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Jul 16, 2012 21:40:24 GMT
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. Time for an update on th slow progress :-( Been trying out different wheels to check clearance. On an Escort the rear track is wider than the front, but the opposite on a Cossie., so the front arches need to be widened/flared more than the rears. I managed to borrow a set of Escort cossie wheels and a defo no no, An ET25 is way to low for a 8J, so I managed to borrow a set of 8J 18's ET40 with 205/35/18's. The rears a perfect, at full drope they stick a few mm, but on the floor with 4 of my mates sat in the back and without the inner lip of the arch removed and almost the full tire up in the arch there was a good 5-10mm gap :-) so 8 or 8.5J ET37 - 40 with a 215 tires is looking good at the rear :-) As for the front's, the same wheel sticks out 12mm past the 10mm flared arch, so I got a set of front arches of another car and will be widening the front to at least 25mm from standard (if I can), plus i'm gonna fit adjustable top mounts and TCA's to narrow the track about 5mm both sides. Any way a few pics. ( please ignore the curse word wheels, shocking I know :-) )           Spare arches  Also since fitting the rear crossmember/diff hanger mounting point it became obvious that i'd mounted it about 10mm to low in the car, So after cutting the centre section back out and temp welding it back in 20mm higher it was a lot better. So, out came the grinder and the crossmember was completely removed, As was the centere section of the boot floor, the removed floor section is now going to be rasied up to the height of the new crossmember. The mounting face for the diff hanger is now 20mm higher than it was originally, but I do have a 5mm spacer if it's to high. New crossmember fabricated out of 100x60x3mm box section and welded back in. few pics         new diff hanger   And the boot floor  Hoping to get the axle back on this week with the rear end on wheels so I can look at the exhaust with the bumper fitted. Got to make a minor mod to the rear strut tops as the top cup of the coilover is touching it :-( Nothing dramatic though ;-) And a selection of part's i've been buying           Got a few more bit's on order :-) More updates sooner, I hope ;-) Ginger . |
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Last Edit: Jul 16, 2012 21:41:05 GMT by gingexr2t
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bstardchild
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Jul 16, 2012 22:06:01 GMT
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.Any way a few pics. ( please ignore the curse word wheels, shocking I know :-) ) Damn right - how on earth did you end up with them |
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Jul 18, 2012 18:13:45 GMT
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.Any way a few pics. ( please ignore the curse word wheels, shocking I know :-) ) Damn right - how on earth did you end up with them Shockers ain't they ;D ;D ;D Only a loan set for a size trial. Ginger |
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Jul 25, 2012 17:05:07 GMT
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Bit of info/update regarding the legality and roadworthness of the car when it is finshed.
Basically it's fine :-)
I was working in a VOSA depot today and got talking to one of the inspectors and mentioned my project car and asked his opinion on what the legal requirements were and did it need any other tests or checks before an MOT.
Was told no, only test it needs is an MOT. I asked about sva's, iva's etc and was told that these are for kit cars that are basically new/never been registered or are imported.
Told the guy exactly what i had done and wether or not he would be happy to MOT the car and replied as long as it is a safe, road worthy and stuctually sound build and the cars identity can be verified then yes he would :-)
Just thought i'd share this :-)
Ginger
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RobinJI
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Jul 26, 2012 19:01:56 GMT
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I'm sorry but he was wrong. It's been clarified time and again that if a monocoque chassis is modified then it looses its identity. That's what the legislation says, and that's what lots of people have experienced. This country's complete inability to manage its own ridiculous bureaucracy is the reason why so many people are confused or misinformed over this topic, that VOSA employee was just one of these many people. It's a DVLA issue, not a VOSA one, as it's the cars registration being questioned not it's safety or roadworthiness.
Love the car, and I hope you don't meet any of the more informed staff, which it appears is a rare occurrence from most peoples experiences. Good luck with it anyway, I'll be watching the build for sure, it looks like it'll be a dam fun car when it's done!
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Sven
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Jul 26, 2012 21:41:36 GMT
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Really? If the gas cap key doesn't match the ignition a well engineered car like this fails BIVA or whatever? BIVA/VOSA/DVLA, etc? Makes me wonder how you're not all broke with the taxes paying for the tyranny and why you chaps keep those gub'ment buggers around.
