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You can put an OM606 in a w203 but there are a lot of things to consider.
If it is a petrol you will need to get a diesel diff and suitable gearbox (the petrol 722.6 autobox is not strong enough) you would need to get one from a c270 cdi if you plan on hiking the power up as even the standard 722.6 in the e300td is not man enough for a tuned 606. IF you get a 722.6 transmission from a c270cdi you would need to rob this transmission controller or get a stand alone ofgear one
Regarding the ECU, you can run an ecu from an OM606 donor w210 to control the standard EDC injection pump BUT you would have to get one from sean treacy, this way it will have all the daft key and immobilizer/limp mode curse word removed.
All in this would not be a cheap project.
The 606 is a fantastic engine but you'd be cheaper fixing your's or selling it and getting a c320cdi or c270cdi and tuning the nuts out of that.
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Dec 28, 2019 23:11:25 GMT
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Landrover badge is one rung too high on the grille. And for that reason alone...am oot. I am so glad someone else noted this!
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Dec 27, 2019 19:29:11 GMT
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25P of tape per car....how many millions in damaged reputation? merc were the exact same in the 90s and early naughties..It cost them dear. At least the aluminium bodied XJ's should be a lot more immune to this!
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Dec 27, 2019 18:47:14 GMT
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You wonder what goes through the "engineers" heads. My W210 is the exact same except it gathers and sits on the flat parts...I have removed the plastics and put high quality coatings on...no sign of it resurfacing.
Its a real shame the S type is a great car. You'd have thought by the early 2000s theyd have got a handle on common rot points!!
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Dec 27, 2019 18:42:36 GMT
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She looks ace...I just plastidipped my kidney grills on my touring...It also worked amazing on the black around the aluminium around the door mirrors that always goes.
If your battery is draining that quickly id suggest letting the car go to sleep (16 mins from door closure if i recall) and getting a multimeter on the fuses. Very frequently the culprit for drain like that is the Final stage resistor (or hedgehog) on the climate control panel. I have had to change it on every one I have owned for the same reason. It is accessed by removing the little panel on the left hand side of the drivers footwell and getting skint knuckles!
I know what you mean about the cleaning side of things....I used to detail my cars and be obsessive...since kids came along they are lucky if they get a quarterly wash!
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Dec 21, 2019 18:36:03 GMT
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That is nasty but by no means the worst. Its astounding a relatively modern car can rot so badly.
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Dec 20, 2019 19:09:26 GMT
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Rot rot and more rot..under sill covers and in the arches they are terrible for. nice car to drive though. My mate is an MOT tester and sends me pictures...every S and X type he gets in is rotten as a pear
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Dec 19, 2019 20:09:58 GMT
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Glad to see you are getting on well with the 530d! looks a great example.
Regarding the aux heater, you do have the timer options etc because you have the fancy computer screen so can set all that. the likelihood is that the webasto burner unit that lives behind the NS front arch liner has knackered electrics in it. It is a terrible place for them to live but they are readily available from the e53 x5 where they live higher up.
Also your heating not coming up to temp quickly...does the car get up to normal operating temperature or does it always stay below half? I couldnt get my heaters to work well as the thermostats jam open on these. There is a very easy 10 min fix where you don't have to go near the main thermostat that will see you with toasty hot cabin and normal running temp and improved mpg.
Also checking..have you blanked off the swirl flaps on the inlet manifold on this car? its one of the first things I would do.
The xtrons head unit was ace..all the side buttons work as per the original but you wont get the trip computer on the screen.
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Last Edit: Dec 19, 2019 20:10:58 GMT by grahamk
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Absolutely gorgeous...LOVE IT
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Bme e39 owners groups on facebook are a great source of info and parts...The BM54 amp or traffic master is a culprit of a lot of the issues with these units. I never had one with the factory NAV. If you look at xtrons.com you can get a replacement android headunit that looks completely factory. Great bits of gear. You will need an adaptor cable. I think a guy on e39 owners uk (Simon Garland) who is a bang on bloke had all the gubbins for sale from an original factory nav car for a very reasonable price.
You will also like on the cold mornings that the car has a factory auxiliary heater which means you don't need the engine running to provide heat in the cabin...amazing when you are parked up. It lives in the passenger side wheel arch. If the temp outside is below 4 or 5 degrees (you will need to fix your sensor) press max and it will come on (if it is working)
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Nov 12, 2019 10:02:29 GMT
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You can get the box serviced no problem. Its the torque the autobox cant handle. it was marginal for the car when it was factory standard let alone mapped. I went through 2 boxes in mine. Usually torque converter failure that causes it.
