Kedge
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Now i've started a thread on my touring I thought I really ought to start one on my proper project car (plus i'm bored on a night shift ) I picked this up a couple of years ago and it was meant to be a quick engine swap, respray and fit a Tech-1 bodykit. Well as we all know things never work out quite as initially planned, what with real life going on Here's a few pics of what it looked like on the day it was delivered to my Mum's as a povo spec 316. The main reason i'd chose this car was the fact it looked like it had very little rust and is a non sunroof car, for those that don't know E30s love to rot out their sunroof trays into the roof skin. The paintwork is good, unfortuneately nearly every panel has a good scratch or dent in it so a respray will be needed. One of the first things to do was remove the shonky blue comfort cloth interior and have a real good look for rust, always a scary few hours. Results; Drivers footwell (that brown splodge to the left of the clutch peddle has turned out to be a little hole so will be cut out at a later date. I assume it's from trapped moisture behind the sound deadening in the transmission tunnel); Throttle pedal mount, broke the pedal when I removed it like a knob, still not been able to get it out; Rear drivers side footwell; Passenger footwell; Rear passenger footwell; Rear passenger side inner arch; Rear drivers side inner arch; Boot/rear arches. Not even a hint of rust around the number plate lights 8) Eventually after things were looking too good to be true I found this lurking deep deep down in the sill on the passenger side between the rear arch and B pillar; Gave the engine bay a quick once over and removed the alarm siren and associated wiring from teh engine bay as well, only found a couple of little scabs of rust on the chassis rails that i'd already seen. Found a little bit of rust at the back of the battery tray as well which has actually gone through after further inspection so that will need chopping out. Yes that is as bad as it get for rust in the cabin, that bit in the sill and a scabby throttle pedal mount, happy days!!! Dash also came out since it was cracked, will give me better access for any wiring type jobs I need to do later as well. Bulkhead is all nice and solid to. Next job was to remove the wheezy M10 engine, probably the easiest engine i've every removed from a car. Was collected not long after by a chap to use in a boat
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Last Edit: Jun 29, 2012 18:51:59 GMT by Kedge
1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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Kedge
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Now with the majority of the strip down done she was ready for the engine. I had already got a donor car for this project before buying the 316, was a very rotten 4 door 325i with lots of new uprated parts. The previous owner was a bit bonkers and threw money at it despite its condition and then gave up after putting a jack threw the floor. Spec; Nice healthy M20B25 with a new cambelt BTB 6 branch manifold Scorpion exhaust B8 Bilsteins on the front and B6s on the rear on KW 35mm springs. Eibach ARBs Rogue Engineering top mounts, still in the bag Black Diamond drilled and grooved discs all round Black Diamond pads all round Black Diamond braided brake lines M-Tech 1 bodykit Decided that since I was going to be using the suspension a breaks from the donor car it would just drop the subframes and kit the engine from underneath. Engine bay bare & ready. Some of the goodies are just about visible in the pics below, was also plesantly surprised to find the it is also fitted with nice new eccentric control arm bushes to go along with everything else. Also turned out that it had a pretty new clutch to my suprise, still since i'd already bought one I still fitted it along with a lightened flywheel while the engine & gearbox were on the floor. Couple of pics of the car up in the air ready for the engine to be rolled under; Engine in and all bolted up, all that's left to do is attach the prop and sort the wiring, plumbing and fueling . Was a bit of a pain getting the subframe lined up with the chassis. Then we hit the first long lul in progress. Had move the car out of the garage which coincided with winter. I still hadn't got the engine fired up, was getting spark and fuel but would not go. Common census was that it was either the ECU or the flywheel pickup sensors. After having absolute nightmares trying to shift the sensors from the bellhousing I decided that i'd go down the route of upgrading the engine management from Motronic 1.1 to 1.3 and do away with those flywheel sensors. Also in amoungst the engine swap i'd fitted dechrome window trims, rare Startec smoked rear lights, genuine smoked Hella's some sexy Hartge wheels. The prop 325i prop was now on along with a 3.64 ratio LSD.
