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Jan 25, 2013 20:44:11 GMT
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bad times in 16v camp. this last month or so of cold weather has bought new blisters up all over the car, literally every single panel is effected, even the bumpers, wing mirror and spoilers which are all abs plastic   its only been a year since the bodyshop rectified the previous blisters. I went back down to see the owner last month which I was crapping myself, because I don't like complaining and it seemed like a good will gesture they fixed it in 2012 (some 4 years after they painted it) anyway, he was quite good about it and has arranged to get it back in february, and for a guy from the paint manufacturer to come and have a look, work out why its doing it, how to eradicate it, and then go from there. most likely looking at a bare shell respray. so i've spent a few hours every morning stripping bits and bobs off the car. not really to save time or labour, just if a 22 year old bit of irreplaceable trim shatters into 1000 pieces i'd rather it were me to blame.            |
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Last Edit: Jan 26, 2013 11:35:16 GMT by darrenh
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Jan 27, 2013 21:55:27 GMT
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its enough fighting the rust monster on an 80's Vauxhall as it is without the paint getting in on the act and making life difficult! At least the painter are being good about it. Ive noticed it in a few places on my SRi since it was painted, leading edge of the bonnet being the main one.
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87 Mk2 Cavalier SRi Turbo
89 Mk3 Cavalier SRi V6
90 Cartlon GSi3000 24v (Lotus Rep)
90 Senator CD 24v
99 Omega 3.0 MV6
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Mar 21, 2013 13:41:07 GMT
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i rang the body-shop, huzzah ! GTE is in the corner under a sheet looking like an asda value dmc-12 (read as shiney metal), whole car has been taken back past their layer of paint, past primer, past underlying layer of paint. the disturbed filler has been re-applied (meaning the contouring of old arch repair) possibly get the car back next month. men in white coats from paint supplier blame micro blisters (water) in primer that bodyshop applied, as its pro-bono they are doing the work in quiet times. in other news i replaced the snapped record no.24 with another no.24 in this fetching shade of porsche riviera blue. not only that, but when i was up nans clearing out the old shed i found a record no.0, which is awesome! i love the scale look of it, will be perfect up the opposite end of the bench for intricate work.   |
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tony28
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Mar 22, 2013 19:07:42 GMT
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Good to here the paint work is getting sorted properly, any pics of it in it's current state?
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Mar 22, 2013 19:26:02 GMT
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no havent any pics, its a weird situation because most folk would be chomping at the bit, but i'm really enjoying it not being on the drive tbh!
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Jan 31, 2014 10:30:44 GMT
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almost a full year since i last updated, i finally got the GTE back from its re-re-re-re-respray. in the end an entire bare metal and baked 2K paint job. driveway now back up to full capacity, 3 mk2 astras, proof if ever it was needed that i have genuine mental health issues. some reassembly required, MOT and tax.  |
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qwerty
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Jan 31, 2014 10:49:18 GMT
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Fantastic work, big pain about the paint though!
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Nice Astra takes me back that.
Do you cover the car outside? I had exactly the same issue with my Mini. My spray man told me it happened because I was covering it. I have since had it resprayed and it is now under a car port and the paint finish has been fine.
The cover i was using was a proper tailored "breathable" cover.
