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Jul 24, 2011 22:09:54 GMT
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Another modification advice request thread from me. As I collect parts and the idea comes into focus I'm better able to know what I want. PhilA is partially to blame for suggesting I fit some hideaway lights, a thing I rate only slightly higher on the Scale of Win than pop-up lights. Currently we look like this up front. I then pulled it apart and slotted in the Type 4 units I got recently to get this. But I want to look a bit more like this. Obviously, the above is a digitally manipulated photograph. This is a possibility though. The headlights sit a long way back if needed and the original brackets are going to be cut out/modified for the new double units to sit in comfortably. I've no idea what I'd need to do in order to make a hideaway light system, or if there's an off the shelf or easily modified bit of kit out there I can already use. So... practical considerations and aesthetic opinion are of value with this and any better idea if anyone has one of course.
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Last Edit: Jul 24, 2011 22:10:19 GMT by Deleted
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Jul 24, 2011 22:29:09 GMT
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Hmmm... I got a strange idea... Maybe the headlamp wiper arrangement from a Saab 99 could work? The wipers on them are going horizontally over the headlamps. Maybe it could be used to pull the headlamp covers on the inside of the grille, and to push them out again if you drive the motor the other way...do you understand what I mean?
It may be completely useless - just a strange idea I got.
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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skinnylew
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Jul 24, 2011 22:39:26 GMT
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just realised what the type 4 lights make it look like!!! loving the type4 lights though, inspired choice!!
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Jul 24, 2011 22:54:28 GMT
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volvo: That's not a bad idea, motors for headlamp wipers must be really small and there's enough space to hide them behind the front valance below the grille. skinnylew: hah! So it does. In my estimation that's no bad thing.
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Jul 24, 2011 23:19:50 GMT
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This video explains a bit what I'm talking about, I guess?
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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Jul 24, 2011 23:29:59 GMT
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It does. They're different to what I was expecting, the motion is ideal for one of the options for where the grille goes.
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mk2moo
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I really like the new arrangement, good to see something different on the face of a bready.
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Aw, come on. It is a breadvan. Think laterally. Bread bin mechanism. Hinged at either side and folds down or up to wherever there is space. In this instance pneumatics are your friend. Very small actuators, a lot of force available for their size. Added bonus that if they jam on a vacuum operated system nothing burns out. Plus you can make it fail-safe with weights (if something quits the does just fall open under their own weight. Plus, with a vacuum operated system you don't need anything extra really, just a one way valve and a reservoir, hook it up to the manifold and voila, there's your operating vacuum
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Love it, type4 lights fit in there well, don't need to hide them up, show em off
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I'm thinking horizontal grill bars would suit the shape of the car better in this application, but either way it is a brilliant idea and should look unique and cool when done!
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Jul 25, 2011 11:04:29 GMT
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I hadn't seen the current set-up from the front before, that looks really good. However, the type-4 lights are definitely better. It gives the car a very seventies look. I think the problem with hiding the lights behind grills is the risk that it may end up looking too much like this: You need to 'shop it up first.
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" East bound and down, loaded up and truckin' "
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Jul 25, 2011 11:05:08 GMT
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always wanted to extended the wings and bonnet on mine for a tube grill
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mrj
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Jul 25, 2011 11:48:28 GMT
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Last Edit: Jul 25, 2011 11:48:55 GMT by mrj
- 1971 VW 1600 TL Fastback - 1978 Passat GLS Variant - 1980 Audi 100 5E - 1981 VW aircooled panel van (sold) - 1983 VW Jetta Mk.I - 1984 VW Polo Coupé - 1984 VW Passat hatchback - 1987 VW Passat Variant - 1987 VW Passat hatchback - 1988 VW T25
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cianha
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Jul 25, 2011 12:52:18 GMT
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Jul 25, 2011 12:58:12 GMT
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Looks good - but I could imagine some cooling problems with a water cooled engine
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Jul 25, 2011 13:04:29 GMT
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Old Fords never die they just go sideways
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cianha
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Jul 25, 2011 13:38:53 GMT
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Ah, there's no gaps below the bumper then I guess? I was thinking along the lines of the B3 Passat:
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Jul 25, 2011 21:55:06 GMT
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robinmasters: But I like that look. mrj: On my budget? HA! cianha: While I like the solid front look, it's not for me on this project, plus cooling is likely to be an issue since the holes under the bumper aren't really that great for funnelling air at the radiator. cortinaman: this picture? Can the bars be put in vertically rather than horizontally for the same effect? The more I see horizontal bars the more I realise that they have to be really skinny to keep everything in proportion, the vertical bars seem easier to keep to scale.
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Jul 25, 2011 22:20:22 GMT
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Other idea is to make headlamp covers that are hinged below/above the headlights. Similiar to some USA cars (Mercury Cougar XR-7?) Or buy a Lancia Beta grille
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Click picture for more
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I am a fan of the Cougar face. And drop-down light covers have advantages as mentioned since a mechanical/electrical failure will cause them to just be open which is far safer than them remaining closed. I bet a cougar grille isn't cheap, but it might be the right height.
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