The Boxes really are curse word..still prefer it to a manual
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Nov 11, 2019 13:31:46 GMT
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Style 66 wheels...They are great. Second only to style 65 which are the M5 wheels. I was impressed with the economy..37mpg combined and 42-43 on a run no problems at all. quite rare in black! your rust around the bootlock and rear arch is totally standard. difficult to find on without it
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Thats still pretty good consumption from a 2.5d p38...amazed you were getting near 30mpg. here is my hit list in order of things to check with the m51 bmw engine
1. Fuel filters- if blocked it will make the performance poor and smoke under load 2. Intercooler Hoses- If split or collapsing under load will make noteable smoke and not perform as well 3. EGR system...clean EGR valve or blank off alltogether 4. Injectors..leak off tests 5. Turbo-piece of cake to change on these engines 6. Run a 60/40 mix of veg of diesel/vegoil through it...cleaned my m51 lump right out and it ran sweet as a nut and much smoother..be aware you will probably need to change filters after a few hundered miles if the fuel system is full of curse word.
m51 is a really simple engine and a doddle to work on
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Last Edit: Nov 11, 2019 8:08:16 GMT by grahamk
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High 40s might be a tad optimistic...They are great cars. I have a w123 and a w210. You will see high 40s with an 0m605 turbo diesel swap. also a lot more power, still able to run on svo as well.
I run my om606 engined w210 that has a few good mods on SVO and it couldn't be happier on it. Runs silky smooth
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I have had loads of e39's over the years. And can't see past them. They are great, had lots of newer, more expensive cars than the 39 and I still preferred driving the e39.
The run out models were the best ones. My last was a silver 530d sport touring that I sold last year (beginning to wish I hadn't) as I have noticed prices are on the rise for good ones.
Nice black one that..most of mine were obligatory 90's early naughties silver. The 530d with a map pulls like a train but you need to be careful if its an auto. the GM box is absolute garbage. Its the same box thats in the e53 X5 and td6 L322 range rover..try and find one that hasn't failed.
Thermostats often go but there is an easy 5 min hack to fix them to save you taking off the viscous fan etc. check carefully around the sills as the jacking points they have a real habit of rotting out there.
Looks like a really nice example you have found yourself there!
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Sept 15, 2019 8:09:59 GMT
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Gearbox or TC is on the way out by the sound of it. Have seen a lot of these with knackered boxes
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Sept 14, 2019 6:30:27 GMT
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Cheers for the replies guys! This is purely an idea at the moment.. Have been pondering it over the past few days. I originally wanted to do away with the weird over complex braking system. The suspension setup on a w210 merc estate (which I have as a potential donor for the engine) has SLS rear suspension using the same setup..hydraulic accumulators but for the brakes the whole mechanism etc would be an absolute nightmare to change, so with that in mind my plan is as follows.. Engine: OM606 mercedes with a 7.5mm injection pump and holset HX35 should see it in the region of 350-400 hp (double the standard power) Trans: Either mercedes 722.6 with modified prop to standard rear diff or keep the existing transmission as its good for v12 jags/chevy v8s and use an adapter kit to the OM606 (DPUK sell one but its around 800 quid) this would allow me to retain the column shift. Now the main part...Hydraulics (see diagram) For pure simplicity of conversion, rather than butchering every system in the car, plus i'd like to retain the wafty ride.. The only issue I have is that I would be taking the existing system which has double redundancy (being effectively 2 systems) and reducing it to one. I would take a serpentine driven HP pump from a citroen bx, common up the two low pressure side of the system from the reservoir so there is one inlet to the HP pump, the same would be done on the outlet (HP side) of the pump, one line out, tee off to the two existing accumulators which should in theory run the system just without the double cam driven pump setup. The fact the two accumulators are retained means there should be some degree of redundancy in case of failure . I was under the impression the 2 sets of calipers were just to provide redundancy in case of failure of one side of the system. The hydraualic system uses a special type of fluid (same as citroen I believe) Weight of the car is 1850kg or so...nearly a ton less than my discovery 3 and probably the weight of an average modern saloon. Feel free to pick this apart and expose any problems you think may arise!
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Last Edit: Sept 14, 2019 6:32:18 GMT by grahamk
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Sept 11, 2019 20:39:25 GMT
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I did think about that... The suspension is not really a concern.. It is the mental braking system. The citroens pump deals with suspension only to my knowledge..but that has given me an idea so thanks! I thought about commoning up the two systems so the low pressure side from the reservoir joins in a t piece down to the single inlet to a citroen pump, then the same again at the outlet.. One outlet branching off to the dual systems.would keep it wafting along nicely without mass butchering trying to install master cylinders and servos
Edit just looked and realised I'm talking curse word re the citroens brakes! Never realised they were off the same system.. Its so much simpler. Ah well! Bx pump it is. Cheers!
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Last Edit: Sept 11, 2019 20:51:27 GMT by grahamk
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Sept 11, 2019 20:01:28 GMT
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Thread revival alert! I have an Om606 lying about and a cheap rolls on the horizon.. The only thing that is stumping me about this is that damned hydraulic system. My merc has hydraulic rear sls which in theory could be used.. But the braking has got me completely stumped.
The rolls has 2 hydraulic pumps like injectors run off the cam..seems like it will be a ball ache to replace
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Sept 6, 2019 12:58:18 GMT
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Lovely. I have an avantgarde one the same age and colour but its a damn sight rougher around the edges...goes like stink with a few upgrades!
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