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Last Edit: Nov 17, 2011 22:31:11 GMT by Kedge
1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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Kedge
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Nov 17, 2011 22:49:40 GMT
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Next task was to remove the old engine loom and management system. Also took this oppurtunity to change all the gaskets, belts, refurbed injectors and water pipe for new, wasn't cheap but well worth it. Engine striped down to the head and block. Pretty much all back together and ready for a trial run to make sure it fires up. And then there was life...........................bit noisey mind with just the manifold on though.......... Started cracking on with a job i've really not been looking forward to, changing the tank since the old one won't be fitted with a swirl pot and i've been strongly advised i need one with the 2.5 to prevent fuel starvation. While the tank is out i took a few pics of the underneath, only signs of rust is on various mounting points, bar 2 scabs high on the transmission tunnel which i think should just sand down fine; Also braved removing the problomatic fuel breather pipe cover, was some surfice rust on and inside the cover but the inner wing is just fine, again just needs cleaning and some waxoyl on it maybe? Attempted a quick trial fit of a 63l tank from the 325i touring in my sig pic and quickly realised that it was going to be an impossibility with the rear beam still fitted and the brackets on the inner sill for an external fuel pump. So that then has then led me to the stage i'm currently going through, a complete rebuild of the rear end of the car and also the fitment of rear discs instead of the drum breaks.
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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Kedge
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Nov 24, 2011 21:06:01 GMT
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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zircon
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Nov 24, 2011 21:32:29 GMT
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Great work! Loved my old E30 banger!
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zircon
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Nov 24, 2011 21:32:45 GMT
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What interior are you going for?
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Last Edit: Nov 24, 2011 21:33:31 GMT by zircon
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Kedge
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Nov 24, 2011 21:41:40 GMT
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Thanks, I've got some Recaro LS's in houndstooth trim, the driver seat is badly chewed up but luckily i knew someone who was having his trimmed in leather so i bought his old houndstooth cloth for mine, also got all the panels to make a matching M3 rear bench However part of me wants to stick with blue since that is what was originally in this car (shame the carpet and doorcards are long gone ), blue leather maybe!?!?
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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zircon
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Nov 25, 2011 12:10:19 GMT
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Nah i reckon you did the right thing in replacing the blue. The engine is non original, as are the wheels and lights so if it were mine I would make it how you like. The houndstooth fabric is at least OEM and looks good.....
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Kedge
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Nov 25, 2011 20:21:03 GMT
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I was just thinking of going back to the blue to be a little different as so many E30s have pretty much the same interiors. I've kept the original lights and have a spare set to go all red with on the rear, also have some smoked Hellas for the front so i can swap and change
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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Kedge
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Nov 25, 2011 21:00:28 GMT
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Bit more progress, all the bits of flakey seam sealer and surfice rust has now been removed and primered up with some anti rust primer ready for fresh seam sealer, not been a fun job at all! Just a couple of pics, was far more patches though and the back of the spare wheel well was an bloody pain to get in at. Gave the primer a good 24hrs to go off and then got on with reapplying the seam sealer (forgot to take pics though), bit of a messy job so hopefully worth it, then shutz'd it the next day. It has since had another touching up to get the few bits i missed with the first tin. Once the shutz had had about a week to dry off everything got a good dosing of Waxoyl, need to do the box sections from inside the boot as well for maximum effect now; Tool of choice. Sample of crossmember box section done. Now all over is covered, 2l sunk into it so far, don't want to give rust anychance to set in. About ready to start bolting it all back together now. ;D
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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Mark
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Nov 25, 2011 22:02:55 GMT
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Excellent work fella. Oxblood leather would look awesome.
