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Aug 11, 2012 20:27:41 GMT
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Yeah... those speaker holes are very tempting. The parcel shelf vinyl isn't in great condition so chopping it about a bit is an option. I'm thinking two ovals and a central bass speaker would be the way to go, with some decent rounds in the front door cards... but what to go with? Ideas welcome. The boot needs more scrubbing, but I'm waiting until I get carpetting fitted because I'm using the car so it doesn't stay clean enough to warrant more cleaning yet. ____ On my way home Friday night I got a bottle of Redex from the local Autosupplies place (where I still get trade discount), I wish I had my camera with me because I parked next to a GMC or Chevy Mystery Machine which sounded pretty awesome when it rumbled away. I was going to get some Wellseal for the rocker cover, but they hadn't got any in stock and I didn't have a massive amount of funds on me so it can wait for now. As a little aside, I'm not good with wasps, but like spiders. I was delighted to find this aborted wasp nest, courtesy of my resident garage spiders Back to car things... because of the way the carb is designed, we had to use a squirty bottle to get the Redex into the carb rather than pouring it in from the bottle. I've not used Redex before, but my brother has so he was in charge of the red stuff so I didn't waste any by being a noob. At first, not much was happening, but as we put more in the smoke started to appear. Eventually, we had some lovely thick black clouds of smoke combining with the bluish stuff and everything stank of Redex and whatever it had cleaned out of the engine. About half a bottle went in the carb out of necessity, the rest being put into the petrol tank. The difference in pick-up afterwards was noticeable and the running on seems to have gone away, time and use will tell on that particular score. That was going to be it for today, I hadn't planned to get stuck in on anything until tomorrow really, but my brother looked around and saw that he could improve my cooling and set about dismantling the front of the car and hoiking the radiator out. More signs of bodgery were evident with the overspray on the radiator. The noise I'd been hearing from the fan might not have been the bearings, when we removed it we got a better look at the blades. Either the shroud has become misshapen or something odd is going on here because there's a big gap one side and no gap the other and it's clearly been like this for a while. Looking at illustrations in the book, it looks like this is the original fan too, small and feeble though it is. From left to right, I have a Rover K series fan, a Lexus LS400 fan and now the original Princess fan. After checking measurements for which would fit best we went with the Rover item which is nearly new and known to be good. Some brackets had to be fabricated to hold the new fan in its housing on the Princess radiator. Eventually, I hope to get these brackets remade neatly in stainless steel or similar. We also had to notch the plastic shroud to make the bolt holes line up, but that was a quick job. Once fitted, the overhang was to the bottom of the radiator so it didn't foul the bonnet. One of the original hose clips was a bit worn out, so the only expense for this job turned out to be a shiny new jubilee clip. Before final fit, the wiring was checked and the fan checked. Once happy all was present and correct, the radiator with new fan was dropped back in, wired up properly and the car fired up. Happily, the fan kicked in as normal and went off again when the engine was cooled, much faster than the original could manage. The gap between engine and radiator is now filled with fan and cooling is much improved. Best of all, it doesn't look bodgey and will look even smarter when new brackets are fabricated and I've finished updating and tidying the engine bay. After having done this job, it does remind me that I'd like to find a way to fit the distributor in a different place, ideally on the end of the block above the gearbox where there's all that lovely space. I need to do some research to find out if this is at all feasible as I imagine it would improve damp starts as the distributor would no longer be in the way of the moisture. We shall see.
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Aug 12, 2012 13:51:51 GMT
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I wish I had a brother that was of any use.
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Currently: 1974 Beetle - Golf -
Previously: e38 735i, e34 525iSE, 1972 Beetle, 1991 Scirocco Scala, Morris Minor, 1983 Polo Breadvan, 1991 Mazda MX6
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Aug 14, 2012 11:56:37 GMT
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Wow. Just sat and read this from the beginning, always been quite partial to a wedge.
Great work.
