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Oh, btw, as asked in the txt, the two lighter coloured glulams are European White Wood (Spruce) and the darker one is a European Redwood, most likely pine.
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Nov 29, 2011 22:28:44 GMT
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Stopped by at Lewis's on the way home in the pouring rain tonight, he offered tea and hospitality, but all I could think of was that it had taken me 3 1/2 hours to get to Oxford this morning, in stead of the planned 2 and a bit hours..... so home it was. Thanks for all the wood, and also the section of Apple wood, which I am really excited about. 3 meter long lengths of Glulam, laminated beam offcut or samples. Perfect for table legs or in my case, bowl turning.  Apple and a small piece of "Top Secret" wood, to be kept for something special.  Remember the trees we cut down for the neighbour late September ? I kept a couple of bits to try turn some stuff from it. Wet and soft wood. Well, one of the things was a 4 ring captive ring set, the idea is that it becomes a single candle stick.  Left it in the airing cupboard the last 3 weeks after turning and tonight I popped it back onto the lathe to just sand it a bit further, no waxing yet.  And this is what all the fuss is about..... twin captive rings around a wine goblet stem.  Here is something a bit different, Nicola my wee Wombelette found these two items discarded at work.... I finished them off, squaring the bases, sanding them to an inch of their lives and then waxing them..... Spalted Pine I think, basically half rotten wood. No good for anything except ornamental use.  Lastly, the custom pistol grip gear knob I have been trying to make for Copey.... done. I have no idea if it is what he wants, but with about 3 hours work in it, lets hope he likes it. Again, shaped, sanded and worked to within an inch of its life, then waxed. Pound coin for perspective. Ohh, and yes, the top is at an angle so that you can rest your thumb on the top.  Right, bed time. Adios. |
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Nov 29, 2011 23:52:28 GMT
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love the wooden goblets with the rings!! very cool! also the gear knob looks crackin! looks a nice comfy shape! will definatly have that please  send me a PM with the paypal email and i will give you my address, thanks very much! Tom |
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Nov 30, 2011 16:04:47 GMT
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love the wooden goblets with the rings!! very cool! also the gear knob looks crackin! looks a nice comfy shape! will definatly have that please send me a PM with the paypal email and I will give you my address, thanks very much! Tom Hi Tom, even I am impressed with that 140 plus year old knob. Thanks for the paypal. Will try get it in the post by Saturday morning. |
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Nov 30, 2011 18:15:16 GMT
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its turned out great  thanks very much |
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Griss, know what you mean about working for minimum wage when you factor in the time, even when working with "Scrap" materials. I'm the same with the recycled material fetish toys I make, every one costs at least an hour, and usually 2 or 3, and I eventually get to sell it for £20-25 maybe 3 weeks later, and I have to make more than enough to sell. Luckily I've started doing more shows at weekend, so even though I have to factor in pitch costs, I've started to make something out of it. And I'm now an international entrepreneur with clients in Germany and Ireland Maybe you should look at local craft fairs once you get a few bits of stock together. At least you can make your money in a lump, rather than drips and drabs. I know how much redundancy can hurt. |
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my gear knob arrived this morning and i have to say! its cracking! flawless finish and its a really nice ergonomic shape!  i will need to mod my gearstick (because of the CA18DET the gearbox sits further forwards so i had to angle the stick back, what i plan to do is glue a rod into the knob and weld on a bar with an internal thread to screw onto the stick and get it sat at the right angle |
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Griss, know what you mean about working for minimum wage when you factor in the time, even when working with "Scrap" materials. I'm the same with the recycled material fetish toys I make, every one costs at least an hour, and usually 2 or 3, and I eventually get to sell it for £20-25 maybe 3 weeks later, and I have to make more than enough to sell. Luckily I've started doing more shows at weekend, so even though I have to factor in pitch costs, I've started to make something out of it. And I'm now an international entrepreneur with clients in Germany and Ireland Maybe you should look at local craft fairs once you get a few bits of stock together. At least you can make your money in a lump, rather than drips and drabs. I know how much redundancy can hurt. Intersting post this. You are right, people do not always get the bigger picture. As you say, "scrap" product when you are building the Titanic, may still be new material size to build a Frigatte. Likewise, timber to build a house may produce "offcuts" that are too big to make a model. Similarly, to get the wood, I need to get time off work, use my company car, which is charged at 15p/mile plus a load of tax monthly, the shed and machines cost money, at which point I have not paid the electricity.... and once done something like the bowl and lid I made from the Tulip wood will comfortably run into 3 hours, at which point the sand paper, chisels, and special wood polish @ £2.20/75ml is not calculated...... HOWEVER, there is the pleasure it gives one to be entered into the calculation. I want to make some nice table lamps (the sort of stuff that get used by "decorators") and have searched for the bits that goes into it...... just the electrical bits, ie 2meter flex, plug, lamp mount, flange, screws and a switch, all H&S approved etc, comes to £11.00 just to buy in. Now I need to buy in some wood, as I want stuff that says WOW ! If I buy old fence posts, the gardener will want a few quid each etc..... I just hope that when people see prices, they will have some insight into the real cost of items. I have just discovered a new site to me www.folksy.com where you can sell hand made stuff at 5% commision and 20p listing costs. Ebay is 10% and listing etc.... Once I have some stock made up (most stuff sells as I make it at the moment) I may just list on there. |
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my gear knob arrived this morning and I have to say! its cracking! flawless finish and its a really nice ergonomic shape! I will need to mod my gearstick (because of the CA18DET the gearbox sits further forwards so I had to angle the stick back, what I plan to do is glue a rod into the knob and weld on a bar with an internal thread to screw onto the stick and get it sat at the right angle Glad you like your 140 year old knob ;D |
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site called etsy.com wich is like folksy but is american based but has english section but has a lot more people on it.
