61stu
Part of things
Posts: 302
|
|
|
|
Right i'll need a new company car within a year, my idea is to snap up a Morris Minor Traveller, weld it up, dump it, paint it gloss black, wide red steels with whitewalls and then get it sign written with my business details.  Problem is i do about 30k miles a year so what type of engine should i go for without having to buy shares in BP, I was wondering about a 2.0 Zetec. Any ideas? It needs to be reliable, and the engine transplant i'll get done professionally, the rest i can do. I do have a 44k GTI engine kicking about in my Audi. Do you think 2 grand would cover install? Anyone recommend someone capable of doing this type of work in the Essex area? Cheers ;D |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
No help whatsoever I`m afraid but didn`t I see somewhere that Prodrive were building a Traveller for David Richards to use at his holiday cottage ? IIRC there`s a firm in Bath doing K series conversions - again no use whatsoever though  |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Its not just the engine you need to deal with, but minor has wooden chock brakes (no servo and drums front and back). Basically you need to find a power train from a donar and transplant the back axle, braking, suspension and engine/tranny. Its cart springs on the back too!
The most common is to go Morris Marina / Ital braking/suspension etc, fit Sierra 5 speed and a 1300 Ital engine. Thats all a bits pants though for power, so aim for anything rear wheel drive, perhaps a transit van can shed rear axle / suspension for a ford based drive train?
|
| |
|
|
philly
Part of things
Posts: 159
|
|
|
|
check out www.beardmorebros.co.uk for some moggie ideas. they seem to favour fiat twin cams. you might als get some ideas for brakes, axles and things from them. hope it helps |
| |
spaceframe mini project, bmw 635csi, mx5
|
|
fugazi
Part of things
Posts: 11
|
|
|
|
|
Hi,
Fiat twin cam engines go in a treat, if you can find one! also Rover/Honda k series. Ford and Toyota rear axles seem to be the weapon of choice, there is a range of front brake upgrades available, as well as telescopic/coilover shock conversions, I had a Minor with a 2.0 fiat TC a few years ago, Awesome!
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Get a mondeo!!!!
|
| |
1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There was the K-series engined Traveller around a while ago,.. got featured in Retro Cars.
|
| |
|
|
rodit
Posted a lot
Posts: 1,683
|
|
|
|
|
Got a heavy main shaft 5 speed arbath gear box for rwd for sale for £150 if you can find a twink to bolt to it if it's any help?
;D ;D
|
| |
Low and slow
Why can't i tune it?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
that company that does the K series conversions charges about £4500 for it. IIRC that doesn't include touching the brakes or suspension.
|
| |
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
|
|
|
|
Seth
South East
MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
Posts: 15,538
|
|
|
|
Sorry, this isn't any help with the mechanical aspects, just a bit of inspiration...  |
| |
Last Edit: Aug 2, 2006 14:43:43 GMT by Seth
Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable. |
|
|
|
|
|
awoo
Posted a lot
Posts: 1,506
|
|
|
|
|
fit a 1.6 honda B16a engine! vtec and kicks out 165bhp as standard and 100% bullet proof and economical!
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hmm.
This kind of question comes up every few months or so.
Are you really, really sure that you want to be driving 30000 miles a year in a car that was designed in 1948?
Sure you can 'pop in' a different engine, uprate the brakes suspension, put some more sound deadening in.... but the flaws in the design will remain. You have to live with driving positions that were designed prior to anthopometrically tailored seats & driving positions were concieved. And 30k a year is going to take it's toll on the bodywork of a minor pretty quick I should have thought.
Can you live in the summer without air-con when doing your business miles? Can you cope with cack heaters in the winter when you HAVE to be somewhere?
I'm not saying it is impossible, but seems like a pretty masochistic idea. Sure it may be a hoot to drive, but it might also be hard work - do you need to arrive at your destination unruffled and collected ready for a full day's work?
If you wanted to cover 30k, I would suggest that a more modern 'retro' with some creature comforts would make a much better choice - take a look at how bryn does things with comfy & quick 80's luxo-mobiles on LPG.
Or if you really need to have a minor, buy one and put in a rorty twink and drive it at the weekends etc. That way you can have performance without having to add other stuff in to make it 'useable' - and at the same time buy yourself a run-of-the-mill diesel anono-mobile for your business use.... just think - 50mpg from the bland mobile will be alot of pennies saved over 30mpg from a modern engined minor..... and you can spend that on your weekend toy.
