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Current Engine:
Compression Ratio: 8.5:1
Engine: 1452cc
Bhp @ 5400rpm 83 (S.A.E)
Torque: (lb/ft 3000rpm) 78
Valves: 8 - Overhead Cam-Shaft (chaindrive)
New engine:
Compression Ratio: 9.3:1
Engine: 1690cc
Bhp @ 5400rpm 95 (S.A.E)
Torque: (lb/ft 3000rpm) 98
Valves: 8 - Overhead Cam-Shaft (beltdrive)
I could obtain this for £150 and it would be a straight bolt in swap.
Bear in mind the car only weighs 950kg.
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What engine is it, Alan? Not exactly a big jump in terms of power and torque, but if it's a nicer, more refined engine, or more efficient, or there is something wrong with the current engine that is uneconomical to fix.... Moar info please  |
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Not only will it go faster, it might be more economical at a steady cruise, due to the higher CR. Assuming that the carb jets and ignition timing are correct, of course.
12bhp - and 20 [clarkson] torques [/clarkson] - for £150? As long as the new engine is in good condition, do it. Budget for a new belt and tensioner(s) though.
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What engine is it, Alan? Not exactly a big jump in terms of power and torque, but if it's a nicer, more refined engine, or more efficient, or there is something wrong with the current engine that is uneconomical to fix.... Moar info please It is the 1.7 engine from a Niva. So it won't be more refined! |
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Not only will it go faster, it might be more economical at a steady cruise, due to the higher CR. Assuming that the carb jets and ignition timing are correct, of course. 12bhp - and 20 [clarkson] torques [/clarkson] - for £150? As long as the new engine is in good condition, do it. Budget for a new belt and tensioner(s) though. It may not end up having as much bhp as that. It is currently an injected lump that would need converting to carb. New engine has only done 40,000 miles, but a belt change is a half hour job and the belt is cheap enough. |
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one other thing to note about the engine swap.
the new engine will put you in the higher road tax band. so an extra 100 odd quid a year?
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Last Edit: Jul 1, 2011 18:15:29 GMT by Al Ramone
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I hear 2.8 Iveco daily engines will bolt up.. 120ish bhp, 200ish clarkson torques.. both easily increased with simple mods to the fuel pump and it'll run on veg.... Just saying, like |
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I hear 2.8 Iveco daily engines will bolt up.. eh, what, in a Lada? That sounds good. In so many wrong ways. Answer to OP - you should be able to feel the difference for sure with the proposed swap. |
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Well, thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the swap is not as easy as I'd thought.
The manifold is different, so would need to source a carbed one, and the engine would mean the car would need to pass a stricter emissions test.
I'll probably just wait for something older and more powerful!
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I could obtain this for £150 and it would be a straight bolt in swap. Bear in mind the car only weighs 950kg. I approve. I hear 2.8 Iveco daily engines will bolt up.. I approve even more ;D |
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and the engine would mean the car would need to pass a stricter emissions test. I'll probably just wait for something older and more powerful! there would be no change to the emissions test. that goes on the age of the car, not the engine. |
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B-8-D
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Save a little more and for q fiat twincam.. ace engines you wont regret it..
My 2p
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Yep, Fiat twin cam FTW! I put a 2 litre one in my old 1300ES saloon 20 years ago. I never laughed so much, mopping up all the cool dudes in their XR3i and GTi's was just so much fun! ;D As with a lot of big engine in a small car conversions it was excellent on fuel too if you drove sensibly. The rest of the car was purposely left completely standard except for some major spring choppage and decent gas dampers. Eventually a mate of mine bought it off me and on went a pair of twin 40's and a 5 speed box. Then came a pair of different cams! It really was very quick, especially for the time. Said mate was a very good driver - if a bit mad behind the wheel! Pulling over 6500 RPM flat out in 5th gear was not something I wanted to be part of though!  Get it done CP, there really isn't a downside to a Fiat TC conversion. |
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Apart from finding a decent twin cam and RWD box cheaply...
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Not only will it go faster, it might be more economical at a steady cruise, due to the higher CR. Assuming that the carb jets and ignition timing are correct, of course. 12bhp - and 20 [clarkson] torques [/clarkson] - for £150? As long as the new engine is in good condition, do it. Budget for a new belt and tensioner(s) though. Higher tax rate, though. |
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Better idea. Mazda MX5 lump.
Can you get a carbed one?
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Better idea. Mazda MX5 lump. Can you get a carbed one? Nope, all injected, but as Seth proved, not a problem if you do a bit of fab'ing  Other issue is that they struggle to better 30 mpg in a MX, so would expect it to be worse in a Lada. Would be awesome though, espec with a bini supercharger fitted  |
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Better idea. Mazda MX5 lump. Can you get a carbed one? There's a Nissan SR20 for sale on SXOC at the moment. 2.0 16v VVT, injected tho. |
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This has to be about spannering ability,and getting it done on a budget, right? If you are highly competent and/or know people that are, anything can be shoved under the bonnet.
I know that this is a bit left of field but, possibly a nice compact easy little engine,already carbed with O/D gearbox and in abundance could be fitted?
I'm actually thinking of the twin carb 1800 B series.
Tuneable, quite robust, small enough to drop straight in, no major faffing around and is as "retro" an engine as you can have. Its also got 95BHP on tap, 110lb of torque and, in standard form, isnt horrendous on fuel.
It would certainly be different and would tick most of the boxes without causing any real headaches.
Just an idea..
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Last Edit: Jul 3, 2011 13:47:02 GMT by Rob M
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Other issue is that they struggle to better 30 mpg in a MX, so would expect it to be worse in a Lada. Would be awesome though, espec with a bini supercharger fitted 