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bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member
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Aug 14, 2012 12:15:21 GMT
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After having done this job, it does remind me that I'd like to find a way to fit the distributor in a different place, ideally on the end of the block above the gearbox where there's all that lovely space. I need to do some research to find out if this is at all feasible as I imagine it would improve damp starts as the distributor would no longer be in the way of the moisture. We shall see. That's what pink/blue rubber gloves are for - four fingers for each spark plug lead and on for the king lead Alternatively a neat solution is to make up an aluminium splash guard in front of the distributor ;D
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jonw
Part of things
Can open a Mouse with a File
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Aug 14, 2012 14:42:21 GMT
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As BT says.... the good ole' marigold dizzy cover. Works a treat.
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Suzuki SV650R The good Triumph T20 The Bad BMW G650GS The Ugly Matchless G12CSR The Smokey Toyota Hybrid One pint or Two?
Ingredients of this post Spam Drunken Rambling of author Bad spelling Drunken ramblings of inner voices Occasional pointless comments Vile beef trimming they won't even use in stock cubes
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Aug 14, 2012 14:58:46 GMT
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Ignore all of this nonsense advice. Make up an optical sensor, rig it up to an ignition amplifier and a wasted-spark twin coil ignition system. Marigolds my picture of Father Jack.
(Actually, yes gloves. But it was all getting too sensible).
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bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member
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Aug 14, 2012 16:08:29 GMT
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Ignore all of this nonsense advice. Make up an optical sensor, rig it up to an ignition amplifier and a wasted-spark twin coil ignition system. Marigolds my picture of Father Jack. (Actually, yes gloves. But it was all getting too sensible). ;D - I like simple
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Aug 16, 2012 19:00:59 GMT
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Thanks for the comments chaps I'm actually waiting to see what happens with the fan in the new place as it does block off a lot of stuff and when I went over to the Motornutz meet recently with the wet roads and damp, post-rain air I didn't have the usual issue with damp starting. Until I know the problem is still there, I'll hold off on the marigolds and other, fancier solutions ____ It's nice when I have little to report on the Princess, it means things are running well. I've got some electric front windows and a new (to me) light cluster on their way to me to resolve a couple of issues. In addition to that, in preparation for the Retro Night run by Motornutz I thought I'd try and resolve that oil leak I've had for a while. Turns out the cause wasn't the rocker cover (hooray!) but was a tiny bit of the spacer-gasket on the new fuel pump so I removed it, resealed it with red hylomar and off we went. Unfortunately, a bit further down the road I was pouring oil and smoke out of the same place but worse than ever so I had to wait for Mike and my brother to catch up with the Triumph because they had the hylomar and tools I needed to resolve things. Fast bodge of applying a good blob of hylomar and the leak was stopped enough to get me to the show and back without drama. It gave me an opportunity to take some truly depressing pictures by the closed down Coalite plant while I was at it, waiting for rescue. Happily, today I removed the pump, applied new paper gaskets, more hylomar and the leak is now resolved completely and I'm burning no oil at all. Fingers crossed this holds properly. The fault lay with the sealant I'd used before not being up to the task and being broken down over time by the combination of oil and heat, which is a problem I shouldn't have with the hylomar. Had a word with the guys at Autosupplies who also do paint mixing and found out that yes, I can get metallic beige paint if I really want to. Also got them to have a look at the paint that keeps blistering up on the rear passenger door and was given the verdict that it looks like the paint has 'solvent pop' which is caused when paint is applied too thickly and too fast. The rest of the paint doesn't seem to suffer from this apart from a spot on the front wing on the same side, but it looks like in the short term I need to strip the paint back as far as possible and then put fresh top coat on until I've saved up for a respray. At the moment, I'm thinking I'll either go with a metallic beige (proper Champagne Beige that way) or the Leyland metallic green that I like on the Princess. I've also considered purple... I'm not sure yet, but I think that I'm likely going to go for a respray next year and just do my best to look after the bad paint on the car to keep the rust bugs at bay.
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retrolegends
Club Retro Rides Member
Winging it.....Since 1971.
