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Jul 22, 2011 11:26:28 GMT
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I am getting the Cadillac ready to sell to replace with one of two cars which are really making my WANT bone itch.
The two cars are very similar in a lot of respect but very oposite in terms of the practicalities of condition...
Car1: Its running, driving, T&T, no bother. However it needs the paint sorting out - in fact a total respray - and the interior will need help too. Its top of my budget as it stands (in fact possibly over it). Hmmm.. But its a well cool car. But its not so rare I couldn't find another one another time.
Car2: Its been bare metal resprayed, immaculate original interior. Its been sat in the guy's storage shed for about 18 months. It needs a spot of recomissioning and a trip to the MOT man. Its also a very cool car, its rarer and its a bit cheaper until you consider I'll need to get it transported half the length of the country to get it home...
I have the Camaro and Trans Am both here and on the road so no T&T right now isn't a massive issue.
I'm not saying what either car is as its not so much about which you like best, its about which is the least unsuitable!
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Jul 22, 2011 11:50:10 GMT
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Which one is the Chrysler?  Option 2 for me. Get the one you wont find again. IF it's on "the list". |
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craig1010cc
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Jul 22, 2011 11:57:16 GMT
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car 1 for me, you can asses the mechanincs already and get a bit of fun from it now, and then repiant/trim it later to your own preference and you can be 100% happy what lies beneath the paint and the level of prep that has gone into it
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Jul 22, 2011 12:10:58 GMT
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Two, because you're doing the work...not me.
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Jul 22, 2011 12:21:23 GMT
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I think I can guess what the first one is and (if it is) I'm liking it! The second one sounds more acheivable by the time you factor in respray and interior work on #1. If the first one is top of your budget now, how are you going to afford the paint/trim work? If you can't, then can you live with it as it is for the foreseeable future? If #2 only needs some minor recomssioning work then it sounds like the better option to me. But then it's not me thinking of buying either car  |
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Jul 22, 2011 12:42:49 GMT
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I had originally set a budget of £65 to do a full respray on the Cadillac (I've broken that as I've had to buy some spray putty today) so paint and body don't scare me, and don't have to cost the earth to do well. Its the time and effort which are the "expensive" elements. I keep thinking of option 2 stanced on some suitable slotmags and appropriate rubber and that sways me significantly towards it... |
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filmidget
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Jul 22, 2011 15:02:58 GMT
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Finding it extremely hard to answer the question on practicalities alone - need to know what the cars are so the 'heart' is involved, not just the 'head'.
Leaving aside practical side, which of the two models would you actually prefer to drive?
As Surprisingskoda said, is either on 'the list' - I think I would rather have a common car on my 'list', than a rare car that's not on it (or higher up/lower down 'the list', respectively).
What is this car for? Commuting? If so, number one.
Plaything? Just 'cos you can? If so, number two... though haven't you enough projects already? (yeah, I know, pot/kettle)
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'79 MG Midget 1500 - Still patiently awaiting attention
'02 Vauxhall Astra 1.8 Elegance(!) - Better than you might think
'03 Mazda MX5 - All new and shiny looking (thanks to Antony at Rust Republic)
'09 Renault Clio - Needs to go.
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Jul 22, 2011 15:55:11 GMT
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Both have their charms...
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Seth
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Jul 22, 2011 16:26:57 GMT
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Which one is the Chrysler? He saved me typing that |
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable. |
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Jul 22, 2011 16:33:26 GMT
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Personally - since I'm awful at bodywork, but not bad at mechanicals - I'd go for Number 2. Provided that the required bits are available.
But we've seen that you can do paint.
I suppose it might come down to whether or not you trust the quality of the bodywork on no.2 - if it's been sprayed recently is it hiding something?
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Jul 22, 2011 16:41:49 GMT
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no idea what would be needed for a MOT until I take it up. I know the chap who has owned the thing for the last few years, he sent me some photos of when it was in bare metal / respray
Only thing giving me creeps is that the bumpers have been painted with wheel silver.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 22, 2011 16:48:22 GMT
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cant really decide without pictures, because the first car might be a mid 80s hirst mobile (no offense hirst), but the second car might be a 64 impala  lol (and viceversa) |
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Jul 22, 2011 16:54:08 GMT
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Imagine its the same car... The issue isn't about makes and models but about MOT vs. paint and interior...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 22, 2011 16:59:05 GMT
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Okay then, how does the first car look? would you say that the mot is legit for the state of the car?
are there any other bits your not sure about with the second car
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EmDee
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Jul 22, 2011 17:10:20 GMT
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Imagine its the same car... The issue isn't about makes and models but about MOT vs. paint and interior... See the trouble is that we all have different skill sets, some of us are mechanical folk who wouldn't want to even try painting a car and some have no trouble painting a car but don't have a clue about mechanicals. I think it's down to the work you are more comfortable carrying out. Cost wise it can vary so much - for you it's £60 (not including time) to paint a car but for most folk it'd be lots more and out of the question. Conversely how much would it cost to get it through the MOT? Could be £10 - could be £500 just for parts and some of them could be really hard to find. Anyway I voted for number 2 because for me it'd be easier to mechanically fix a car than give one a paintjob - unless you're going for the rollered look I can do that! |
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Last Edit: Jul 22, 2011 17:11:34 GMT by EmDee
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Jul 22, 2011 18:28:49 GMT
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Option 2. That seems the lesser pain in the backside. I'm up for the road-trip to get it. |
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rysz
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Jul 22, 2011 18:52:41 GMT
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Option 2. That seems the lesser pain in the backside. I'm up for the road-trip to get it. Are you driving this time? That way I get to sit in the big car? Rysz. |
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Jul 22, 2011 19:20:01 GMT
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hmmmm tough one. Id be tempted to say option one if its mechanically and MOT sound as paintwork is something that you can do not a problem. But option 2 is going to be decided upon how much work is needed for the MOT and if its rare is it going to be harder to get parts  damn this is hard. If it looks like not much work for the MOT then Id say option 2 . At the end of the day you could do the work to that one and it be fine but then you could also buy option 1, and by MOT time it needs even more work than option 2. Plus its my thought....might not be right but personal opinion....that if a car has been bare metal resprayed and interior is mint then its more likely to have been looked after well and less likely to incur huge repair bills. Like I sai probably wrong but meh, thats what I think. Option 2 for me. |
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whoever said dogs were man's best friend....obviously never heard of cable ties
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Jul 22, 2011 19:21:01 GMT
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2 for me.
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Jul 22, 2011 19:28:59 GMT
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id say two
rarer and cheaper sounds good if you can recommision for less than the stuff number one would need
and not a daily means ya don't need to throw cash at it regularly
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damn this is hard. If it looks like not much work for the MOT then Id say option 2 . At the end of the day you could do the work to that one and it be fine but then you could also buy option 1, and by MOT time it needs even more work than option 2.