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I've started to my engine rebuild today and one thing I want to do is make sure that when it all goes back together it looks beautiful and clean and new. However, I've got disgusting plastic water bottles and I'm not sure how best to clean the insides of them. The header tank/bottle has what looks like bad limescale in the bottom of it. I used some of this on it which worked to shift a bit and got rid of some of the blue and orange staining from the antifreeze of ages past. The outside got a scrub with a toothbrush and hot soapy water and came up quite good, but the inside is still orangey. I'm planning to use bicarbonate of soda and white vinegar next as I know that cleans out my wine decanters (yes... I know : nicely. Next up will be the screenwash bottle. Any tips on how to clean these out would be very welcome. I could buy new ones, of course, but if I can clean them I'd rather do that I think.
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Last Edit: Nov 11, 2011 4:17:57 GMT by Deleted
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Dishwasher (seriously) [edit] I don't have one myself, but I've sometimes used the one at my Mum's house if I know she's out. Mum's are handy for that kind of thing [/edit]
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1mzmk1
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Put a handful of sand in them and a tiny bit of water/cleaner, shake like mad and wash it out very thoroughly of course! Works like an abrasive scrub then. Will get rid of the muck inside but i think the orange is the plastic itself discoloured, nothing will help that
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Add to the above, fill with cheap diet cola and leave overnight.
Problem is the plastic is stained - theres no quick fix.
Edit: or go to your local farm supply shop and get a gallon of Milk stone remover - it's about 20000 times stronger than cola acid-wise.
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I've had a tip off for denture tablets too, which is something I should've remembered.
I will try as many of the above as I can, apart from the dishwasher. I only know one person with a dishwasher and he's unlikely to let me use it for car parts because his Dad *would* find out and kill us both, no doubt.
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scruff
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Caustic soda, mix it up with water and chuck it in. It gets really hot so be careful and wear gloves as it'll burn. Chuck some coarse grit in and shake it up I use it with a bamboo skewer to scrape all the bits out of the corners.
Rinse repeat.
It'll only move the residue it will not reverse years of coolant staining.
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Copey
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summert like Detol, bit of water and some rice and give it a good shake
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I've used a pressure washer on a couple in the past. Temp on warm, hold securely on the floor (on a foam padding old blanket so it doesn't get scratched) with a foot and stick the nozzle in and pull the trigger.......make sure you're wearing old clothes though....
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mikeymk
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Rice. Basmati, long grain, whatever it doesn't matter - rice doesn't scratch the inside surface like some other materials used, yet still scrubs all the crud off.
Add some 2K thinners or petrol, half a pint will be fine.
Give that a good shake for a while, then wash it out with dishwash water. The plastic of the expansion tank will still be yellowed, that's permanent. If you want it to be milky translucent white like it was 25yrs ago, you'll need to buy a new one.
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hamps
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I leave them in a bucket of strong Bleach for a week, ocasionally checking them and giving a little scrub with a babies bottle brush come up mint!
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Last Edit: Nov 7, 2011 11:03:28 GMT by hamps
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Bleach FTW then!
Something which may be of interest that I noticed the other day that was quite odd - I had one of the large plastic mixing bowls you have in the kitchen that start life off fairly transparent and then gradually turn more and more white/opaque...
I filled it up with a strong mixture of warm water and non-bio washing liquid to clean up after the cat had murdered a pigeon in the front porch (little sod), when I washed the bowl up again afterwards, it had been perfectly restored back to it's original clear plastic - wierd!? Might help with discoulored plastic bottles too?
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There's some pro tips coming up here. I went shopping and got some cheapo toothbrushes and extra strength Steradent to have a go with. I wasn't going to try bleach as I thought it might harm the plastic, but having seen the results above I might give that a try too.
I'll post the results here as I try stuff.
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Nov 10, 2011 19:24:36 GMT
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There's some pro tips coming up here. I went shopping and got some cheapo toothbrushes and extra strength Steradent to have a go with. ^^ This. Or: Rigger Boots Waterproof trousers Power Washer. Ironically, this worked for the plastic tank in my dishwasher after I'd washed a set of CM gears in it.
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How to clean plastic bottles.ChasR
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Nov 10, 2011 20:48:23 GMT
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Bleach is one I have heard of as is washing up liquid. Brings them up to pretty much brand new. My only concern is about reminants of whatever solution was used still being left in the tank. On a simple header tank or washer bottle then fair enough. But what about a chambered tank. With a few cars using ally heads or blocks making antifreeze a near madatory measure I wonder if it is worth the risk. I could be wrong mind you .
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ChasR: lots and lots and lots of rinsing out with fresh clean water. Insomnia. Good excuse as any to do some tinkering. Right, I've been going through suggestions as I've got the stuff to do it. First was to soak the bottles overnight with some extra strong denture tablets. This loosened up a lot of the crusty stuff in the bottles, but didn't do much else. Not worth photographing it really. Next thing to try was rice. This was much more successful. After spending about half an hour swirling each pot with rice, warm water and a bit of laundry detergent I got this. I found that on the first attempt using fairy liquid it seemed to make the rice go too soft to work, the laundry detergent seemed to keep the rice hard and useful. This bit of greb is stubborn and I can't quite get the toothbrush in at it. I was astonished at how much it cleaned up this bottle though. All that crusty blue-black stuff in the bottom is gone. Next was to try some course sand, I suspected the rice wasn't fine enough to get the reddish scale off. I was right too. Another half hour swirling per bottle. I'm actually quite pleased with that. I reckon they'll need another swirl with some sand before I bleach the yellowness out and they'll be ready for detailing and the little bit of repair on the screenwash bottle. When I get frustrated at how long it's taking to clean up I remind myself that this is 26 years of sediment that I'm getting rid of, it's not something I can do in five minutes.
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Nov 13, 2011 11:37:32 GMT
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I get like that, then I think f*ck it, and bodge it. Or not bother finishing. I blame my dad for that
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Nov 13, 2011 14:11:27 GMT
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PROTIP - paint the outside of the tank with a white rattle can. For a truely professional finish, paint the bottom half pale blue or pink depending on if you prefer strawberry or blueberry antifreeze. Nextdoors cat loves both.
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Last Edit: Nov 13, 2011 14:12:02 GMT by cobblers
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Nov 13, 2011 17:56:17 GMT
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It's a shame you can never get them back to looking new and opake the best i've ever gotten was back to white and that took like 7 differant stages just as Volksangyl has done, though TBH i got the same results in me mums dishwasher after 3 cycles and it was a lot less work ;D I usually start with persil in a bucket of hot water and finish up with bleach (daren't use me own dishwasher as the wife isn't as understanding as me Mum )
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I wonder if it's worth getting an old second hand dishwasher for purely garage use? Probably not, lol.
Been busy with the grinder lately so I've not done any more on these just yet.
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See they can take a while, thats why I chuck mine in the bleach and really just leave them alone, a babies bottle brush brush is awesome as it bends to wherever more or less, I also have a swish about but I use a handful of ball bearings or pellets works a treat. Then once I'm happy I wipe the outside with thinners then t cut Above is the result
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