speedy88
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I've got £100 to spend on a new drill. Be nice to get something that will last a few years.
I don't think I want anything cordless, my dad has a nice powerful hitachi that has lasted about 20 years.
What do you guys use and what would you recommend?
It will be used for metal fabricating as well as being used with polishing wheels for making rims shiny.
Ta muchly in advance.
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speedy88
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Ah, forgot to add that keyless chucks are no good to me, I don't fancy spinning every drill bit I have.
I'm also open to the option of cordless if anyone thinks it is worth going for.
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speedy88
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Ok cool, in my head it was between Hitachi and Dewalt, the only downside is that I'd heard complaints about their cordless stuff but that doesn't really apply here. Dewalt are also slightly cheaper.
Any objections?
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Dewalt isn't as good as it used to be as they seem to be aiming more at the DIY end of the market now.
Bosch Blue (professional) tools are good, we've used one of the green (hobby ones) for 20+ years. However for the money the cheap £30 titan things screwfix sell are good value, I used one to spin core drills for 2 years before finally breaking the final drive shaft in the gearbox.
Hitachi are good also Panasonic (probably too dear) if you can find one.
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dewalt? seriously? buy this. there is nothing better on the market for this kind of money- www.diy.com/nav/fix/power-tools/drilling-screwdriving/drilling/cordless/Makita-8391DWPE-18V-Combi-Drill-2-Batteries-10798552ive had one for 5 years, and thats 5 years of hard, constant use in a metal fabrication workshop- if it can drive 2.5" holecutters through 6mm steel, it can do anything. finally killed the motor last week due to it constantly being full of metal filings. went online and bought a new one for £18 delivered. i fully expect it to do another 5 years once its fitted. I'm off to buy another one today though before the special offer runs out, at they're 150-170 quid normally, and i need a drill asap and cant wait for the motor to turn up! i really wouldnt ever consider buying another drill, ever. ive not had one thats lasted even half as long as my one of these has. |
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May 21, 2012 12:28:11 GMT
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"no battery drills, no keyless chucks"
i have used DeWalts for ages, never had a problem with em, we have had the current one for about 10 years, still goin well, Dad uses it for work and now i usually pinch it to drill holes, cut holes, use wire wheels etc etc general abuse and it still fine
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Last Edit: May 21, 2012 12:54:54 GMT by Copey
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May 21, 2012 13:35:24 GMT
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"no battery drills, no keyless chucks" I have used DeWalts for ages, never had a problem with em, we have had the current one for about 10 years Have a feel at the new equivalent Dewalt model - they don't feel anything like the same quality. I've nothing against Dewalt i've got loads of their tools old though, i've still got ELU stuff from before Dewalt became black and decker. |
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Copey
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May 21, 2012 13:54:09 GMT
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guess nobody makes anythin like the used to!
we actually have a Bosch drill thats nearly as old as me (i am 23) and thats still goin strong
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Last Edit: May 21, 2012 13:54:27 GMT by Copey
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May 21, 2012 15:23:31 GMT
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+2 for the Makita. Mine is superb. It's the 18v 3.0ah. A bit more expensive but lasts for a seriously long time on one charge. I was using it constantly for two days drilling spot welds and it only needed charging half way through the second day. Probably a good 5-7hours of drilling when you minus faffing, tea & food breaks.
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May 21, 2012 15:55:28 GMT
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Brother in law is foreman of a big hardwood window manufacturing company and says Dewalt quality has dropped in recent years so has fallen out of favour with their firm. Now Panasonic and Hitachi are the favourite among the shop floor workers but Makita has the best track record for all round reliability. Out in "the field" virtually all the fitters use Makita.
Good enough for me so "put my money where my mouth is" and bought Makita - now wouldn't consider anything else as so impressed with quality, power, battery life etc.
Paul H
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May 21, 2012 16:08:20 GMT
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May 21, 2012 17:55:48 GMT
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I recently had to replace both my old corded B+D and Toolstation special 24v cordless as both died with a week of each other.
I did a fair bit of investigation and was a knat's whisker away from buying a Wickes Professional (5yr money back warrantee, metal keyless chuck, 24v) when Screwfix had an offer on a Hitachi, reduced from £200 to £100. I'm mightly impressed with it, and especially how light the lithium batteries are. The only strange thing is the battery characterists - instead of getting slower and slower as the battery runs out, it works at full speed and then suddenly stops! The first time it happened I thought the battery had failed!
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speedy88
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May 21, 2012 18:37:03 GMT
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Ok great, thanks all. I'll go to some hardware shops and see if they have any demos, I've got 3 in mind now. Get a look/feel for them and then get it cheap somewhere. Kinda leaning towards Makita now seeing as it has the most thumbs up from here.
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May 21, 2012 18:41:06 GMT
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Screwfix had an offer on a Hitachi, reduced from £200 to £100. I'm mightly impressed with it, and especially how light the lithium batteries are. The only strange thing is the battery characterists - instead of getting slower and slower as the battery runs out, it works at full speed and then suddenly stops! The first time it happened I thought the battery had failed! Thats how all lithium batteries work, basically if you let them fully discharge like you would a NiCd or NiMH then they are knackered so they have a little device built into the drill or battery to cut them off if the voltage drops below a certain level. |
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May 21, 2012 19:14:23 GMT
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Makita from me to.
Nothing really to add.
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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May 21, 2012 21:23:32 GMT
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[quoteDewalt quality has dropped in recent years[/quote]
I worked in the factory for a while after they moved to Czech Republic (2002/3) and personally wont ever buy Dewalt or B&D power tools as I witnessed some very poor quality going through their lines.
I'm sure most of the early problems will have been addressed but I still have my doubts.
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May 21, 2012 21:34:17 GMT
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The one that Dez linked to is one of those ones that bounces up to full price and the down to 'special' offer £90-100 depending on number of batteries or accessories with it with both B&Q and Screwfix. I ended up going for a Hitachi combi 18v Li-On and it's also fantastic for your £100 though it's cheap because they're only 1.5AH batteries (2 of them). Not that it helps you if you want a corded drill with a keyed chuck... |
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Last Edit: May 21, 2012 22:41:43 GMT by ben711200
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May 21, 2012 22:05:44 GMT
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I worked self employed as a structural glazer for ten year and cordless drill drivers are you bread and butter in that trade so I'd rather buy a used Makita over any new brand all day long..............
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I second the Makita, just cant knock them, DeWalt are a load of toss...
That said, my latest one is an 18v combi AEG and it's flipping brilliant, loads of power well balanced and has done everything my old makita did for almost 3 years (pro workshop use) and shows no signs of letting up yet, I'd certainly buy another..
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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