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Oct 25, 2011 16:31:05 GMT
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Licence copy vs badge engineering, fair enough, but there were badge engineered cars within groups prewar.
Also the dodge charger daytona and Plymouth superbird share no exterior body panels. They aren't so much badge engineered as two different cars on a common Platform
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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86mike
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Oct 25, 2011 19:26:41 GMT
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Not Retro I know but saw this in a mag today and got ranty  Aston Martin Cygnet  Toyota IQ  IMHO you'd have to be a total moron to buy the Aston at nearly three times the price. Like this type ;D |
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Oct 25, 2011 20:41:24 GMT
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Don't you get one free or something when you buy a new Aston?
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Oct 25, 2011 20:50:24 GMT
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Does this count? Isuzu trooper  Vauxhall monterey  Holden jackaroo  Subaru bighorn  |
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1984 Subaru GLF Hatch
1983 Skoda 120LE Super estelle
1977 Subaru DL Wagon
1978 Datsun 120Y Coupe
1995 Skoda favorit estate
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Oct 25, 2011 23:04:31 GMT
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New(ish) Detomaso Mangusta:  Became the Qvale Mangusta, And then MG got in on it:  Yes, it's the MGSV that Clarkson said he'd stuff a load of N2O up. Waster. |
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'83 GTM Coupe. 4A-GE Powered
'00 GTM Libra Auto. Ick.
'71 Detomaso Pantera. Current Resto
'89 GMC Safari Tow/Kip bus
'05 SAAB 9-3 Daily
'71 Siva Moonbug. Not even contemplating resto yet.
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Oct 25, 2011 23:23:41 GMT
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Dodge Charger Daytona and Plymouth Superbird  Obvs loads of Americans like that, but they're my favourite Err - no While the Superbird and Daytona are both built on the mid-size B-body platform, the Superbird is based on a Roadrunner which is derived from a Plymouth Satellite, while the Daytona is based on a Dodge Charger which was a sport luxury coupe that shared no panels with the Dodge Coronet which was the main-mid-range Dodge offering which in turn shared no exterior panels with the Satellite/Roadrunner/Superbird. In fact, in the late 1960s and early 1970s Chrysler and Ford didn't really engage in Badge engineering. Valiant/Dart/Barracuda - different sheet metal, different wheelbase, Coronet/Satellite/Charger, - different sheetmetal different wheelbase, Barracuda/Challenger, different sheet metal, different wheelbase. Mustang/Cougar, different sheetmetal, Ford Falcon/Mercury Comet - different sheetmetal, different wheelbase. |
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1995 Range Rover 4.0
1995 BMW 320i Saloon
1989 BMW 325i Touring
1991 Mercedes 300TE-24
1991 Mercedes 190e
1970 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1966 Valiant 200 Custom
1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Station Wagon
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There were heaps in Australia in the 80s.
Ford Laser = Mazda 323
Ford Telstar = Mazda 626
Ford Corsair = Nissan Bluebird (known as the Pintara here)
Ford Maverick = Nissan Patrol
Holden Gemini = Isuzu Gemini
Holden Astra = Nissan Pulsar/Cherry
later Holden Astra = Opel/Vauxhall Astra
Holden Nova = Toyota Corolla
Holden Apollo = Toyota Camry
early Holden Torana = Vauxhall Viva
Holden Camira = GM J-car (Cavalier/Ascona/etc)
Chrysler Sigma = Mitsubishi Sigma
Chrysler Galant = Mitsubishi Galant
Chrysler Lancer = Mitsubishi Lancer
Rover 416 = Honda Integra
Rover Quintet = Honda Quintet
Toyota Lexcen = Holden Commodore
Nissan Ute = Ford Falcon Ute
Austin Lancer and Morris Major were the local versions of the Wolseley 1500/Riley 1.5
Hillman Imp GT was the local version of the Singer Chamois Sport/Sunbeam Imp Sport
and probably more I've forgotten about.
