Pushed dishwasher into its space, nice tight fit. Perfect. Next up was the new mixer tap fitting. There is a specific sequence... last bit to be tightened is the mains side. Dexterity of a blue arssed monkey needed. Getting the mixer fitted and tightened singlehandedly necessitates the again, two sets of hands. One set above and one set below. Being solo meant plan B and a roll of masking tape. Anchored the tap onto the sink with strips of masking tape with me crawling under the unit. Along with that bit of nifty engineering I also made up another nifty tool.... yes, with the masking tape again in use. Using the wood chisel that had been converted to general chipping/digging tool I seated the long brass nut and then proceeded to tape it to the "screwdriver. Another long flat screwdriver was used to push and seat the horse shoe shaped brass washer that holds the water pipes in position. Well, eventually all the stars aligned and I got the lot screwd together..... Woooohooo. I also silconed and clamped the sink into the hole, connected the drainage etc..... just as Nicola came home. Tomorrow I can start final fixing and tying everything down. Then last job will be tiles.
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2012 19:50:25 GMT by grizz
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Oct 17, 2012 23:09:39 GMT
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Grizz is the man I want to be, but am too lazy to ever become.
Awesome work mate.
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Last Edit: Oct 17, 2012 23:10:07 GMT by VND
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Yep good work again. I frigging hate fitting taps, upside down in a cupboard, dropping a spanner in your face. Tend to try and fit tap to the sink first then fit the sink when possible.
I had the same dishwasher issue on ours, luckily it's not built in so I just convinced the wife it should be slightly proud to vent the steam when you open.....
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Yep good work again. I frigging hate fitting taps, upside down in a cupboard, dropping a spanner in your face. Tend to try and fit tap to the sink first then fit the sink when possible. I had the same dishwasher issue on ours, luckily it's not built in so I just convinced the wife it should be slightly proud to vent the steam when you open..... Now theres the hallmarks of a true bodger. Make sure the bodgee understands why the bodge is so important to the survival of the whole project. Worktops screwed down and about to fit kickboards.
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Sitting having my brekkie sandwich and coffee. Woke at 03.30 but of course could not come down to work, did have a mug of tea at 04.00 and then surfed the web in bed on my iPhone. Put that down at 05.10 and snoozed till 06.30 when Nicola's alarm got her going..... I did the "Friday Blue Jobs" like the trash, clearing some of the stuff from the garage that could go out with the rubbish. Also was hacking back various creepers that grow down at the garage and garden as it is "Brown wheelie bin" day today, so garden refuse goes out as well. With the turning of the season there is a load of leaves (well, there was) Today is a light day with loads of hole drilling and I have to go fetch some tile cement and grout down at the industrial estate. Yesterday was reasonably slow as well. I fixed the sink U-Bend leak with a bit of PTFE tape that Jim, the neighbour two houses away brought around, as I had given mine to Mickey months ago when he needed some at his mum in laws place. Also did all the worktop end plates, a "Butt" joint and then screwed down all the worktops and joined the carcasses..... kinda committed to finishing this job now. I have probably wasted two days along the way by losing interest and getting bored with parts of the build, seeing me cutting the grass or surfing the web. Cut all the skirting boards..... TYPICALLY, due to me keeping the previous layer of soft flooring (both as insulation and because it feels great underfoot) when I had the floors redone when we did the "Green room" and whatever other reasons, I had to trim off about 9mm from the three 3 meter lengths, thankfully the table saw I had snagged off Ebay about 4 years ago when I built the Teardrop trailer is still offering great service. I also used the offcut that I edged with some stashed edging to make up a new windowsill until I can find a sensibly priced piece of 1000 x 160 x 25 mm oak or similar light wood as Nicola does not want the old dark wood one back there. The other window is lower than the worktops, so I have created a trough for the blinds and window to carry on working as before. To blank it off another piece of offcut was edged and will stand up about 50 mm above the worktop to stop stuff falling back over the edge. Using the boss' iron to iron on the edging gave great results and no glue on the surface. Windowsill Trough edge. Last thing I did was to use Nicola's patented "Handle hole drilly thingy" to mark out all the holes that I will be drilling in a few minutes...... I also made one up for the drawer fronts from an empty pizza box as it is completely different and the drawers are not the same size, so holes move around. That was where the day ended in the kitchen. When Nicola got home from work, she said that she was tired of eating her dinner out of the toaster and fridge...... Could we go out and have cooked meal somewhere ?? As we do not do much of that sort of thing, I agreed and we went off to the a Local Pub about 3 miles from home. The Windmill Pub has been there since Nicola's grandfathers time and before that...... He is in the front row of this photo taken in front of the pub a long time ago...... Happy girl. I had a Mixed grill (no egg though, and I substituted the chips with loads of veggies as that was what I really wanted. Nicola had the Steak and Kidney Pudding (yes, that is what it is called We ate in the pub section, as the restaurant was "closed" as it was Quiz night. There was a lovely fire going in the pub as well, which was a really nice addition to the atmosphere and the barman was a lovely older gent..... Perfect. Well, Perfect once we had our deserts.... Nicola went for a blast from the past memory flashback, having the Rhubbarb Crumble with Ice Cream and I went for a Syrup Sponge and Ice Cream All in , a lovely evening, came home to watch a bit of telly.... American Pickers if you need to know. Nicola was asleep before the first ad break. Desert menu....... Right, back to work for the day. Hope you guys are stil here and enjoying as it is almost over.