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site called etsy.com wich is like folksy but is american based but has english section but has a lot more people on it. Thanks for that, lovely site. I will take a better look later when I get in from the shed. |
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Griss, know what you mean about working for minimum wage when you factor in the time, even when working with "Scrap" materials. I'm the same with the recycled material fetish toys I make, every one costs at least an hour, and usually 2 or 3, and I eventually get to sell it for £20-25 maybe 3 weeks later, and I have to make more than enough to sell. Luckily I've started doing more shows at weekend, so even though I have to factor in pitch costs, I've started to make something out of it. And I'm now an international entrepreneur with clients in Germany and Ireland Maybe you should look at local craft fairs once you get a few bits of stock together. At least you can make your money in a lump, rather than drips and drabs. I know how much redundancy can hurt. Intersting post this. You are right, people do not always get the bigger picture. As you say, "scrap" product when you are building the Titanic, may still be new material size to build a Frigatte. Likewise, timber to build a house may produce "offcuts" that are too big to make a model. Similarly, to get the wood, I need to get time off work, use my company car, which is charged at 15p/mile plus a load of tax monthly, the shed and machines cost money, at which point I have not paid the electricity.... and once done something like the bowl and lid I made from the Tulip wood will comfortably run into 3 hours, at which point the sand paper, chisels, and special wood polish @ £2.20/75ml is not calculated...... HOWEVER, there is the pleasure it gives one to be entered into the calculation. I want to make some nice table lamps (the sort of stuff that get used by "decorators") and have searched for the bits that goes into it...... just the electrical bits, ie 2meter flex, plug, lamp mount, flange, screws and a switch, all H&S approved etc, comes to £11.00 just to buy in. Now I need to buy in some wood, as I want stuff that says WOW ! If I buy old fence posts, the gardener will want a few quid each etc..... I just hope that when people see prices, they will have some insight into the real cost of items. I have just discovered a new site to me www.folksy.com where you can sell hand made stuff at 5% commision and 20p listing costs. Ebay is 10% and listing etc.... Once I have some stock made up (most stuff sells as I make it at the moment) I may just list on there. But remember that if you do this as a business then a lot of the costs can be offset against tax, and if you make a loss then you can get tax back... So your expenditure on equipment can be depreciated and consumables and expenses (travel) can be offset against income. If you start to do this seriously, i.e. internet sales, craft fairs etc you really should declare this as additional income (or loss) and get a waiver for NI.. Mark |
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Intersting post this. You are right, people do not always get the bigger picture. As you say, "scrap" product when you are building the Titanic, may still be new material size to build a Frigatte. Likewise, timber to build a house may produce "offcuts" that are too big to make a model. Similarly, to get the wood, I need to get time off work, use my company car, which is charged at 15p/mile plus a load of tax monthly, the shed and machines cost money, at which point I have not paid the electricity.... and once done something like the bowl and lid I made from the Tulip wood will comfortably run into 3 hours, at which point the sand paper, chisels, and special wood polish @ £2.20/75ml is not calculated...... HOWEVER, there is the pleasure it gives one to be entered into the calculation. I want to make some nice table lamps (the sort of stuff that get used by "decorators") and have searched for the bits that goes into it...... just the electrical bits, ie 2meter flex, plug, lamp mount, flange, screws and a switch, all H&S approved etc, comes to £11.00 just to buy in. Now I need to buy in some wood, as I want stuff that says WOW ! If I buy old fence posts, the gardener will want a few quid each etc..... I just hope that when people see prices, they will have some insight into the real cost of items. I have just discovered a new site to me www.folksy.com where you can sell hand made stuff at 5% commision and 20p listing costs. Ebay is 10% and listing etc.... Once I have some stock made up (most stuff sells as I make it at the moment) I may just list on there. But remember that if you do this as a business then a lot of the costs can be offset against tax, and if you make a loss then you can get tax back... So your expenditure on equipment can be depreciated and consumables and expenses (travel) can be offset against income. If you start to do this seriously, I.e. internet sales, craft fairs etc you really should declare this as additional income (or loss) and get a waiver for NI.. Mark Ultimately, there is no way this will pay bills and mortgage at the moment, but the idea is to slowly start getting it to a point where it can be ready to be moved to the next level, ie: Redundancy backup. Nicola and I were speaking of this yesterday and realise we need to get it up to speed in such a way that Revenue can never point a finger or hold out cupped hands for unpaid taxes. This is what I love about these sites, and threads, people looking out for each other. |
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Spalted Pine I think, basically half rotten wood. No good for anything except ornamental use. Adios. I'm seriously likeing those chalices. Been looking for something like that do drink my ales from. Think Lord of The Rings and Ale being drunk out of chalice/goblet looking things. Could you drink out of those or make similar out of more appropriate wood? |