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E36 BMW 318is saloon (rare as a hens false tooth) VW Caddy Maxi 2010 (usually full of Labradors)
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Kedge
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Nov 25, 2011 23:38:13 GMT
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Excellent work fella. Oxblood leather would look awesome. Yea, that would look good, can't believe i hadn't considered any of the reds as i've always liked them. Only issues with either going blue or red is sourcing the carpet and doorcards. My 323 has a blue carpet but some throbber has cut it by the throttle cable to repair the floor
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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Mark
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Maybe dyed black would work? Personally I think red carpets always have a bit of a pink tinge to them anyway. The red leather does seem to command a price premium too. When I was looking for leather for my e30 the only set I found was £750 I think? I was lucky enough to find a newly upholstered set in black for £350 less. It transformed my M3's interior even if it has only got a regular rear seat.
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E36 BMW 318is saloon (rare as a hens false tooth) VW Caddy Maxi 2010 (usually full of Labradors)
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Nov 26, 2011 12:14:30 GMT
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looking good, love the look of an E30 with a spoilerless bootlid
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Kedge
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Nov 28, 2011 13:47:20 GMT
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Maybe dyed black would work? Personally I think red carpets always have a bit of a pink tinge to them anyway. The red leather does seem to command a price premium too. When I was looking for leather for my e30 the only set I found was £750 I think? I was lucky enough to find a newly upholstered set in black for £350 less. It transformed my M3's interior even if it has only got a regular rear seat. Whatever option i chose it will be a retrim since i have the Recaros, they are so much more comfortable than the sports seats. I reckon most the red carpets might be suffering with fading now, sure they could be redyed though to get the colour back. looking good, love the look of an E30 with a spoilerless bootlid They do look cleaner but i've got a spare bootlid should i fancy running a spoiler for a while.
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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Kedge
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Nov 30, 2011 16:15:16 GMT
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Now the body is all painted and Waxoyled it was time to sort out some parts to fit. I'd already treated myself to a new tank and painted it with Hammerite but i really wasn't happy, both with the look of it and then fact you barely had to look at it for the paint to chip off. I had a quick Google and sent out some e-mails and got some very satisfactory qoutes for some powdercoating, i think i may have got carried away! Then after admiring the parts in my livingroom for a few weeks it got round to bolting them to the car. First job to do was get the tank in, and my word what a pain of a job that was, since my car is a prefacelift model it has brakets on the inner sill for an external fuel pump and the larger 63l tanks really struggles to squeze past these, took a couple of hours to get in place, the odd swear word might have been uttered on occasions. Onto the beam and rear arms. I got the bushes and brak pipes fitted to the rear arms, though in this pic the inner bushes are the wrong way round so i had to take them out and swap round, good job i asked for advice on this beforehand. Had some standard bushes already instock so they were used in the rear beam, have some void fillers on order to stiffen these up and increase their lifetime. Also got the ARB, springs, brake lines, handbrake cables all fitted. Got a feeling i need to clip the handbrake cable to the arms, will double check the touring tomorrow to confirm that though. Here's how it's all looking now, diff in, Eibach ARBs mounted, Eirbach lowering springs in, thinner spring pads also used, Bilstein shocks and Rogue Engineering top mounts all fiited. Now just a case of rebuilding the brakes, and fitting the drivehafts and prop refurbed and fitted and it'll be back on all fours..................only to get turned round and the front get attacked. ;D
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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qwerty
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Nov 30, 2011 19:07:51 GMT
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Lovely work!
Are you keeping this for a long time wants its done? Looks like it'll be a very good un!
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Kedge
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Nov 30, 2011 22:18:31 GMT
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Yea it's very much a keeper but I guess everything has it's price
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1983 Mk1 Golf GTi Mars Red
1986 E30 316 Polaris Silver (M20B25 Project)
2013 Triumph Street Triple R
2005 Seat Leon TDi FR Grey
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Nov 30, 2011 22:55:56 GMT
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Cool, lovely engine, how far are you going with this?
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Nov 30, 2011 23:00:31 GMT
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Loving your work, wish my old E30 had been as clean as that!
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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