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Aug 16, 2012 19:31:59 GMT
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Metallic Green sounds good,used to be common on Allegros as I remember.
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1974 Hillman Avenger 1500DL1992 Volvo 240SE1975 Datsun Cherry 100a flying custard1965 Hillman SuperMinx Rock N Roller1974 Austin Allegrat Mk1 1.3SDL1980 Austin Allegro Mk3 1.3L1982 Austin Allegro Mk3 on banded steels2003 Saab 9-3 Convertible 220bhp TurboNutter1966 Morris Minor 1000 (Doris) 2019 Abarth 595C Turismo (not retro but awesome fun) www.facebook.com/DatsunCherry100a
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Had a word with the guys at Autosupplies who also do paint mixing and found out that yes, I can get metallic beige paint if I really want to. Back in my day, that shade was known as "gold". Metallic beige sounds good though, especially with a pearl lacquer. --Phil
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Aug 18, 2012 18:52:21 GMT
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I'm not in the finest of moods this evening and it's not just because of my twisted/sprained/otherwise fubarred knee (I swear, my body is actually made of cornflakes) but because of my parents' neighbour. Today, I went to visit the folks to drop some stuff off and get Dad to decypher the electric window motors I bagged recently and to put the working light cluster on I had also baggified. Was out in the back garden nattering with Dad and heard the neighbour come back, shortly followed by a horrible thud and the sight of the Princess lurching down the drive. Suffice to say, I used some choice language. The neighbour was mortified and I was so furious I was just shouting all manner of horrible things, Mum cooled it all down by taking me indoors with the promise of a cup of tea, and it worked. A little later when I'd cooled down and stopped stomping about we actually discussed things like rational people and decided both cars could be repaired for less than the cost of excess on the insurance and that the neighbour would pay. Had my parents' neighbour been a knob, a gentleman's agreement would not have been reached, but he's actually a really decent fellah and knows precisely how much the Princess means to me, and has even helped with repairs and fettling. I cooled down a lot when I realised it was me being the , not him, and that it was a bit unfair of me. So, what happened? Well, I'd parked in a different place to usual leaving enough space for him to get his Corsa B down the drive without having to get me to move the car. I have this knack of blocking him in or out when I visit my parents as the drive is a shared entrance. Unfortunately, he was paying so much attention to the side that his wife's garden was that he didn't realise how close he was to the Princess until much too late. The drive is on an incline until you get to the bottom, which, combined with the weight of my car, meant she moved a lot more than the low speed of the impact would normally create. He can't have been going more than a single figure speed, I doubt it even registered on his clocks. First thing to do was check my boot opened and closed okay, which it did. Next, have a look at what damage has actually been caused. Inside, it's no worse really than when I reversed into the house that time, bumping the other side. The light cluster on his Corsa was smashed by the swage line on the Princess, his bumper leaving a black mark further down the corner. My bumper has bent his rear valance and broken the trim clips for his bumper and arch trim and possibly bent his floor pan. I also broke one of his bulbs. Difficult to photograph, but this side gained a large shallow dent which, after I'd assessed everything, popped out almost completely with the slightest lean of the hand. When I get the bumper off this should pop out completely with relative ease. It's given me some work to do. Yes, I could book it in at a body shop but I think it would be cheaper and more useful if I get a set of dollies and repair it myself. One should always see an adversity as an opportunity if at all possible, and getting some useful tools out of an accident would be a favourable option for me. This is not going to be an easy repair, it's a very complicated area of the car in terms of curves so it's likely I'll have to use a little bit of filler to get things really smooth here. I have done a similar sized repair with some bits of shaped wood and a ball peen hammer years ago on a Ford Sierra, I'll have to see if I can remember how I went about it when I tackle it. It wasn't a complete wash out today, Dad managed to help me decypher the electric window motors so we know how to plumb those in. Unfortunately, one of the switches is broken so I'll be taking that apart to see if I can fix it. We couldn't test the motors, but I have no reason to believe they won't work. The dodgy light cluster has been replaced and now my lights work properly, though I do need to clean it up and swap the good lenses over. Tomorrow, I'll make a start making this corner weatherproof at least, a lot of the paint has flaked off and when I tried to remove the loose bit of pinstripe tape, it lifted most of the run and some of the crappy respray so I now have a decidedly patchwork thing going on. Got to look worse before it looks better I suppose, now just to decide what colour I'll go with.