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Right, early update tonight for the junkies and other interested parties. Did a few pieces over the weekend. Some good news from Nicola on Friday was that she shad spoken to the manager of the charity shop where she volunteers 2 days a week, and may have gotten us a bit of progress. The shop has a second shop in Rochesters historic High street where they are planning to sell local artists and crafters items on consignment.... now I do not know if the expectation is that you supply at 50p, when the open market will pay £5 or if you supply at £3 and she then marks up a profit..... we will discuss that in the next week or so, but it does potentially mean a place to sell stuff and get known. Back to what I got up to between shopping and dinner out. Remember the branch form the neighbours tree with the captive rings? I wanted to toss it on the fire wood pile, but Nicola asked me to put a base on it and add a candle sized hole to it.  On Friday Mickey next door asked me to make some stands for his recliner chair which was putting deep holes into the carpet, he noted it when the carpet cleaner came and moved the furniture. So I turned some stands with 50mm holes on top, looks like nice candle holders.  I cleaned up some more fence post, laminated it and then sanded it all so that it can become the base for the table lamp I plan to keep for myself, unless someone pays real value price..... ;D   Lampshade in perfect condition, found put out in Bristol on Friday while I was looking for a pathology lab, and for parking.  Christmas prezzie for Nicola's one best mate. (Not my idea)  More of the same.  Peanut bowl ??  Another jewelery bowl for sister in law, again, good for fire wood pile, but the boss said no ....  Popped into town to get some stuff for the woodwork shop today and picked up various bits, including a couple of these wooden trays. Nicola asked me to make block candle holders to put inside the trays, she reckons women will buy them. At £1/each I cannot make them.  Some block candle holders, and boxes of matches decorated to go with them..... I thought it a jolly good idea   Lastly, me personal favourite (excluding the unfinished table lamp) a single, large candle holder turned from a square piece of laminated Oak.  Thats all for now Folks. |
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Spalted Pine I think, basically half rotten wood. No good for anything except ornamental use. Adios. I'm seriously likeing those chalices. Been looking for something like that do drink my ales from. Think Lord of The Rings and Ale being drunk out of chalice/goblet looking things. Could you drink out of those or make similar out of more appropriate wood? Hi mate, these are made of Spalted Beech, basically half rotten wood, so no good except as ornaments. I am sure one can treat any wood to be waterproof, but my opinion, based on my very limited experience so far, is that the work to hollow out wood, look at the bowl I did last night, pictured above, makes it not really worthwhile. Have a dig around Ebay for wooden challice, glass etc, you may find something wothwhile for cheaper than one can make it. There you go.... many more on Ebay. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Wooden-Chalice-Hand-turned-UK-/220905107435?pt=UK_Metaphysical_New_Age&hash=item336ef86febPrices vary widely. |
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love the lamp, has a lovely rustic feel to it! and Nicola was right about the now candle holder, couldnt have binned that mate! its all looking very good
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Great stuff Rian, just read through the whole thread, and this is really inspirational stuff. I made a gearknob for the van when I first got it back as it had a hideous metal thing fitted. Laminate, glued together, then thrown in the pillar drill and sanded to shape  Still needs a fair bit of shaping but I was pretty happy with it. I'll throw up a pic, mind you I'll have to find it first, it's in a box somewhere with the rest of the interior  Really like the "goblets" That wood looks so gorgeous! |
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Thanks guys. The nice thing fr me is also that I am actually finding I enjoy doing the wood turning. Something else I made the other day, for some reason girls really go for these sets.  |
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I was running about a bit for work today, starting in Slough, then down to Basingstoke and then up to Farnham, just over 200 miles for the day. I also had my manager with me, and he knows the way my head works now, as I did the resto of the pedal cart for his son. So on our way out after seeing the last client, we passed a works department where about 30 plus of these lamps below were all piled into some containers, marked for the recycling skip. I looked at the boss, he laughed and said "Go on" so I went in, found a secretary who went to find the big boss and asked what the chance was of me having one..... this is to mount over the lathe for when I am doing turning that goes deep or needs a fine tuned eye on the work surface. She came back and said that he had said I should help myself to whatever I wanted in exchange for a few quid into the local charity box. WINNER !!!! Here they are, essentially Freebies, or tip treasures. One for the lathe, one for the bandsaw and drill press and one for the work top, and the 4th one for the garage worktop.  I wonder what they would have cost me in the open market? |
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thanks very much 
Still needs a fair bit of shaping but I was pretty happy with it. I'll throw up a pic, mind you I'll have to find it first, it's in a box somewhere with the rest of the interior 
Really like the "goblets" That wood looks so gorgeous!