damask
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Nov 30, 2011 13:05:38 GMT
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Ok, so near me, there is a hyundai coupe which has been sat in the local garage/pub carpark for around 2 weeks, with a steering wheel lock on. Now i plan on asking around as to who's it is and whats happening with it, but its not in the best of shape paint-wise, and something just tells me its been left there.... So what are the laws on this? is there anything like 'find-ius keep-ius' that would allow someone to claim the vehicle after a certain amount of time (if i cannot locate the owner, of course) Or is it just condemned to be impounded and crushed? Many thanks guys
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bailey
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Nov 30, 2011 13:08:28 GMT
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i think you can apply for a log book for it then the dvla contact the previous keep and se if they still want it and if they have no contact in i think 10 days (it might be 30 days) they issue you a new log book. there is alot of info on the net about it
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damask
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Nov 30, 2011 13:13:10 GMT
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I'll do a better search and ask around for the owner... if its still there in another week then ill start the process.... cant do any harm, right?
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damask
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Nov 30, 2011 13:15:42 GMT
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after another look... its probably an accent (i thought it was an older coupe, I'm not down on hyundais much...)
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Nov 30, 2011 13:21:02 GMT
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This has been covered many times on forums, once in particular on PassionFord. A guy found an abandoned Escort Cosworth (!?!?) and applied for the log book, which he got and then he took the car. As far as I remember he got to keep it. For some reason I can't get at the thread, it may have been removed as it caused a lot of argument. Anyway, even if you get the log book, it has recently changed to state this: ...which seems quite clear. What isn't clear is how you prove ownership without some form of receipt.
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I've got Rovers.
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bailey
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Nov 30, 2011 13:24:53 GMT
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i have always thought this since i heard/seen the new log books its a load of cods whollop if you ask me
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Nov 30, 2011 13:25:00 GMT
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If, hypothetically, I was hit by a bus and found myself in a coma for a year, or was wrongly imprisoned for some horrible crime and later pardoned, I'd be furious to return home and find some swine had claimed my car as his own.
Just sayin'.
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Nov 30, 2011 13:26:03 GMT
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There are various previous threads about this. Avoid like plague. It belongs to somebody. There might be a reason why it's parked there. I doubt anyone would abandon a car and then put a steering wheel lock on ! It's up to the land owner to take any action as necessary to get it removed and not anyone else. Sorry but you can't just spot a car parked up and assume it's not wanted. Maybe after 6 months that could be the case but not two weeks Paul H
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damask
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Nov 30, 2011 13:26:42 GMT
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hummm, i always thought that you sign the v5 over and thats your proof... so what are they doing now then? I don't want to be getting it back on the road, only to have someone take it back along with any money i've invested in it... I know it seams quite cheap to be looking into just taking a car thats been left, but it must have been left for a reason... more snooping is needed i believe!
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j4mes
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Nov 30, 2011 13:28:32 GMT
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Simple: The car is not yours, unless you legitimately purchase it. Leave it well alone.
Not to mention how would you gain access and then remove the steering lock without doing anything illegal!
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MrSpeedy
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Nov 30, 2011 13:30:54 GMT
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Possesion of a log book does NOT prove ownership of the vehicle. You cannot just apply for a V5 and take the vehicle. That is THEFT !!
Been covered on here many times. If you can't find the owner, leave it alone or you may end up in a whole pile of sh1t.
IBTL
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Nov 30, 2011 13:31:37 GMT
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hummm, I always thought that you sign the v5 over and thats your proof... so what are they doing now then? I don't want to be getting it back on the road, only to have someone take it back along with any money i've invested in it... I know it seams quite cheap to be looking into just taking a car thats been left, but it must have been left for a reason... more snooping is needed I believe! You can contact the owner after paying DVLA for their contact information and them make them an offer to buy. Seeing they could get £150 at any scrap yard I doubt they will give it away though.
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damask
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Nov 30, 2011 13:34:46 GMT
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Depending on the state of the car, i wouldnt mind paying the owner scrap value for it, i don't understand why they would leave it somewhere rather than scrap it anyway though? i doubt its stolen because of the steering lock. don't worry, i don't intend on doing anything illegal, or just taking it as my own, but i would like to get in touch with the owner and find out more
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Nov 30, 2011 13:38:44 GMT
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Damask, can I assume that if you were away on holiday for a fortnight, I could claim any car you owned as mine because I think they look abandoned? Beacause they haven't moved for two weeks? You'd be OK with that would you?
Next time I go on holiday for a week or so, maybe you'd like my house?
Think about it. Does it sound at all legal??
(oh...and reported seeing as no one else has)
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Nov 30, 2011 13:45:36 GMT
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What if the cars have been sat there for years??? like old barn finds??? theres a few around near me that have literally not been touched in about 5 years and they're just rotting.
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Nov 30, 2011 13:52:24 GMT
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What if the cars have been sat there for years??? like old barn finds??? theres a few around near me that have literally not been touched in about 5 years and they're just rotting. Same rules apply - they aren't free to the first person who wants them. You need to trace owner and buy or get their agreement that you can have them. If you can't trace owner then walk away as that still doesn't mean they don't belong to somebody. Paul H
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damask
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Nov 30, 2011 13:52:28 GMT
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Bruce, I'm afraid you may have taken me wrong. I don't claim on instantly trying to claim this car as my own, i wont be applying for the logbook but if i cant find out who owns it through asking around, ill contact the dvla for the owners information.
Your point is valid about going on holiday for two weeks... but would you leave it in a feul station carpark just off the A1 while you went away? i personally cant see any valid reason, or legal reason for that matter, that someone would leave their car there, unless they owned the car-park itself, or wanted rid. IF they did leave it there to dispose of it, or 'abandoned', then i would want to contact them and find out more about the vehicle itself, i have no intent on stealing it or claiming it as my own, only finding out who owns it and seeing if it would be possible to buy it from them, as opposed to seeing it collected by the council and scrapped?
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Nov 30, 2011 14:05:26 GMT
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Have you asked the owners of the place it's parked ? It might be a mate of theirs who has permission to leave it there for various reasons like holiday, lack of parking space at their home, and such. Could even be landlords etc own car. If a private car park then council can't touch without jumping though hoops first to get legal permission - eyesore, dangerous etc
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Nov 30, 2011 14:10:00 GMT
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2 weeks? lol.
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damask
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Nov 30, 2011 14:10:31 GMT
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ive asked the bloke who was on shift, but he wasnt much help as to who owns the car park or the car itself. there are three businesses sharing the car park, and i know the owner of one, so I'm going to give him a call and see if he knows anything. Decided I'm definately not going to try and claim it though, far too many horror stories, and as said, it could be there for a legitimate reason
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