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Aug 18, 2012 20:21:14 GMT
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Gutted for you! At least everyone's being sensible about it all and you're not having to go through all the insurance nonsense. What was the Corsa like?
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Aug 18, 2012 21:02:53 GMT
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The Corsa got a broken light cluster, broken clips for arch trim and bumper, bent valance and possibly a bent boot floor. I think I got off fairly lightly really.
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Aug 18, 2012 21:31:05 GMT
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That doesn't surprise me. Bloody hate Corsas!
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Aug 18, 2012 21:35:23 GMT
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As do I. After having driving lessons in various types, I redubbed them the Coarser.
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fogey
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Aug 18, 2012 21:38:30 GMT
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Been watching this thread/car with interest - fully understand how you feel. The biggest headache will probably be getting the repair painted properly - do hope you get it sorted without too much pain.
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kilroy
Part of things
Suit you sir...
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Hey fellah. Sorry about the prang - always a blow to the solar-plexus. I follow your thread with interest because I own O series Morris Marinas - so many of your trials under the bonnet are the same as mine. Anyways - just wanted to alert you to the fact that the fuel pumps are a perennial source of leaks because they distort with age - and sealing them against the head is virtually impossible. I have tried to face the joint surface by filing the pump housing, but never been totally successful. I managed to accumulate several new pumps, and that has been the answer. Well - I do have 9 cars... Good luck with repairs. I always console myself in the knowledge that whatever goes wrong - it can be made even better next time.! Cheers.
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Aug 19, 2012 10:16:30 GMT
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That's worth knowing about the pump, I didn't know they could do that. At the moment, it's sealed fine and I think the main cause of the leak was me using an inferior sealant, the red hylomar seems to have done the trick very nicely. Of course, now the car isn't always making a burning oil smell it's making me aware of all kinds of other smells she's producing, none of which seem to be anything other than normal.
You might find it of interest that the new fan also seems to have cured my damp starting/running problems.
Not made a start on the panel work yet, I keep looking at it and remembering how awkward it is to get the bumper on and off on your own...
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Aug 19, 2012 18:23:20 GMT
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Sometimes, what starts out as something unpleasant ends up being something useful. This incident with me being reversed into is one of those things, as much as I was (and still am a bit, if I'm honest) annoyed about it, being bumped has actually done me a bit of a favour. I'll explain why in a bit, but for now here's what I've been up to today. I was hoping to get the car back in one piece and painted, but there simply wasn't the time so I'm provisionally off work tomorrow if the agency (or anyone else) calls so that I can get this finished. I'm nothing if not impatient when it comes to fixing things at times, and the same is definitely true of the dents on the Princess. Having a look around the place I found a wooden handled scrubbing brush that I usually use for cleaning tyres which had the right profiles to use as an impromptu dolly/drift. It was narrow enough to allow access to the worst of the dent, and a suitable curve to match the corner of the car. It was also wide enough to serve as a suitable flat surface for the larger shallower dents so that I didn't end up going all Arts and Crafts on the bodywork. Initially, the dents were easy to get out to the rough shape required, the time consuming part of the job was fine tuning to eliminate use of filler as much as possible. I don't think I did too badly. A lot of the paint had already cracked, knocking the dents out only cracked it more so I knew I'd have to strip a lot off to repair this corner. I set to work with the paintstripper and while it worked I peeled off the brown vinyl stripes on the sides. A couple of applications of paint stripper, scraper and wire brush were needed to clear a large enough area to get the dented bits back to bare metal, this too was time consuming. What I found lurking under the paint was a large patch of flash rusting. I wonder if this is down to the bad