CIH
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I fancy one, ideally petrol as I'm not keen on derv, as I've never had an estate and TBH just fancy one. They also appear to be slap bang at the bottom of their value curve. Has anyone "done" one ? I wouldn't do anything special, probably just rims and a mild lows. Also if anyone familiar with them could point out any specifics to look for that would be handy ta.
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Last Edit: Feb 1, 2012 21:55:20 GMT by CIH
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only thing i know of i common pug fault of rear suspension rotting? or is it just the mounts,i remember a mate had one that went there but other than that it were fine ;D Lovely comfy seats too lol
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1984 Subaru GLF Hatch 1983 Skoda 120LE Super estelle 1977 Subaru DL Wagon 1978 Datsun 120Y Coupe 1995 Skoda favorit estate
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I'll just leave this here* *I know it's a 605, and a re-post
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" East bound and down, loaded up and truckin' "
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CIH
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So we've all agreed it's a good idea.
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I'd actively encourage getting the diesel version, they seem to be completely bulletproof, not prone to rust and easy to live with. The petrol ones don't seem as reliable and the noise of the diesel engined versions is, for me, part of their charm as a do-anything motor.
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Brian Damaged
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Pug 405 Estate ?Brian Damaged
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You're right, they are one SERIOUS bargain right now.
They do suffer from creaky, seized rear beams a la 205/309/306 and associated Citroens...but that's easy enough to spot.
Knock out front suspension drop links for fun, but that's an easy and cheap fix.
'Style' models are poverty-spec and there's WAY less to go wrong on the electrical front (remember, it's French....) but usually come in 1905 dizzler-flavour, whereas top of the range late 'Executive' 405's are VERY pleasant places to be.....most of which are 2-litre petrol powered.
Numbers for sale on Auto Trader etc are dwindling fast. Get one before they're all gone. ;D
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orangecords
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i ran one as a daily for years. j plate 1.6 petrol on 306 alloys. beleive it or not it handled a dream when given the beans round country lanes! only thing that ever went on it was one of the gear selector rods from the stick to the box wore out and fell off on the way to work one night because the nylon wore away. £2 fix!! the local pug breaker told me its not an overly common fault but happens occasionally
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I then wanted to start cleaning the interior as it stinks of wood (the material not the smell of a boner) best quote ever!
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405's don't have balljointed front droplinks, so any knocking will be an ARB bush or a balljoint rear beams are much hardier than the smaller vehicles, same beam as the partner/berlingo which do use larger torsion bars on certain examples, a good upgrade cheap there diesel 100%, unless you get an MI16 the other petrols are reliable enough, but not many about.
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will
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From this thread here
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CIH
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What do you guys mean the beams seize ? Are they torsion beam ? If so what is it that sticks ?
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Yeah, they are torsion bar setups. From experience on 106 and 205s, The rubber seals curse word up, letting water in to the needle bearings that allow the rear trailing arms to pivot. They won't usually sieze, but they go rusty and gritty, which wears the arm and bearings out. You end up with a lot of friction, and eventually loads of play in the rear wheels. You can usually spot a really shafted one, the back wheel will have some negative camber.
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Buy a nasty blown 1.8i 'break', then buy a salvage 406 v6, combine, and win.
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MrSpeedy
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I weighed in my mum's old 405 wagon last year. Couldn't even sell it for scrap money and there really wasn't a lot wrong with it 2.0 ltr petrol, quite sprightly for a big motor and my mum loved it, but I could never really get on with it. Rear calipers had a nasty habit of sticking. (I replaced 4 in the 10 years she had it)
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simes
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Here's some inspiration.... Dug this out recently for 205gtidrivers.com It's built by Gutmann 405 fitted with the Mi16 engine and full leather. Personaly I think it is full of win Spotted one once in Switzerland back in the early 90's.
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Simes
205Mi16 - 262 cams, Jenvey Throttle Bodies, Emerald managment blah blah...... E91 320D MSport Honda NC30 Vespa 300GTS
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SRi modles had the 1.9 205/309 GTI engine fitted which made it nicer, it had mi-16 looks with added comfort
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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added? naah, same seats phase 2 sri's were the 2.0 iron block engine, slightly less bhp with a cat but more torque. they weigh 1200 kilos at the most, 1100 or less for the properly boggo models. Torsion BAR not beam, still fully independent
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Back in the day when insurance wasn't quite as ridiculously expensive a mate turned up at my house in one of these having just passed his test - seemed a nice enough car, and his had all the options - as other have said there are hardly any left on autotrader now, and they're cheaper than chips - go for it I say (but I'd get a diesel - Peugeots are supposed to be diesel!)
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1993 Mercedes-Benz 190e LE in Azzuro Blue.
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CIH
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I drove a late Audi A4 today and it reminded me why I hate diesel. Absurd lag, I mean nothing untill 2k then BAM Powah! Far worse than my 89 Silvia, and it blatantly was boost restricted in 1st as it went nowhere untill shoved into second gear. Yeugh.
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