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Oct 20, 2010 18:53:43 GMT
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Bike engnes in cars. How do you do it? Use the bike's sequential box? What are the "common" choices? Pros and cons? What small V and boxer engines are out there with some poke? The reason I ask, is I am planning a street sleeper Moggy Minor. I was going to use a cologne engine on a type 9 box, but it transpires that without bulkhead cutting this would not be a good combo (nose heavy). So, I am looking at alternative engines for some poke that will not require cutting of the bulkhead. So, what engines are out there that are small enough (chevy and rover V8 do not fit without cutting), that aren't an inline 4 banger (unless it's something special)? Particularly interested in boxer and V engines, maybe bike engnes, I don't want to use K series or Ztech etc, I know they are the obvious choice but if I have to go 4 pot, I want to either go VW (so I can race the VW racing circuits and would probably use a Goof lump) or stick with A series. There's loads of room under there:   |
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fad
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Oct 20, 2010 18:55:06 GMT
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... don't suppose there were ever any transverse mounted RWD set ups out there..?
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Oct 20, 2010 18:55:14 GMT
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what about a rotary?
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Oct 20, 2010 19:00:45 GMT
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2010 19:01:30 GMT by tonka12
97 volvo 940 turbo wagon
87 fiat strada abarth
78 gs1000
82 katana 1100
84 gsx1100 efe
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fad
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Oct 20, 2010 19:00:52 GMT
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Or indeed rotary  Really anyhting that isn't the "norm" and isn't going to need a rats nest or cable chucking in there to make work, preferably something on carbs or a more simple ECU that's not a curse word to make work. |
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Oct 20, 2010 19:03:02 GMT
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how heavy is the minor? no point if it weighs over 600kg
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fad
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Oct 20, 2010 19:05:53 GMT
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Wow Tonka, talk about marmite cars! lol! That thing looks mad as a box of frogs. Not my taste, but I see where you are going with it! Some big fabrication going on there, what thickness steel are you grafting that from? The BIVA man is gonna love you when you rock up with that! What bike was the donor dude?
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Oct 20, 2010 19:07:54 GMT
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how heavy is the minor? no point if it weighs over 600kg With the A series lump and gearbox removed, can't be that far away from 600kg... If needs be a fibreglass flip front could be used (I'd prefer to avoid if I can though). |
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Oct 20, 2010 19:09:31 GMT
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what about the honda vtec? k20 engine with s2000 gearbox maybe?
or toyota engine? not sure on gearboxs tho, but seen it done before
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Nobody dies a virgin, because lifes curse word us ALL
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Oct 20, 2010 19:15:30 GMT
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i'll just leave this here ...
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Oct 20, 2010 19:16:32 GMT
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V-Max engine  |
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Oct 20, 2010 19:17:46 GMT
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use the bike gearbox and its just an adaptor that bolts on to where the front sproket would be and just mount a prop job done.and we are using a honda blackbird    & there was me sitting at work today wondering what sort of conversions people had done to Cinq's.....That's brilliant.  |
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Past: 13 VW Beetles from 1967 - 1974
Bay Window Campers (1973 & 1974)
Mini's (1992 Cooper lookalike & 1984 '25 Anniversary)
MK2 Polo Coupe S (1984 & 1986)
MK2 Polo Breadvan (1981 & 1984)
MK4 Escort (1989)
MK2 Granada Based Hearse (seriously)
Fiat Uno 60S (1986) Punto 60S (1998) Cinq (1997)
1998 Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat
2003 Ford KA
Current: 2004 Ford Focus (barely alive)
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Oct 20, 2010 19:19:39 GMT
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Oct 20, 2010 19:25:00 GMT
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allsorts of steel has gone into it dude the front tub is a modified mk indy and the rear is one off ,power is black bird and hopefully supercharged .rear axel is cossie .
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97 volvo 940 turbo wagon
87 fiat strada abarth
78 gs1000
82 katana 1100
84 gsx1100 efe
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fad
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Oct 20, 2010 19:29:39 GMT
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Cool. That extra steel has gotta weigh some though! What do you think it will tip the scales at when t's done?
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Oct 20, 2010 19:30:04 GMT
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couple of my mates run bike engined caterhams and even in those lightweight cars they say they are not great road vehicles, very hard work if you want to cover any distance but ok for a couple of hours on a sunday afternoon.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Oct 20, 2010 19:30:23 GMT
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how heavy is the minor? no point if it weighs over 600kg With the A series lump and gearbox removed, can't be that far away from 600kg... If needs be a fibreglass flip front could be used (I'd prefer to avoid if I can though). well if your sure,i'd skip the v4 (st1100) flat fours (goldwings) and flat six's (later goldwings) get a sports bike engine like an r1, the r1 is very narrow so you don't have to offset the engine very far to get the driveshaft down the tunnel. height of your bonnet will work for you to clear the r1's air box (needed for power) 600kg is the limit for n/a bike power so get the most powerful engine you can afford! p.s. most watercooled sports bike engines (not the tourers) weight about 65kg |
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2010 19:32:07 GMT by TerraRoot
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Oct 20, 2010 19:37:26 GMT
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were aiming for 600kilos as allready mentioned we have taken alot out though
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97 volvo 940 turbo wagon
87 fiat strada abarth
78 gs1000
82 katana 1100
84 gsx1100 efe
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Oct 20, 2010 19:40:38 GMT
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bout time you stopped welding up rustbuckets and got that cinq finished russ!!!!
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yes ,it started badly ,petered off in the middle and the least said about the end the better!!!
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fad
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Oct 20, 2010 19:41:47 GMT
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well if your sure,i'd skip the v4 (st1100) flat fours (goldwings) and flat six's (later goldwings) get a sports bike engine like an r1, the r1 is very narrow so you don't have to offset the engine very far to get the driveshaft down the tunnel. height of your bonnet will work for you to clear the r1's air box (needed for power) 600kg is the limit for n/a bike power so get the most powerful engine you can afford! p.s. most watercooled sports bike engines (not the tourers) weight about 65kg Not sure, that's the point! Just looking at the options. 65kg, that's a lot lighter than I imagined given there's a cogbox attached! |
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Really anyhting that isn't the "norm" and isn't going to need a rats nest or cable chucking in there to make work, preferably something on carbs or a more simple ECU that's not a curse word to make work. 