Just my two penneth worth. I'm off to hide behind the sofa as everyone tells me I'm talking bo11ox as usual....
|
| |
|
|
61stu
Part of things
Posts: 302
|
|
|
|
Hmm. This kind of question comes up every few months or so. Are you really, really sure that you want to be driving 30000 miles a year in a car that was designed in 1948? Sure you can 'pop in' a different engine, uprate the brakes suspension, put some more sound deadening in.... but the flaws in the design will remain. You have to live with driving positions that were designed prior to anthopometrically tailored seats & driving positions were concieved. And 30k a year is going to take it's toll on the bodywork of a minor pretty quick I should have thought. Can you live in the summer without air-con when doing your business miles? Can you cope with cack heaters in the winter when you HAVE to be somewhere? I'm not saying it is impossible, but seems like a pretty masochistic idea. Sure it may be a hoot to drive, but it might also be hard work - do you need to arrive at your destination unruffled and collected ready for a full day's work? If you wanted to cover 30k, I would suggest that a more modern 'retro' with some creature comforts would make a much better choice - take a look at how bryn does things with comfy & quick 80's luxo-mobiles on LPG. Or if you really need to have a minor, buy one and put in a rorty twink and drive it at the weekends etc. That way you can have performance without having to add other stuff in to make it 'useable' - and at the same time buy yourself a run-of-the-mill diesel anono-mobile for your business use.... just think - 50mpg from the bland mobile will be alot of pennies saved over 30mpg from a modern engined minor..... and you can spend that on your weekend toy. Just my two penneth worth. I'm off to hide behind the sofa as everyone tells me I'm talking bo11ox as usual.... Yeah i understand that this sounds like one of those ooohhh i wish threads, but its something I'm seriously considering. My milage is mainly local mileage, very little motorway miles and no aircon is fine with me - ive got it at the mo and its never used. I m trying to create something that'll be eye catching and unusual to help get peoples attention and see the sign writing. I can live with hard suspension and regular body maintenance having been a panel beater and sprayer, i think if the mechanicals are done properly then it should be ok and just need regular servicing etc. I'm not looking for anything thats neccesarily lightening quick but a modern vtec or similar 1.6-2.0 would do. |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Why not keep it all old? Ital brakes and a remote servo so it's light work, 1275 from a Midget, Metro turbo head and turbo should see you 120hp ish and more if you want it.
Or what about an injected Sierra engine and auto box for lazy torque cruising.
Mazda MX5 is a nice little combo with a good 5-speed and turbo kits pop out a reliable 270hp without breaking stuff regularly.
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Its not just the engine you need to deal with, but minor has wooden chock brakes (no servo and drums front and back). Basically you need to find a power train from a donar and transplant the back axle, braking, suspension and engine/tranny. Its cart springs on the back too! bullhang!!!!! my moggy has stock brakes and is all the better for it! they stop well. they warp under excessive use, but you get used to using the engine/gears for brakes and carrying speed through corners (ask spacekadett what its like on 2&1/2 wheels). late 1098 minors have bigger drums, wheel cylinders and master cylinder, they're not as bad as people say. as for motive power, my lightly tuned 1098 had 83mph , 3 up with the roof rack on and some revs to spare on sunday morning. rep mileage will mean some modernisation obviously. bigger rims, modern rubber, then put a sierra kit on by all means. the engine you use is up to you, as there hasn't been much that ain't been shoved in one. but rotten minors eat money in repair panels. I made some myself but the cost of panels (and some nothing trims) cost nearly £900  unless you get a good one in the first place, you could spend your 2 grand on restoring it, before you get into modifying it. you'd be better off getting a more modern type of car, like something form the mid 60s TBH  mine |
| |
|
|
61stu
Part of things
Posts: 302
|
|
|
|
[/quote] bullhang!!!!! my moggy has stock brakes and is all the better for it! they stop well. they warp under excessive use, but you get used to using the engine/gears for brakes and carrying speed through corners (ask spacekadett what its like on 2&1/2 wheels). late 1098 minors have bigger drums, wheel cylinders and master cylinder, they're not as bad as people say. as for motive power, my lightly tuned 1098 had 83mph , 3 up with the roof rack on and some revs to spare on sunday morning. rep mileage will mean some modernisation obviously. bigger rims, modern rubber, then put a sierra kit on by all means. the engine you use is up to you, as there hasn't been much that ain't been shoved in one. but rotten minors eat money in repair panels. I made some myself but the cost of panels (and some nothing trims) cost nearly £900 unless you get a good one in the first place, you could spend your 2 grand on restoring it, before you get into modifying it. you'd be better off getting a more modern type of car, like something form the mid 60s TBH [/quote] I'll be doing all the metal work myself , the 2k was a ball park figure on getting the engine and mechanicals done. |
| |
|
|
fugazi
Part of things
Posts: 11
|
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