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1969 Chevrolet 4x4 C10 Pickup
1969 VW extended cab pickup (doka)
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teaboy
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Jul 27, 2012 19:55:03 GMT
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Really? If the gas cap key doesn't match the ignition a well engineered car like this fails BIVA or whatever? BIVA/VOSA/DVLA, etc? Makes me wonder how you're not all broke with the taxes paying for the tyranny and why you chaps keep those gub'ment buggers around. At least we are still allowed to mess about with our cars, some European countries do not allow you to change anything.  |
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froggy
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Jul 27, 2012 20:22:29 GMT
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insure the car properly and get it mot,d job done . anyone who voluntarily goes through the iva with a car that has an identity needs therapy unless the car is going to command the sort of money that would make a buyer demand that all the paperwork is tip top although i don't see many mk1/2 escorts with turreted /4 link rears being sold with a fresh iva certificate ??..
5 "o" don't have a clue about this sort of thing so the only worry is a vosa stop check ,as long as your engine year is pre sva they would struggle to prove the work wasnt carried out years ago
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bstardchild
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Jul 27, 2012 23:03:26 GMT
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Do we have to turn this thread into another IVA BVA thread - it's been done too many times to great threads as well and ruined them
STFU and let the thread run
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Indeedy.....
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"No............I think I'll stick with the Maxi"
Arther Daley
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bstardchild
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Well someone needed to say it!! |
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Jul 29, 2012 14:49:02 GMT
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. Cheers guys, I do have another update but i'll try and wait til it goes to page 3 as there are a lot of pics Ginger . Ooo page 3 pics from the UK, I like those.  |
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Jul 29, 2012 16:03:33 GMT
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Really? If the gas cap key doesn't match the ignition a well engineered car like this fails BIVA or whatever? BIVA/VOSA/DVLA, etc? Makes me wonder how you're not all broke with the taxes paying for the tyranny and why you chaps keep those gub'ment buggers around. I had no idea that a petrol cap has to share the same key that turns the ignition to pass an MOT. What about when you buy a replacement cap that comes with a different set of keys? My car has a replacement cap as the original lock had it, does this mean i will fail next time around? It did say it meets MOT standards... Anyway, this is a fine build, only just spotted it today. Will keep an eye on for the progress! |
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Nope only when having it inspected the first time, think you can get round it by having a locking flap, but that wouldn't help in this occasion, or my mk1, as to insuring it properly? Yeah good luck, any claim you make on this, your goosed. Five 0 as its rightly been put has no clue, but dvla did a sting here in wrexham a few months ago on the boy racers, no one drove away, all cars were conviscated, as their insurance was invalid, everything from not declaring tht they had fitted a larger engine, to not declaring their 20" wheels.
now I'm no kill joy, but one day when dvla walk round a modified classic show, with a clip board, and a couple weeks later the owners are invited to have thier vehicles inspected, ill be the smug git who's been told time and again I can't compare my escort to one that's been fitted with a tunnel/turrets or 5 link kit.......
basicly, modify the monocoupe shell, and drive around like biva doesn't concern you, then you get what you deserve
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"No............I think I'll stick with the Maxi"
Arther Daley
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Sept 5, 2012 20:38:49 GMT
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. Bit of an update, Been a bit slow over the last few weeks but i've had a few days off work so got a load of little "i'll sort that out another day" things finished off, Spent a whole day wire brushing and sand blasting the rear turrets inside and out and a few sections under the boot floor corners and got them in red oxide, Also managed to modify the rear axle hoop that goes over the top of the diff to make it lower, plus i've fabricated a new floor section that goes under the rear bench to cver the big whole i had there. Some pics       At this point the only fabrication work left is the to flare the front arches even wider and the boot floor panel, The boot floor can't be done until i sort out the exhaust, plus it'll be easier with the big hole there, plus when it is done i can measure uo for a one off fuel tank. The floor is going to be raised up for more space underneath. So the only way to sort the exhaust was fit the engine, didn't realise it had been in my parents garage for 7 years :-) After a good clean (wasn't cleaned before storage)    After moving the car sideways in the garage and fitting the running gear back on it was in      And start fitting the exhaust and manifold    With that all fitted the bonnet was back on to check everything cleared and theres about 25mm above the cam belt an15-20 above the FPR. The only issue i had was the inner skin of the bonnet just touching the strut top mounting discs. I new this anyway so marked up where they touched and got my hole cutters out and....   problem solved. gonna get the car up on stands and blocks today and make a start on the exhaust as i'm gonna need to order a bit of pipeing So the 1st engine fit up is done so i can OFFICALLY say i have an S2 Escort RS Turbo YB Cosworth :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Dropped the prop off to South Wales Propshafts in Newport last Friday to have it shortened, had a call yesterday to say it's ready, hoping to collect it tomorrow :-) Ginger . |
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stocky
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Sept 6, 2012 10:21:18 GMT
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awesome work! the rear floor/chassis area is propper neat looking too will be a mega car once finished!
