mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Aug 14, 2012 12:06:17 GMT
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It sounds to me a bit like vapourisation in the fuel lines. Has the petrol got much opportunity to get hot en route to the carb? Matt and I thought that yesterday, there is a sold metal fuel line from the pump to the carb (US regulation). The line doesn't feel hot though, certainly not hot enough to be boiling the fuel anyway.
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Aug 14, 2012 12:07:59 GMT
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Bah James, that was going to be a surprise! I jokes. Ive not yet tried again to get it on, I'd have to do away with the horn aswell... But yeah, it runs, and I've even brought its ugly ass to work this morning. Better not mention the other things Yeah, not that they're fitted anyway. It might be a Saturday afternoon on the campsite job that...
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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And Ive driven it to work again this morning. Theres not much fuel in it, and the drive to work takes in reasonably steep hill thats about 300yards long which it powered up (and along the 2miles of duel carriageway beforehand) with no hint of stalling/cutting out/fuel starvation. The engine was still cool when I arrived. If there was anything in the tank, it would've picked it up under these conditions, I'm sure of it. So, fuel pump this evening FT(hopeful)W. Also, Matt, I sorted that rattley caliper. Now its cruises in silence
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I can't wait till you get this sorted!
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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Good luck mate
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stealthstylz
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Aug 15, 2012 10:06:46 GMT
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What was up with the caliper in the end? Can't wait to do some crackhead cruising.
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mk14dr
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Aug 15, 2012 10:13:40 GMT
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What was up with the caliper in the end? Can't wait to do some crackhead cruising. Whoever last had the brakes apart hadn't bolted it back down, filling me with confidence for whatever other work has been carried out.
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Aug 15, 2012 18:50:13 GMT
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is it working ok now??
cannot wait for a ride in this bargetastic bit of tin!
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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mk14dr
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is it working ok now?? cannot wait for a ride in this bargetastic bit of tin! No. Fitted a new fuel pump this evening after work, still no joy.
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Gunk on the fuel pickup would be my bet here. Good luck This is literally the only thing left for it to be. New parts go as follows: Dizzy Rotor Arm Cap Plugleads Ignition Module Ballast resistor Coil Carb Fuel pump Fuel filter Airfilter Now, unless ive missed something obvious, and I don't think I have, then it MUST be something being picked up in the tank. I don't think its the fuel lines rotting/breaking down inside, as Matt and I cracked the line off at the carb and the fuel was coming through clean. If it were a kinked/crimped/trapped fuel line it wouldn't give these symptoms, it would be a constant lack of power but it wouldn't make it cut out. And as far as I can see, they are all in good, clean nick.
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Aug 16, 2012 13:16:08 GMT
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I feel for you, I really do. Nothing worse than a persistent yet intermittent fault especially what causes it to die...
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Aug 16, 2012 13:24:05 GMT
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I feel for you, I really do. Nothing worse than a persistent yet intermittent fault especially what causes it to die... I should've heeded your advice from the start Akku, I mean, I won't know until tonight for sure, but if I find something in the tank, I could've saved myself £350 and been using it for the last month. I hope there is something in the tank now, really I do.
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Aug 16, 2012 13:27:35 GMT
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On the Anglia that I dealt with it had the same issues as stated previously. I changed all the fuel pump / electrical parts like you did. When I took tank out it was fine which left only the fuel line. I'd fitted a new filter so confident it wasn't picking wibblepoo up. And when I disconnected the fuel line at carb - nice clean fuel coming through. Given how much a fuel line would cost to fit I still say thats next best option. When I cut through the line I took off the Anglia the inner diameter had been restricted by a build up of jellied fuel - it was half the internal diameter it should be. THe symptoms you give would make sense as when the engine is wanting more fuel it cant get it. It must be simple job to bypass the factory line to at least tick it off the list. That SInger I had, had the very same problem but that had been stood since 1974 and you couldnt get anything through that fuel line !! Only other suggestion is to swap some of the electrical parts again - no guarentee that they were 100% again just to illiminate.
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Aug 16, 2012 13:47:13 GMT
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dave, have you run it off a jerry can / line to isolate the tank and lines??
*visions of stealthstylz sitting on the passenger seat with a jerry can, and a hose out of the open window*
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Aug 16, 2012 14:22:11 GMT
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dave, have you run it off a jerry can / line to isolate the tank and lines?? *visions of stealthstylz sitting on the passenger seat with a jerry can, and a hose out of the open window* First job this evening. I'm trying to organise stuff whilst still sat at my desk... I'm going to get a roll of rubber fuel line and bypass the stock steel one for now. That'll be one less thing to rule out. Its going to be fine, Ive got until dinnertime tomorrow.
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Aug 16, 2012 14:37:17 GMT
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is the fuel pump on a relay ?
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Aug 16, 2012 14:44:19 GMT
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is the fuel pump on a relay ? Nah, mechanical, bolted on the side of the block...
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Aug 16, 2012 14:51:32 GMT
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Sudden thought: Are the lifters on these engines mechanical or hydraulic? If mechanical have you checked the clearances? - if they are tight that can cause massive lack-of-go when hot.
Otherwise fuel lines/pickup sounds likely.
Best of luck!
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mk14dr
Yorkshire and The Humber
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Aug 16, 2012 14:59:40 GMT
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Hmmm, not sure. I'dve thought them to be hydraulic, Ive not seen any spec for adjusting them. Also, I think my assumption that it only happens when its hot was a red herring, it did it not 1mile from home this morning whilst it was still cold. If its something in the tank it may just take aslong as it takes to be disturbed/churned up in the tank and block the pickup.
I don't know, I'm grasping at straws.
Ive got a roll of fuel hose so when I drop the tank for a gander inside I'll be putting on a 'temp' fuel line to bypass the stock steel one.
If all this doesn't work I can only assume its fuck1ng haunted.
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Aug 16, 2012 15:03:38 GMT
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Having done a quick google it appears to be hydraulic.
I've had a similar experience which turned out to be a little flake of dried out fuel blocking the needle jet in the carb - until I found that I could have sworn the car was haunted. That exact case is unlikely, but if the new fuel feed doesn't help a little attention to detail along the fuel system might help.
BTW, is the fuel filter before or after the fuel pump? If after, it's possible that grit is getting into the valves and holding them open - had that one too.
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