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Sept 16, 2019 10:39:50 GMT
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I always thought the Bookmark feature was more for threads you wanted a permanent reminder of (although the update to the notifications a little while back changed the dynamic of that a bit) It's kind of handy for threads to drop off the participated threads list after a while otherwise you comment on a thread and have no way of ever getting rid of the notifications like posting something in the Spotted thread for example Actually, that's a good point. Although for some reason the notification thing seems indefinite if I read the forum on my phone (rarely cos it's a rubbish way to look at stuff) ... and I don't know how to bookmark stuff
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luckyseven
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Goodwood Revival 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 16, 2019 9:09:02 GMT
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With all due respect, I believe that entrance to such an event with the access-all-area PRESS pass tied around your arm might give one a slightly different experience and rather more positive perspective to someone who's paid a considerable amount of their own money to be there... in the places that they're allowed to be, that is oooh.... ZING! Not zing It's a genuine point, I feel, not just an attempt at cheap point scoring. But it's true, you yourself have explained how difficult it can be to just get around the place. And when you do, you can't get in the paddocks without a pass, can't get in the grandstands without a pass, can't get in the members areas without waiting six years and paying hundreds of pounds... If it was not for the fact my wife is disabled we would not have seen any racing this year because you cannot get anywhere near trackside without a stand ticket and if you do manage to worm your way in, as soon as you need a wee or anything, your space is gone for good. To Goodwood's great credit they provide disabled viewing platforms but year after year with numbers increasing, they're inadequate so I have to stand back out of the way (obviously) because of the wheeled chairs and mobility devices... and no, I'm not complaining about this, clearly, but it's a statement of fact. The disabled accommodation is better than nothing, and token, and takes little account that disabled people have partners too... in fact, more dependably than able-bodied, I'd suggest, since they often need a helper. Anyway, right in front of one of the disabled viewing platforms is a lovely big press area, wide open, great view of the track, loads of room to stand at the fence... in fact, all the things that not even Members get provided for them as a paying visitor. I understand that Goodwood must provide this and I understand the press will not report positively about something if they can't access it. It's simply the way the world is. But it does mean that I stand by my statement that the press will have a different experience because of it to the paying punter. It's not pejorative, it's a simple statement of fact. But I cannot, for example, get on the roof of the pit building and take cool photos of stuff from funky angles because I'm a pleb. I'd love to, but I'm not allowed. I've paid something in the order of four hundred pounds to be there when you take our GRRC Membership into account, but someone who's presumably got in for free gets better access than me. Am I whining? Nope, I simply wish I could do the same. Am I resentful? Nope, because I expect that dbizzle will do exactly what I can't and post excellent photos on the Retro Rides forum after the event. I wish I could, but if I can't I'm happy others can. Even if they seem to deliberately and willfully misinterpret what is said
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Goodwood Revival 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 16, 2019 8:59:23 GMT
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I suppose it's to be expected, given that you always say that. Lovely. OK, I think we're done here. Sheesh, precious much? See, that's the perpetual Catch-22 of RR right there. Those who interpret "positivity" as "cannot discuss anything". Sorry, I thought the mantra was "post cars you like"; if there was a memo about all we are allowed to do is post photos of cars but never discuss them or anything else to do with them, I missed that one. Or maybe it's just that no-one on the internet ever actually reads a post, they pick out the words that suit their own agenda and run with that?
