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Franken Wheelsbondy34
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Nov 13, 2011 15:29:31 GMT
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Good response but factory steels the centers are a pressing that sits inside the rim, the welds holding those rings would be under constant stress reversals in all directions. The welds on most factory steels aren't under alot off stress only during cornering. In industry any weld critical will be tested with an NDT process. When i band the wheels for my car they will be testing them and would expect anybody supplying wheels to the public to have some quality control procedure in place.
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Nov 13, 2011 15:32:50 GMT
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Stone the Crows, every Ones of those is pure win for me.
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Dez
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Franken WheelsDez
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Nov 13, 2011 16:03:44 GMT
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I was thinking that making something that cool might be right up your street Dez - alas I'm in no position to comision it. it has got me thinking thing is, I'm struggling to see a real-world application where id actually need to do it. split-rim sections are bloody expensive, and 99 times out of 100, banding the stock wheel would provide exactly the same function. aside from bragging rights, theres little practical reason to do it i can see.
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Franken WheelsDez
@dez
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Nov 13, 2011 16:09:24 GMT
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Good response but factory steels the centers are a pressing that sits inside the rim, the welds holding those rings would be under constant stress reversals in all directions. The welds on most factory steels aren't under alot off stress only during cornering. In industry any weld critical will be tested with an NDT process. When I band the wheels for my car they will be testing them and would expect anybody supplying wheels to the public to have some quality control procedure in place. they wouldnt be loaded any differently to a stock wheel centre. look at the pic of the back with them welded, they're still welded to the return on the edge of the centre section like stock. any machining done appears to only have been to square them up and give a good surface. one-off weld testing on banded steel? lol, youve gotta be joking! it would triple the cost of a set of wheels! if the welding is that bad that youd expect them to fail, youd be able to tell just by looking at them.
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Franken Wheelsbondy34
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Nov 13, 2011 16:24:05 GMT
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Different to the ford rims i pressed out the weekend, Tripple the cost of the wheels lol price up some cans of dipen or mpi kit, cheaper than a law case.
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Nov 13, 2011 20:38:13 GMT
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A 'not for road use / for show use only' disclaimer is cheaper still...
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Franken Wheelsbondy34
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Nov 13, 2011 20:55:50 GMT
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Thats a little callas! sorry I seem to have offended somebody but i think mods should sumat like
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Nov 13, 2011 20:59:34 GMT
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Faithless swine?
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Franken Wheelsbondy34
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Nov 13, 2011 21:04:15 GMT
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don't believe in faith, I like to know! Are personel attacks allowed on the forum.
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Nov 13, 2011 21:15:23 GMT
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ok so i can see someones turned the rim off an old steel wheel and they`re left with the center then they`ve welded a flame cut ring on it and drilled it, this i can do at work myself in our colchester lathe then drill it in the bench drill with the rounding table, but where did they get the shiny rim they`ve bolted it too. Is it a pressed steel chromed thing they`ve had made or did they make that too or is it an off the shelf item. If the rim is off the shelf thats thats awesome 3 hours work and the rims can fit any car.
I`ve been fancying getting some billets of aluminium and makin my own wheels for years now but i`ve never got round to it, I`d be limited with design though as i can only work manual machines. I think some slot mags wouldn`t be beyond my abilities though.
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Nov 13, 2011 21:18:07 GMT
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I've re-read the last few posts several times now and I'm not sure what is actually going on aside from good examples of how important spelling, grammar and punctuation can be when you need to make a point.
I don't want to make this about a person's inability to spell or use punctuation but in this case I am genuinely baffled by what is actually being said.
Let's leave the debate for now, eh Bondy?
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Nov 13, 2011 21:44:39 GMT
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All I see is cool wheels, lots of cool wheels!
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'55 Austin A30
'71 MGB GT
'72 Datsun 240 shed
'72 Mercedes 240D
'79 Firebird
'86 Austin Maestro Van
'91 Mercedes 250D
'91 BMW e34 535i Sport
'92 Mazda MX-5
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Nov 13, 2011 21:56:56 GMT
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He said 'callas', I knew he meant callous but made an Exorcist joke anyway.
I have no idea what the rest of that post said though...
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Nov 13, 2011 22:00:32 GMT
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Anyway, yes. Cool wheels.
As noted by Dez, bragging rights only...?
Remember the split rims Dimma had made for their widebody 205s? The ones that looked like GTI centres... I like that idea; a nod towards origins when a step up in width and diameter is required.
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Mike
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Nov 13, 2011 22:08:02 GMT
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MonzaPhil
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Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought
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Nov 13, 2011 22:18:46 GMT
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Thing is, it's such a simple idea. A really, really good idea.
Now, I have a set of rostyles and another set of 205/60/13s..................
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This is now a clicky linky!
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VIP
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Nov 13, 2011 22:24:25 GMT
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Bye Bondy, nice knowing you... :rolleyes:
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Nov 13, 2011 22:41:45 GMT
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its been done before in the 70's i have a set in my garage, i'll gt some pics & post them up!
there is a solution i can think of to get rid of the issue about having to weld on those flame cut rings but it would only be certain rims that could be used, so would limit the options a bit
anyhoo i'm off to manflu bed-i'll get pics my og oe wide steel split rims tomorrow-mine are in bits as i'm refurbing them at the mo
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Mini 998cc grp bonnet & boot, lightend shell, 6-point cage, soon to have a turbo on the 998 engine (t2 frm a r5gt) rs turbo intercooler, hoping to get 120ish bhp?
father is building a Mini Van 1330, 45 weber, 100bhp@wheels
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dw1603
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Different to the ford rims I pressed out the weekend, Tripple the cost of the wheels lol price up some cans of dipen or mpi kit, cheaper than a law case. Makes perfect sense to me. Dye penetrant is a recognised non destructive testing technique, as is Magnetic Particle Inspection. Maybe a bit over the top if you are capable of producing the kind of work Dez does, I admit, but if you intend selling them to Joe Public (or even other board members) then you really need to be thinking about product liability. A bit of crack testing is the least you should consider. I agree with bondy, any mods (particularly safety critical ones) should be summat like. That aside, he wasn't made particularly welcome was he? and his grammar is not the worst I've seen on here.
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Makes perfect sense to me. Thanks for the translation DW. I did Google ' Dipen' but the results didn't seem relevant. Could you do this one for me please: Thats a little callas! sorry I seem to have offended somebody but I think mods should sumat like The misspelling of callous was simple enough, but what about the next bit...who has he offended? What about the mods? I have plenty of understanding for people with different levels of skill in different areas (I bet he's better at welding than I am at grammar) but when it gets to the point that I've spent about twenty minutes trying to work out what is actually being said and I'm still none the wiser I don't think it's wrong to say something?
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