respray which is lifting off all over the car? It could also be down to poor previous prep work. I also found some very pink filler in the back corner, something I've learned usually means someone has done a fast bodge repair and used excessive hardener just to get the job out faster. Thankfully, the metal is solid overall and I've not found any further cause for concern yet. All stripped back, I wiped the panel down to clear any residue of paint stripper off and let it dry. Found I prefer the car without the brown stripes, so I worked around it and removed the rest. Also found more problem areas, like this paint lifting under the driver's door handle which appears to be applied directly over road dirt. And this area on the other rear wing where the paint lifted off like wallpaper with the vinyl tape. For a brief, horrifying moment I thought the paint would come off in one complete sheet on this corner. I also found more blistering on this side of the car and I have just given up hoping to salvage this respray, it's appalling. Last job for the day I managed was to get the bumper brackets from this... ...to this, with the help of a hammer. Now that this paint is buggered it does give me an opportunity to change things a little more to my own taste. Don't get me wrong, I like the beige, it's very suitable for the car, but given the opportunity to personalise something I generally always will. This leads me to what options were available to me and I found myself coming back again and again to this sort of thing. British Leyland did two purples I like which were Aconite and Black Tulip, the latter is too dark but the former should be perfect for the Princess, especially with the brown interior. The Princess was a dynamic, interesting and unusual car so I never really understood why people had them painted in such dull, conformist and boring colours. For tonight I've applied Kurust to the bare metal and tomorrow I'll set to with sandpaper and filler properly before adding paint to get things watertight and depending on the cost, I'll either patch in with beige as a temporary measure, or try out the purple to see if it looks as good in person as it does in my head.
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Aug 20, 2012 20:10:58 GMT
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Today I got the two samples of paint mixed up, one for Aconite and one for Black Tulip which I got in cellulose brush-on as it'll be easier for me to work with at the moment. The samples are really just so I can make a decision on colour, I'll take some snaps of the paint when I've got it on the car. I have decided one thing; Fenwicks of York garage have a lot to answer for if they are indeed the ones responsible for the 'restoration' work on this car. Everywhere I look there's more bodgery and it's just starting to annoy me a bit now. I'm expecting to have to spend the next five years or so putting right all the wrongs and sourcing little bits and pieces to bring her back up to something stunning again, it would take less if I were more of a cowboy. Anyway, what have I been doing today? Not a lot really, replacing the bumper has been held up as I didn't get chance to get the paint sorted and I've mislaid one of the bumper bolts so I've been driving around without a back bumper lately much to my own amusement. I prized off the wheel arch trim, in part to clean it but also so I can properly prepare this panel for new paint. I wasn't expecting it to be so easy, or the old fixings to turn to orange powder. Worryingly, what little paint was under the chrome wasn't really attached to anything. The chrome itself came off with minimal distortion and will get fully cleaned as I'd like to reinstate it, but I'm curious what the gooey stuff inside the trim is, it has the appearance and texture of glazing putty and seems to have done an excellent job of doing naff all. The arch underneath is a bit dusty and rusty, but quite solid. I'll get the wire brush on it and the Kurust afterwards, on the whole it looks salvageable. There's also a funny little plastic stone-chip preventer which was hiding something I didn't want it to. So I reckon there's going to be a hole where the arch meets the sill at the front and another hole at the trailing edge of the arch that's been hidden with pounds of filler. Tomorrow I'm making a start on stripping all the paint off this wing and treating all the rust. I might get chance to do some filling work on the dents that remain and possibly make a start on primer work. I know I could just patch up the dented bit, but what's the point in that when I know there's other damage to rectify here? Whether or not I get to point I'm trying out Aconite and Black Tulip remains to be seen, but pictures will be provided, obviously. I'm daunted and excited in equal measure at the prospect of sorting this quarter out, it's not what I planned to have to do on this car and is much more involved than I'd like for a daily driver.
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