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plasticfantastic Part of things Posts: 294	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....plasticfantastic @plasticfantastic
	Jan 26, 2014 17:23:19 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi all, A bit of an update from the last two days of cutting and grinding. I have been sanding areas by hand where the da cant get too, mostly around the side and rear windows, getting everything back to gelcoat. I have sanded the roof down with the da and 40 grit, it looks good in the picture but has bad star crack, i will leave it for now untill i flip the shell and add some bonding to the inside of the roof as its very thin. I have cut out and cleaned up witht the die grinder the little shelves inside the rear side windows, these are there because the car started life as a convertable and the roof was added afer. With these gone i can re-bond everthing much more neatly later. I also cut the front of the pedal tray away as it makes the front end much neater. To add the strength back i will build a steel tube frame that will triangulate the front suspension top mounts with eachother and with the lower wishbone steering rack mount. Comments appreciated. Cheers.


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plasticfantastic Part of things Posts: 294	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....plasticfantastic @plasticfantastic
	Jan 27, 2014 19:56:05 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi all, Here is another picture dump from todays progress. I started this morning by deciding to dive right into the drivers side sill, i cut the top open to remove the foam and spent the next couple of hours hacking away at wet foam again. With that job over and another couple of kg's of wet foam removed, i decided the get busy with the airsaw to rectify some of the problems around the door shut. Luckily a few years ago i managed to pic up a pair of sides cut from a later model mk6. The door surround is much neater on this molding,along with the door being much easier to hang. Fitting this molding also means i now have a return around the door opening that i can fit a door seal too, being a race car before it didnt have these. I'll let the pictures do the talking.... Comments appreciated Cheers


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mdh Posted a lot Posts: 3,865	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....mdh @mdh
	Jan 27, 2014 20:30:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Are you gonna re-foam the sills? Adds a lot of rigidity apparently.
	Koos

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plasticfantastic Part of things Posts: 294	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....plasticfantastic @plasticfantastic
	Jan 27, 2014 20:32:03 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Yes i will, I'll do them when i fit the new fuel tanks and foam them in too. Cheers


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luckygti Posted a lot I need to try harder! Posts: 4,912	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....luckygti @luckygti
	Jan 27, 2014 22:38:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	You sir have balls of steel!! That is some epic cutting and chopping, I'd forget how it all went together! Such a great looking car, always loved the shape. Looking forward to 2018
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maybachman South East Posts: 232	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....maybachman @maybachman
	Jan 28, 2014 11:39:17 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Did you do alot of Airfix when you were younger?? Used to watch you on Madmechanics with the F40. book marked..you are a star!!!
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spartacus Part of things Posts: 256	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....spartacus @spartacus
	Jan 28, 2014 18:58:49 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	In most other cases if I saw that amount of fibreglass being cut away I would say the car will never live again. Having seen the work on the F40 though I have complete confidence. What gives you the motivation, is it the fibreglass fumes? Keep it up, awesome job.


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plasticfantastic Part of things Posts: 294	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....plasticfantastic @plasticfantastic
	Jan 28, 2014 19:52:55 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thanks guys i really appreciate all the comments! I'm really after some brutally honest opinions from you all now. With the hope of an aircooled engine going in the back of the Davrian i know i will need more air flow through the backend. So with a little cutting and shutting today something started to emerge. The cover was a last minute addition as my hands started to turn blue, it got alittle cold in the workshop. What do you all think?! Cheers


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ettorebugatti Posted a lot Posts: 3,417	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....ettorebugatti @ettorebugatti
	Jan 28, 2014 20:25:51 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Does look all right to me. Proportions are good. Maybe an idea for the cover would be to mirror the line/ shape of the rear side window.
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luckygti Posted a lot I need to try harder! Posts: 4,912	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....luckygti @luckygti
	Jan 28, 2014 20:42:47 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Yep, think that definitely works. Might be easier to visualise if it was all one colour though
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mdh Posted a lot Posts: 3,865	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....mdh @mdh
	Jan 28, 2014 20:46:10 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Def not my style, sorry mate. Why do you think you need more air for an aircooled? Which are cooled are you thinking of? A Beetle doesn't have big holes in the side, it pulls in through the deck lid and blows it out the bottom. How about a later style -
	Koos

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plasticfantastic Part of things Posts: 294	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....plasticfantastic @plasticfantastic
	Jan 28, 2014 20:52:05 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Really appreciating the feedback guys, For the duct over the top I'm thinking of hand beating aluminium sheet into shape to keep the early race car vibe. I think i might need more air because I'm planning on fitting a harley davidson v twin, my head keeps telling me it will need it?! I also think the whole shape and of the car will benefit, if i can get it right! Keep it comming guys, I'm still in 2 minds! Cheers