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Last Edit: Oct 21, 2012 19:52:21 GMT by grizz
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He is in the front row of this photo taken in front of the pub a long time ago...... That's a great photo, chaps in hats & facial hair. The build is looking great, you're through the worst bit now & the finish line aint far away.
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Past: 13 VW Beetles from 1967 - 1974 Bay Window Campers (1973 & 1974) Mini's (1992 Cooper lookalike & 1984 '25 Anniversary) MK2 Polo Coupe S (1984 & 1986) MK2 Polo Breadvan (1981 & 1984) MK4 Escort (1989) MK2 Granada Based Hearse (seriously) Fiat Uno 60S (1986) Punto 60S (1998) Cinq (1997) 1998 Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat 2003 Ford KA
Current: 2004 Ford Focus (barely alive)
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Oct 19, 2012 17:59:52 GMT
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Well, after the excitement of the £923 refund yesterday there was still the matter of the extra inch I had to lose on the depth of the dishwasher to get the integrated door to fit flush with the rest of the units. Yesterday or the day before I had chiseled away about 10mm in depth of the plaster and wall to get the drain pipe recessed some more behind the dishwasher.... but still I ended up with that inch to lose. This morning Nicola left for work early, and I looked at the "problem" again...... Saw the solution.... Chopped about 180mm out of the right hand drain pipe..... soooo easy. Moved the lot over to the left. Pushed dishwasher into its space, nice tight fit. Perfect.. Great work there, you got more patience than i would ever have. One point i would make though ... shouldn't the power socket be above the waste pipes? thinking if you get a leak, and, worst case senario you get an insurance payout refusal
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Oct 20, 2012 22:06:19 GMT
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Thanks guys.
WRT plug-water interface. I feel that as long as everything is done right, we should not have any problems.
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Oct 21, 2012 18:44:51 GMT
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I have to agree with optimus prime, whilst you were in there, why would you not correct that? You don't even have to unwire it if you don't want to, just move the pattress up with the socket as one unit.
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Oct 21, 2012 19:31:14 GMT
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Oct 21, 2012 20:19:45 GMT
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Oh and whilst your at it, if you could just replace the units in my kitchen too? No?... curse word!
Good work sir, you are the mark at which we should grade ourselves, and be happy to be half as good!
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Oct 21, 2012 21:57:16 GMT
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Sorry to those still looking.... Had Goose over yesterday and last night, so updating would have been a bit rude. In stead we had a great evening, with Nicola feeding us, and then watching three episodes of New American Pickers back to back. Today we were on the go from 8am.... tiles. BUT FIRST..... Yesterdays report. Started with the drawer fronts, drilling the holes, followed by the doors. Next up was cutting back all the screws by about 20mm as they are supplied long enough to penetrate a house door. I started off using one of my grandfathers tools....then switched to a large pair of pliers. Fitting the handles was quite interesting, as I ended up re-drilling all the holes again, this time with a 5mm drill bit as the 4mm was the right size, but too tight a fit. As I have not been sleeping that well recently, I found myself making this mistake once..... Later on I had finished the handles, but found that there were 3 handles missing.... NO IDEA HOW THAT HAPPENED. So ordered some more off Ebay. Still, happy with the results up to this point. Note, the dishwashed door had still not been fitted. A bit of procrastination? YESSSS !! Later on I had cleaned up and started to move the tools to the lounge, then Nicola came home...... guess what....? Nesting instinct kicked in and she started to repack the cupboards. Well, that is it for now, next session will be the tiling. Almost 23.00 here, so bed time, the fire has burned out as well.
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