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Jul 26, 2014 17:18:42 GMT
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i wont bore you with the details but 2 weeks after i got the car back in january the bonnet started bubbling again. FFS. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH i got the repainted bonnet back in June after they sent it to the international space station for NASA to respray it in zero G to see if it makes a difference. this is a random shot next to project OAP merit after i refitted it. purely for kicks and "look how much lower they are compared to base models"  since then i've been having a crisis of conscience, its been months and i've not done anything "astra". Theres no kids, no house moves, no dying relatives, no horrific relationships, no jobs loss, i have free time, all the parts, the tools but i still cannot be bothered to get out and do anything. i put it down to the fact this silver GTE has been a bit of a millstone regards the paint work. where i should be waste deep in track day GTE i have this AND track day gte in a state of disrepair. the garage is literally rammed with boxes and boxes of parts, trays of screws, bits of trim, panels, two interiors, exhausts, to the point i cant actually physically work in there. as far as i was concerned this car was "finished" in 2008 when it had the first body restoration, ever since then its been dragging down the moral. so with that in mind the only logical thing to do is forget about trackday gte, crack on rebuilding silver gte so i can file it away and get rid of one car from my mind. The first fly in that ointment is i would have to take it appart even more to make the best job of it. i've been putting off a dashboard swap for a couple years, to the point of considering getting my one repaired in situ. this is the problem, it has had two massive gouges in the front of the dash from 2 or 3 owners ago.  and this is the state of play with the car right now which is another reason for the lack of motivation. the roof lining is still out as i never finished it, still got no bumpers and half an interior from when i took it apart for the respray. i also noticed the body shop have lost one of my clear side repeater lenses and the rubber seal which hacked me off   so its nudging 28 outside, blazing sun directly over head, perfect weather for scrabbling around in the footwells of stuffy hatchback all day :yuck: after a few hours and half a blue roll mopping my brow, i got to this stage. i was panicking i would have to take the steering column out but as it happened the dash slides over the top of the worst of it. did have to pop the steering wheel off though.  then i layed out the dash next to the replacement, for good measure i also got the one from track day gte. my "new" dash (middle) is from a base model so the obvious difference it has no hole for the check control. also noticed on the 1991 silver gte dash it has an extra metal bracing below the steering column, i will swap that over because it looks a good idea, its only riveted on. i thought it had been hacked out at first, but then noticed my 88 gte dash hasnt got it either so must be an afterthought late in production. the other annoying thing is the the replacement dash (middle) is falling apart, you can see the inner carcass has peeled away from the dash top.  i was hoping to chop out the hole for the check control and get it refitted today, instead have to do the remedial work, bond the dash back together and swap that plate over  |
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Last Edit: Jul 26, 2014 17:23:24 GMT by darrenh
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Jul 27, 2014 18:22:35 GMT
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this morning i transferred the strengthening plate over. the clamps you can see are me fixing a few of the mushy screw holes, i found soaking all the frilly hardboard in super glue and squashing it in the jaws of the clamps sorted it out. poor mans GRP.  then i traced out the 'ole for the check control. no.10 scalpel went through it like butter (scarily)    stupid picture alert, i even spot focused on the foreground before taking it. anyway, it was to illustrate i had to make the hole for the steering column slightly larger, this is a small nuance due to tilt-able steering column needing more wiggle room  another little touch was to add a strip of self adhesive velcro (the fluffy side) to the dash ends. this is where the A pillar trims slide behind and it drives me wild all the creaks and clicks and squeaks where they rub together  now back to the car, its true you learn something every day. if you are removing the dash you only need to remove one nut in the scuttle...  not any of these 4 which all hold the steering column and surrounding bracketry on  while in the depths of the dashboard i found a random bundle of cut wires all taped up. traced it back and found random old immobiliser !  sounds serious ! always satisfying removing old unused wiring  getting into the meat of it here  and almost fully reassembled, i've kept the heater control/stereo console back as i want to GRP one of the fixing tabs back on (one hidden by the glove box, always seems to snap off). all in all i am pleased with it, a bonus its allot more "black" than the one i took out. the only negative is that area round the fuse box is complete mush, only just about holding its weight. the same area on my old dash is rock solid and sharp  i think i will invest in a few more bottles of cheapo super glue and press/bond it back to a nice edge again.  |
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Apr 27, 2015 17:34:41 GMT
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today i thought i would run a wire wheel over that vertical lip/join in the rear valance as i had noticed a bit of swelling there (i.e rust between the layers of where the panels join) it came up bright, bit rusty, but seemed salvageable without mechanical intervention.  then i started chasing rust along the flange, round under the lower corner to the rear of the wheel arch. again it went through the rust and came up bright. then the wheel caught the lip of the seam sealer as it turned abruptly into the wheel arch. the fairly large lump of seam sealer seemed loose, like come unstuck from the metal (seemed odd as this stuff is usually sh-t on a blanket). i started pulling at the loose seam sealer, it came away slightly, then a bit more, and then carried on right round the inside of the entire wheel arch like unfurling a garden hose reel or a roll of sellotape  i carried on pulling till it reached the front of the wheel arch, where again large lump came away from the metal   then i crouched down and looked along the sill.  at some point over the winter someone has stolen my GTE, found a completely rusted fuckng turd of a car which looks similar and appears to be mimicking last julys post bodyshop state of disrepair, then swapped it in place of my car which i thought was "all right" and just needed a bit of finishing ? genuine question, but whats it gonna take to actually keep rust at bay? |
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andyw
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Apr 27, 2015 22:04:29 GMT
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Bad luck on the rust returning.