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mdh Posted a lot Posts: 3,865	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....mdh @mdh
	Jan 28, 2014 21:10:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Harley D lump? Interesting! Would that be mid mount or rear? Inline or transverse? Would its cart-horse style suit the Davrian? I have a ZX10 motor to go in my MK5, and I was thinking of transverse mid mounting it. It would mean removing the rear bulk head, but Mini powered ones had that from the factory. The seat backs need thickening up to become the bulkhead.
	Koos

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plasticfantastic Part of things Posts: 294	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....plasticfantastic @plasticfantastic
	Jan 28, 2014 21:25:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I'm thinking of rear mounting it to the imp transaxle or beetle if thats not possible. A standard HD Evo motor is about 70hp (rev to around 6k) and 100hp isnt that hard or expensive, plus after building custom HD's in Oz i just love the noise. I'm building a road car not a race car, my friend plans to take his zx1100 out and insert a zzr1400 with a supercharger into his 420kg mk8! I'm pretty sure there will be a bit more to it than thickening up the seat backs, the bulkhead will want redesigning and building back in, is carries the stress of the suspension. Cheers
	Last Edit: Jan 28, 2014 21:27:15 GMT by plasticfantastic

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mdh Posted a lot Posts: 3,865	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....mdh @mdh
	Jan 28, 2014 22:47:29 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	You wouldn't mount t to a diff with a reverse box in between? I'd thought of using a Harley motor in a three wheeler I bought plans for, although I wanted to supercharge it too. Sure there's more work required in the bulkhead, but I'm way too lazy to type it all out! ?
	Koos

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plasticfantastic Part of things Posts: 294	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....plasticfantastic @plasticfantastic
	Jan 28, 2014 22:53:39 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I don't plan to use the harley box because it will start to get a little complicated because its not a single unit like most bike set ups, plus it should keep the cost down massivley without the cost of the reverse box. Just got to mount a clutch onto the output of the hd motor and mount it with a cradle to the bellhousing. I'm not after big figures out of it, around 100bhp will be nice, have played a little with a few drag HD's with turbos and superchargers. I get were your coming from with lazyness in typing, i find it easier to cut and paste fiberglass than on the pc! Cheers


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jpsmit Posted a lot Posts: 1,274	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....jpsmit @jpsmit
	Jan 29, 2014 5:11:28 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I am loving this so much! In terms of the vent hole, I thnk it need to be oval or even teardrop shaped otherwise, even with the cover it will look like an afterthought with a hole cutter. In terms of the HD motor -- obviously to each there own but I can't help but feel the sound will be wrong - never mind it shaking the car apart. To my mind you want it to sound more Avengers than The Wild One if you know what I mean. Even a Corvair engine would sound right and look right. Or an X19 Fiat or even an MR2 lump?


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sonus Europe Posts: 1,392	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....sonus @sonus
	Jan 29, 2014 6:42:36 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	With the cover it looks good, but without the transition into the "tube" is too abrupt imo. For the cover either mirror the rear window up side down or look at the cover for the modern Ford GT.
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smeden Part of things "Full throttle until you see God,then shift to second" Posts: 356	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....smeden @smeden
	Jan 29, 2014 9:09:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I'm with Jpsmith on this.. Oval hole! I think the HD engine is nice on the Morgan Trike but wrong for your car! It needs something light but rev happy. How about a Honda engine? Or use the driveline from a MGF.. Anyway MAD skills :-) Keep up the good Work!
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mdh Posted a lot Posts: 3,865	Plasticfantastic's project corner, Back on the F40.....mdh @mdh
	Jan 29, 2014 13:31:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jan 28, 2014 22:53:39 GMT plasticfantastic said: I don't plan to use the harley box because it will start to get a little complicated because its not a single unit like most bike set ups, plus it should keep the cost down massivley without the cost of the reverse box. Just got to mount a clutch onto the output of the hd motor and mount it with a cradle to the bellhousing. I'm not after big figures out of it, around 100bhp will be nice, have played a little with a few drag HD's with turbos and superchargers. I get were your coming from with lazyness in typing, i find it easier to cut and paste fiberglass than on the pc! Cheers 100 horses makes a quick Davrian, you should have decent torque too, just need to get the gearing right. Looking at the Morgan three wheeler, it has roughly the same power and weight and hits 60 in 8 seconds, probably because its grip limited which the Davrian won't be.... I need to get my fingers off the bloody iPad and into the fibreglass again!
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