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Sept 6, 2012 22:49:21 GMT
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. Another update:-) Now with the wheel base and the over all lenght of a Sierra being longer than a Mk4 Escort i need to shorten the exhaust in 2 places, plus the rear silencer is oval being taller than the width, so wouldn't fit under the rear chassis rail, so the pipe work was cut off and turn 90' and welded back on so it's now wider than tall. And after modifying the hanger on the box and drilling the chassis rail for a new hanger it sit's like this     The other part (the wheel base part) needed a bit of a think as there is a silencer in there, I thought about just removing it but don't want it to load, also looked at getting a 16" x 5" silencer but would be very close to the prop, so to save about £50 i decided to cut and shorten the silencer, which was a lot easier than i thought :-) :-)           And the end product  The section that runs under the diff is curse word from hitting the floor so i'm waiting on a metre of 3" tube, should be here tomorrow hopefully so i can get that sort over the weekend. Also got myself a Burton quick shift from a member on here (many thanks) :-)   Was a bit bored earlier so desided to fit it to see how much it shortens the throw, answer 25mm :-) was 105mm 3rd to 4th, now it's 80mm. Propshaft before i dropped it off   One shortened and rebalanced prop.    Been debating the rear RS valance so tried it on the car, still not sure :-(    And i tried the rear arch a wheel on for a look  I made a template for a while back for an air blower cover, so now the motor is in i checked it fitted and cleared the back of the engine and cam cover,    Fit's perfect, so i need to decide on aluminium or mild steel, if i make it from steel i can make it myself, it's got to be a 2 piece cover as it's a nightmare to get in and out in one piece. Cheers for looking, and thanks for all the comments :-) Ginger . |
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Sept 13, 2012 21:38:18 GMT
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. Been cracking on with things, the exhaust i have had a really bad flat spot where it runs past/under the diff, I will in the future have a new system from the down pipe back so the part that was damaged i've replaced, so i bought 1m of tubing and made a new section, it will be fine for now :-)    I had to turn the silencer 90' as it wouldn't fit under the chassis rail    I've mentioned before that i'll be using the complete Sierra loom, Part of the reason is the fact that i really don't like the Escort indicator/wiper stalks, So by using the Sierra loom i can get rid of them and use the Cossie ones. Now i know most people just cut and shut the Escort and Sierra rack but i'll be using the complete Sierra rack. So after a few mock up's etc i removed this washer thing  Which ment that the alloy mounting bracket would now bolt to the Escort bulk head fixing, This also pushed the end that goes throught the bulk head further into the engine bay  This can be cut down later The steering wheel now sits the same distance from the bulkhead as in a standard Escort   But, because the Sierra is wider than an Escort the seats a further apart, plus the seats are mounted further off the floor than in an Escort so the wheel is a bit to low and to far to the centre of the car.  You can see the steering wheel bolt in this pic in through the gap in the seat and how far to the left it is   So after a bit of a think i removed the Escort bulk head mount and redrilled the holes 10mm low so that it'll bolt up higher in the car,( The spanner is acting like a spacer :-) )  This moved the wheel up to a nice hight (simular angle pics) Before After  Plenty of room between the pedals to move it across about 20mm  You can see how far off the centre of the seat the wheel is here   No big drama, i'll modify the other end of the mount tomorrow :-) :-) :-) Tried the Sierra clocks for a look (these are coil pack clocks, which i will be running when i sort the coilpack conversion)  The Sierra cowling will need extending, but that's no big issue. This is the standard Escort centre consol  Because it flares out to the passenger side the bottom of the dash doesn't sit central over the tunnel   Nothing i can do about that, so i'll have to live with it  Fitted the fuse box in just for a look, I love how neat it all fits :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)   Gonna crack on with the rack mounting tomorrow. Thanks for looking Ginger . |
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reliantreviver
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Sept 13, 2012 22:09:40 GMT
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Wow, absolutely nuts project, and so very well executed! Some beautiful welding as well sir Dare I say it might have been easier to have dropped an escort shell onto one of these....  Ford running gear all neatly packaged with double wishbone fronts as a bonus! |
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Reliant "750" Super Robin, Scimitar SS1s - 2 x 1300, 1 x 1600, 1 x 1800ti. 76 years off the road between them!
Also - Mitsubishi Galant Sport and Hyundai Coupe Gen3
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Sept 13, 2012 23:17:49 GMT
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This project just gets better and better
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