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Apr 30, 2015 13:43:21 GMT
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just in time for the bank holiday (so i've got something to look at in the spare room while rain trickles down the windows) sills are zinc plated which is neat. rear arches are for the merit by the way, second crack at that whip, do it properly  |
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Speedle
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Apr 30, 2015 15:19:51 GMT
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That'll help keep it at bay. Tbh once metal rusts even when you remove it all (all think you have) it somehow finds away to return.... it's the bane of owning a car in this part of the world it seems... cut it out and replace is the only way to win that war in my experience.
As for your paint bubbling ongoing issues, there's only one cause for that in my eyes and that's poor prep...
Still keep at it chap so nice to see a GTE on the roads these are becoming so rare these days.
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Apr 30, 2015 20:59:02 GMT
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As above. Keep at this...been a long time since I've seen a GTE on the road.
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Apr 30, 2015 21:32:20 GMT
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When you get it back from paint do you cover it up? i.e tarpaulin or car cover?
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Apr 30, 2015 22:15:39 GMT
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thanks for the comments  ive been on the verge of phoning scrap yard more than once for this car. dunno why but this time its curse word me off more than it has depressed me. how many left suggests there are 500 gte16v left (total of taxed and sorn) which is mental if you ask me. i've got a mint 3 door shell i could use, but its just the provenance thing of being a genuine 16v really. the shell is different to the rest and they were made in germany rather than cheshire hamps it was left outdoors every time, not covered, not even washed come to that |
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Last Edit: Apr 30, 2015 22:23:25 GMT by darrenh
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Apr 30, 2015 22:30:04 GMT
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For keeping rust away I tried several things, the most effective so far being a good coat of this;  That is just Homebase cheapo stuff but it's really worked on the Metro which, I am ashamed to say, has been outside, uncovered with loads of repairs protected with just a coat of that stuff and they are all fine. Zinc coating and paint will also be effective for a time although be careful welding with it, I wasn't initially aware of this but have been warned by a weldor at work when exposed to the sorts of temperatures seen in welding it forms really dangerous gases that do bad things to lungs. Best of luck! James |
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envoycdx
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Apr 30, 2015 22:37:57 GMT
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just in time for the bank holiday (so i've got something to look at in the spare room while rain trickles down the windows) sills are zinc plated which is neat. rear arches are for the merit by the way, second crack at that whip, do it properly Cracking progress |
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Apr 30, 2015 23:33:25 GMT
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yeah, careful welding on those zinc panels as it's nasty stuff to inhale. but that rust on the sills looks awful for only a few months?!? Maybe try some Bilt hamber hydrate 80, seems to get good reviews, and it can be sprayed/brushed.
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i think i will invest in a few more bottles of cheapo super glue and press/bond it back to a nice edge again.
ive been on the verge of phoning scrap yard more than once for this car. dunno why but this time its curse word me off more than it has depressed me. how many left suggests there are 500 gte16v left (total of taxed and sorn) which is mental if you ask me. i've got a mint 3 door shell i could use, but its just the provenance thing of being a genuine 16v really. the shell is different to the rest and they were made in germany rather than cheshire