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Goodwood Revival 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 16, 2019 8:44:06 GMT
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Jeez, what a cavalcade of joylessness. I was about to post up some more pics from Sunday, but I can’t be bothered now I think that's a bit strong TBH but I suppose it's to be expected, given that you always say that. Even the most negative of posts have included an upside to them, if you actually read what was said. People love these events and want them to be great, which is why it matters to them when they're not. Why must we be unthinking drones with a rictus grin fixed permanently, incapable of looking at something and saying "that might be better"? If humans didn't want to improve stuff all those races might be a bit less interesting because the cars would never have progressed from Daimler's wooden velocipede and you be watching a dozen self-propelled wicker baskets put-put around barely above walking pace With all due respect, I believe that entrance to such an event with the access-all-area PRESS pass tied around your arm might give one a slightly different experience and rather more positive perspective to someone who's paid a considerable amount of their own money to be there... in the places that they're allowed to be, that is C-Type green 52 d by Nick Liassides, on Flickr Starting to run out of positivity tax photos now
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Goodwood Revival 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 16, 2019 8:31:34 GMT
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I'm out. I've made what I think are a couple of pretty erudite attempts to explain why the Revival annoys me as much as it it entertains, but if all I'm going to get is a somewhat inane "just pretend it's not there" reply to every point offered then I'm not all that interested in wasting time "discussing" the point. I do love it when you arrive at a viewpoint after many years of careful thought and observation and total strangers tell you "you're wrong, you should look at things the same way I do" over the internet However, because this is RR and we must be positive about everything, always, I will offset my appalling negativity with a photo of something nice about the Revival. Have a lovely photo of a Ferrari 350GTO as a penance Ferrari 250GTO grey 62 catch by Nick Liassides, on Flickr P.S. I went to the Revival for the first time in about 12 years on Sunday, it was what I expected it to be, very busy, Twelve years ago? It wasn't very busy. Honestly, try it next year and you might change your mind
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Goodwood Revival 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 15, 2019 22:39:33 GMT
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I get it. You would never find me in fancy dress, and I can see that once the novelty has worn off youd rather ignore it and just concentrate on what you went there for, the cars and the racing. I guess its a victim of its own success, its got so popular that its ended up a little over-inflated. Its also the main reason why J40 fetch soooooo much money now. Still awesome. It is. No argument. It is an awesome thing Yeah, J40s are ludicrous money now. To me that race is one of the most awkward spectacles I've ever seen. Stand near the paddock and overhear the parents and it's ... well, it's just queasy. Mind you, I suppose it's understandable they get carried away; after all, it's one of the very few times they get to see little Mungo or Jemima during term time what with dorm visiting rules being so strict. And you want them to grow up with the correct spirit of competitiveness and not disgrace the old school tie by showing weakness in public no matter how much ritual humiliation you subject them to
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Sept 15, 2019 22:34:44 GMT
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My email went to the correct folder. But I only just found it as I never check my email and for some reason Retro Rides drops you from the list of Participated threads all the time. So unless you happen to see it on a "Recent Threads" tab, you don't even know it's been updated.
Come to think of it, why does it do that? Why not just leave it as one of your participated threads indefinitely?
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Goodwood Revival 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 15, 2019 22:07:48 GMT
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Maybe not every year! Why? That is exactly what I do & it’s fantastic every time. When there are 364 days between one visit & another, how hard can it be Dunno, maybe you just have a high boredom threshold? Or maybe because my opinion is just different to yours? To be brutally honest, I could happily live without the whole fancy dress nonsense because I'm not five years old. I could do without a programme written like a fake washing power advert or like a World Cup revue written by someone who previously wrote Boys Own comics circa 1956. I can do without the hordes of people who know nothing about classic cars and just want to dress up whilst chasing Insta likes. I could live without the stalls selling fur coats and Barbour jackets and hats and anything else made from what was once a living animal and preferably still has the face left on it and the ears poking through the fur. I could do without the coutre outlets and hairdressers outnumbering the car stands. It's too busy, too crowded, too shallow, too much for not "my sort" of people. It makes me angry seeing tools strutting around in military uniform complete with honours when they've never even served. I believe a dress uniform is something that should be worn by someone who's earned the right, not someone who rented it from a costumers. I love the cars and the bikes and the classic racing. It's superb. And the fashionista vibe is fun for about maybe two hours. But because I'm not a simpleton the novelty wears off really fast and TBH I'm just as happy watching the racing on the live feed because at least that way I can see it without some toff fool being in the damn way while explaining to Chloe why the red one is faster than the green one. It's just hard work nowadays. The Members Meeting features the same cars (and because it's Goodwood, they're literally the same cars year after year) but without the ridiculous crush and without having to pretend you're part of a fashion parade that never existed. I wouldn't even mind so much if it was period-accurate. The Revival has just become one of those things that looks infinitely better on Instagram or forum threads than it actually does in real life and the fakeness of it bores me However, for positivity tax, a picture of the stuff I like about the Revival. If you can still find a moment's space amongst the heaving multitude ERA fettlation by Nick Liassides, on Flickr
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Goodwood Revival 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 15, 2019 19:58:44 GMT
