scmick
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Aug 21, 2012 20:31:52 GMT
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 Liked the idea of the tiny rear engined Abarths but not the prices they fetch...so built this in the same spirit. FIAT 133 (£200 from ad in CCW) and the mechanicals from one of the 30+ SIMCA 1000's we've had over the years. Runs 1294 SIMCA 1000 Rallye engine & box on bike carbs (Honda CBR600) with Rallye 3 race cam. Has SIMCA 1000 front suspension to give it discs, proper ball joints and rack & pinion. Mick |
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scmick
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Aug 21, 2012 20:38:18 GMT
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What became the SIMCA 1000 in 1961 was a reject design study for the original FIAT 850 and the 133 was a SEAT built 70's rehash of the 850 so parts fit in many cases. The FIAT/SEAT driveshafts fitted directly into the SIMCA box with no mods. Rad was moved to front hence need for a grille..which came from a 100E Ford..!! Cage id cut& shut from a 'dead' FIAT 124/LADA rally car
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laks
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Aug 21, 2012 20:53:01 GMT
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Cool, More pics please!
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hairymel
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1976 FIAT 133 1294cc SIMCAhairymel
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Aug 21, 2012 21:08:40 GMT
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welcome to RR mick  |
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whats that burning smell?
oh curse word :-(
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scott
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Aug 21, 2012 22:08:02 GMT
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Good to see the Fiat running up the hill at the weekend, me and my other half were parked next to you at PPC £999 challenge too a while back (in a Blue Cavalier)... those bike carbs make it go a load better!! keep up the good work .
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scott
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Aug 21, 2012 22:11:42 GMT
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scmick
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Put the bike carbs on for Prescott. Was amazed at the improvement. Had been using a pair of DCOE Webers I'd had on various SIMCA engines since the 80's. All year, especially at the PPC £999 Challenge it's misfired at top revs. I know thw jetting's right for the Rallye 3 cam..I just think the Webers need a thorough overhaul after 30 years' use....!!!
As for 133's left in the UK, I know of a few more but they certainly don't reach double figures.
There's a guy with a red one he's equipped with a 903cc Abarth tuned 850 Sport engine and I sold the standard parts out of mine (850 engine, box etc.) to a guy from Leicester who has a mint moss green one. He said his mate had one too. Also, a white one came up for sale about a year ago.... for a lot more than I paid for mine.... will post more pics soon.
Mick
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Aug 22, 2012 10:23:44 GMT
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I demand more pictures! What an awesome car!!  |
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Aug 22, 2012 10:28:34 GMT
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Where is that front grille from?
More photos, more facts and more everything please.
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Aug 22, 2012 11:21:58 GMT
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 [imghttp://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i347/wardsim/100_2311.jpg][/img]  Shots from an Oullton park trackday earlier this year and from Prescott last Sunday. Fitted Talbot Alpine radiator in front 'spare wheel well' and originally covered intake hole with mesh...until this Ford 100E grille came up at an Autojumle for £2... It's fitted upside down on the FIAT. Mick |
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Aug 22, 2012 11:28:45 GMT
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[imghttp://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i347/wardsim/JL4C0522.jpg][/img] SIMCA powered 133 lines up at Santa Pod with the donor of its 1294 engine. The green SIMCA 1000 9that I ran at the 2011 Prescott RRG) now has a Honda CRX twin cam fitted to the SIMCA box... will post stuff about that separately. Have some Photos of suspension mods etc when I find them.  |
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Aug 22, 2012 11:37:17 GMT
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Photo of 133 and CRX powered SIMCA 1000 that should have come up on last post. Mick |
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scmick
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Aug 22, 2012 11:38:45 GMT
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 Got it right this time..!!!! |
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Aug 22, 2012 15:38:50 GMT
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 SIMCA 1000 front suspension uses same transverse leaf spring arrangement but has wider track, disc brakes, ball joints & direct rack & pinion in place of the drums, kingpins and steering box the 133 inherited from the basic 850's. AVO Coilovers 9intended for a beam axle Mini conversion)add adjustment. At rear, FIAT suspension retained, cut down coil springs and adjustable coilovers (Talbot Samba front struts) added to handle extra weight of SIMCA motor. |
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Aug 22, 2012 20:39:30 GMT
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 FIAT & SIMCA share 98pcd wheel centres, fronts are 5.5x13 with 175x50x13 Yokos, rears are 8x13 with 215x50x13s..to match wider track on Front suspension. Front compartment holds alloy fuel tank, battery, radiator and Bosch electric water pump. |
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Aug 26, 2012 20:29:21 GMT
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I read somewhere that Simca actually started out building Fiats under licence, so perhaps that's why so many parts are interchangable.
Great to see a 133, they weren't exactly common when they were current.
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1953 Minor (Long term project)
PT Cruiser
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scmick
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Aug 26, 2012 22:14:03 GMT
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I think the first SIMCAs pre 2nd World War were badged SIMCA /FIAT. Their first big seller was a SIMCA FIVE which was basically a rebadged version of the prewar FIAT Topolino. SIMCA went more their own way through the 50's and 60's, the FIAT influence finally ending mid 60's when Chrysler took control.
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Jun 21, 2013 20:32:26 GMT
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The 133 won't get its run out at the PPC £999 Challenge this year as that's cancelled. WE were going to have both this and my Honda CRX powered SIMCA 1000 out there. May give it a try at the Retro Show although I'll have the engine out of the supercharged SIMCA 1000 soon .... may be the time to measure it up to see if it will fit in the 133..??
Mick
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scmick
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 another shot of the 133 at RRG 12. Mick |
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Jul 22, 2013 12:23:49 GMT
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Great looking little car - the Fiat 126's bigger brother.
I remember seeing these everywhere in Spain, badged as Seats.
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