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63 Alpine Series III
69 Imp Sport 930
07 Golf V GTI
11 Freelander 2 (hers!)
70 Hunter Royal (scrapped), 78 Chrysler Alpine GLS (given away), 84 505 STi (sold), 01 206 1.6XR (sold)
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What about the Galaxy-Sharan-Alhambra(?) badge engineering? Then ford came out with the new galaxy as it was sick of being the last in the que for body builds in the VW plant! Problem is the new Galaxy is so good that other manufactures have just waved the white flag, and just filling the segment with old models given a face lift, thanks ford for making people carriers good but no one want to compete with you  |
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Oct 27, 2011 15:01:13 GMT
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Ladies and Gentlemen! I give to you.... The Geo Tracker.  |
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Last Edit: Oct 27, 2011 15:02:41 GMT by Soopahfly
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Oct 27, 2011 15:25:59 GMT
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Don't you get one free or something when you buy a new Aston? No. As Mike said you get to pay three times what you would for the Toyota to get a car with inferior perfomance but nice seats. A friend is on the production engineering team at gaydon and they are less than impressed at having the project foisted on them as a fait accompli. Need to get group emmissions down and make a lightweight, fuel efficient car? Fine, let the engineers do some engineering. A lotus Elan or a Smart roadster would have been a much more suitable platform. Back on topic   |
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bigrod
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Oct 27, 2011 16:06:05 GMT
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General Motors are definitely the most guilty of badge engineering. My favourite of which is the J platform. The list is mental and shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia....... 1982–1988 Cadillac Cimarron 1982–1988 Oldsmobile Firenza 1982–1989 Buick Skyhawk 1982–2005 Chevrolet Cavalier 1982 Pontiac J2000 1983 Pontiac 2000 1984 Pontiac 2000 Sunbird 1985–1994 Pontiac Sunbird 1995–2005 Pontiac Sunfire 1982–1988 Opel Ascona C 1982–1988 Vauxhall Cavalier Mk II 1983–1989 Isuzu Aska 1982–1989 Holden Camira 1982–1996 Chevrolet Monza 1995–2000 Toyota Cavalier 1990–1997 Daewoo Esperoen.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_J_platformWasn't the Espero a Cortina in drag? |
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If I have to explain, you won't understand.
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Oct 27, 2011 16:55:02 GMT
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General Motors are definitely the most guilty of badge engineering. My favourite of which is the J platform. The list is mental and shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia....... 1982–1988 Cadillac Cimarron 1982–1988 Oldsmobile Firenza 1982–1989 Buick Skyhawk 1982–2005 Chevrolet Cavalier 1982 Pontiac J2000 1983 Pontiac 2000 1984 Pontiac 2000 Sunbird 1985–1994 Pontiac Sunbird 1995–2005 Pontiac Sunfire 1982–1988 Opel Ascona C 1982–1988 Vauxhall Cavalier Mk II 1983–1989 Isuzu Aska 1982–1989 Holden Camira 1982–1996 Chevrolet Monza 1995–2000 Toyota Cavalier 1990–1997 Daewoo Esperoen.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_J_platformWasn't the Espero a Cortina in drag? Cavalier. It was built on the GM J Platform. |
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Oct 27, 2011 20:53:12 GMT
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1984 Subaru GLF Hatch
1983 Skoda 120LE Super estelle
1977 Subaru DL Wagon
1978 Datsun 120Y Coupe
1995 Skoda favorit estate
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subaru liberty- subaru legacy- Isuzu Aska
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1967/8 Isuzu Bellett
1969 Isuzu Florian Deluxe
Never buy a car you cant push...
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bigrod
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Oct 28, 2011 13:51:55 GMT
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Wasn't the Espero a Cortina in drag? Cavalier. It was built on the GM J Platform. Ah yes, you are absolutely correct! I was getting confused with the Hyundai Stellar. Sincerest agopolies |
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If I have to explain, you won't understand.
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Oct 28, 2011 21:40:50 GMT
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I know Audi and VW are sister companies, but still... Volkswagen Polo  Audi 50  |
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chevazon
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1939 Chevrolet 2 door coupe, `67 `Zon estate, `87 Ragtop Cavalier, 4 x 800 Drifters,(!) 1500 Drifter
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Austin - Nash - Rambler - Kelvinator = Metropolitan  |
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