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From someone whos never been, I think thats the whole point of it, on TV it appears to be a fully immersive event, with all the bells and whistles, all slapped on as thinly or thickly as possible. Its not just about the racing (which is awesome) its about reviving the golden time of Goodwood, all the fashion and glitz and glamour of it. Everything about it, and your post, makes me more determined than ever to go next year. Yeah, go. You definitely should go. There's genuinely nothing else like it (I suspect) anywhere in the world. It's unquestionably an amazing event and every petrolhead should experience it at least once. Once you've done it a few times though you maybe start wishing for just a simple straight-up race meeting without all the fancy dress and thousands of Tarquins and Jocastas plundering hospitality. But then, I guess it'd just be the Silverstons Classic then. Or the Member's Meeting. But yeah, definitely worth a visit. Just maybe not every year
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Sept 15, 2019 19:55:04 GMT
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I'd call that first attempt at moulding 'glass a qualified success You can build up an aftermarket parts empire from here and then sell it to the Chinese in a few years and retire [/EMPI]
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Goodwood Revival 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 15, 2019 19:16:20 GMT
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Great pictures, as always, D to the Biz For me, the Revival is a bunco booth of lies and tricks. It looks gorgeous... sights and sounds and smells... and it entices you in with the promise of wonders undreamt-of and exotic prizes. Yet you know under the gold leaf and garish colours, behind the wurlitzer, whirlwind sound and vision, it's just sawdust and gesso and illusion. Every year I have an @spookytim2 "never again" moment and every year I go again and wallow in being lied to, revel in the thin veneer that the world is a beautiful place, immerse myself in the glorious lie If ever a picture summed up the Revival, for me it's this one Karussel by Nick Liassides, on Flickr Beautiful ladies in wonderful old garb riding a genuinely antique fairground ride and smiling in the guttering gold of a late autumn sun for the sheer joie de vivre of it. But they're actors, paid by The Duke of Richmond and Gordon's theatre sponsorship scheme to sit on the carousel, to make it seem glamorous, to entice in even the most flinty-hearted of nay-sayers. They're whirling in ever-decreasing circles, going nowhere. And if ever there was a metaphor for the whole sorry of it, there you go
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Salon Prive 2019 [pics]luckyseven
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Sept 15, 2019 19:03:14 GMT
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Voisins rule becos they're mad. They rightly had an entire section of the Style et Luxe dedicated to them this year. Tartan paintjobs, roof chops, interiors to give Pasha an acid trip, full-length sliding sunroofs.... mad. Utterly mad. Especially because that was in the 1930s Lovely photos, thanks as always for posting
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Sept 15, 2019 17:41:01 GMT
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My 2ps worth.... as someone who's daily driven a 450bhp rotary... is that it's a lot of effort to make it work in the first place, even more to keep it working and is not an especially pleasant place to be for any amount of time. I think turbocharging rotaries is asking for paranoia to become your constant black dog
Maybe I just got soft in my old age, though.
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1977 El Caminoluckyseven
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Sept 15, 2019 16:50:08 GMT
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Love this truck and also the Ford in the garage! Is there a thread on here for it? It's Elky's innit? I recognise the... hang on, just wait a dagnabbit minute... Who spliced the Matrix?
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Sept 15, 2019 16:48:48 GMT
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Didn’t finish, but don’t want to lose post... more later Taps fingers in impatience...
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1977 El Caminoluckyseven
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Sept 15, 2019 12:55:28 GMT
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You'd get banned on some forums for having schizophrenic multiple personalities. Anyway, nice pickup. I like this photo, it's good; Looks like it’s gone to the health farm...Another member of this Parish if I had to hazard a guess? Elkys innit? I recognise his lovely stitching
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Sept 15, 2019 7:25:33 GMT
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To be fair, they've commissioned loads of trains whilst I've been driving and they never ask drivers' opinions on them. Once they're running a couple of union clowns on a jolly get to go and have a play on them to approve them. But sine the company's picking up the bar tab there's no way a Union fool is ever going to bat anything back Which is why we always get an ergonomic catastrophe of a cab every damned time becos a) they're designed by ...well, designers and b) it's a well known fact union reps are only union reps because they can't drive trains very well and therefore don't know their radius from their rectum when it comes to working one and how the cab should be laid out
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Sept 14, 2019 16:21:11 GMT
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2) we could go halves on an SP-2, but if we park it halfway that’s Bracknell I almost forgot this... Shared SP-2 by Nick Liassides, on Flickr I googled "Bracknell" but all it came up with was this; "a fictional town invented by Douglas Adams to make the concept of urbane urban hopelessness and service industry wage-slave humdrum seem plausible to denizens of more interesting and less desperately Middle England towns. In actual fact, no such place has ever existed and all claims to hail from, visit, or bypass 'Bracknell' are in fact the result of a bright pink roundabout just outside Wokingham with a Someone Else's Problem Field erected around it" so.... brilliantly crafted master plan. Where actually is my time-share SP-2 then?
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Sept 14, 2019 16:12:42 GMT
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Weird innit, you'd think that RR would be the most Motorpunk of forums yet this thread is forty pages less full than the Pistonheads equivalent. RRers don't read, or too busy welding to bother with magazines? Nick remember it's quality not quantity Good luck a Goodwood - remember no words I can assure you we exchanged no words. Mostly because Goodwood was RAMMED and I had as much chance of tracking down th'Boy Duisberg as I did of the actual Duke of Richmond and Gordon insisting I join him on the patio for high tea And lo and behold, he didn't. How very rude. Not going to one of his shindigs again, doesn't he realise who I am?
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