g40jon
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can ebay legally force you to accept paypal? I though paypal was part of the whole ebay company, so surely forcing me to accept paypal can't be legal?
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rysz
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I am fairly sure that unless the gov't say so, they can get away with it. It is their own company and as such can place pretty much whatever conditions on the use of it that they want.
Only place so far to stop this is Australia.
So, write to your MP!
Rysz.
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Last Edit: Jul 8, 2008 13:20:11 GMT by rysz
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ohh thas well wrong ,
have not they made enough money allready ??
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misteralz
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Ach, it'll all backfire on them. Fewer and fewer people I know are selling on eBay ever since they put up fees, forced you to use paypal and removed the ability to give negative feedback. I know I have.
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Darrel
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E-bay is awfull at the moment. My 406 that ended 2 days ago was won by a bidder with no feedback, just joined up and has all fake details. Some kid sodding about. Problem is I cant report him as a non paying as I have to wait 2 weeks and i can only leave him positive feedback. I'm getting less for my items due to the rubbish searching system and I have to advertise cars with a paypal option. God knows what the fees would be on expensive cars. I hope a viable alternative to E-Bay appears soon.
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g40jon
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you can get out of using the crappy new search engine, there is a little link at the bottom you have to click!
yeah ebay are starting to take the curse word, they've monopolised the market so i guess they are pretty untouchable!
they removed my last listing as i put in the listing that the buyer would have to cover the paypal fees if they really wanted to pay by paypal! ebay told me i could not do this, i asked them why they could force me to accept paypal, when they own paypal and they failed to reply
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any one tried ebid.net, unlike ebay they may know what customer service is, though I think they still use the dreaded paypal.
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I "sold" my Breitling watch last week. £1477... great! Winner... or maybe not! New memebr, no feedback, no contact since! Can't leave neg feedback, can't do FVF refund yet, but ebay now won't let me relist it as they seem to think I'm selling something counterfeit as I suppose no-one (other than a watch dealer) would sell 2 rare watches in 1 week. Ass! Edit: Anyone wanna buy a Breitling?  |
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Ebay doesn't require you to accept Paypal here in the states. Not yet anyway. Lots of sellers don't accept PP. Same way in Germany and France, plenty don't take PP.
On my auctions I require reimbursement for PP and CC processing, since I cut the prices on my racing wheels to the bone. They haven't stopped me from doing so in 2 years of advertising these policies in my auctions.
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craig1010cc
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ebay/paypal legal questioncraig1010cc
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you can get out of using the crappy new search engine, there is a little link at the bottom you have to click! Ahhh, thank you for posting that, their ruddy experiment had been driving me nuts |
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only the opt out button takes you back to the start of the new style search.
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g40jon
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Ebay doesn't require you to accept Paypal here in the states. Not yet anyway. Lots of sellers don't accept PP. Same way in Germany and France, plenty don't take PP. On my auctions I require reimbursement for PP and CC processing, since I cut the prices on my racing wheels to the bone. They haven't stopped me from doing so in 2 years of advertising these policies in my auctions. you have it to look forward to then! heres the reply they sent me back after I had mailed them. Hello, Thank you for writing to eBay. I understand that you do not want to list the item by selecting PayPal as a mode of payment. Please note, this new policy is designed to protect purchasers and to improve user experience on eBay - for both sellers and buyers. We have considered this carefully and believe that it is in everyone's interests. Also, starting 3rd June, all sellers on eBay.co.uk must offer PayPal on all their listings. If you want to sell but you don't have a PayPal account, go to www.paypal.co.uk and click "Sign Up". In addition, PayPal must be the sole payment method offered in these cases: 1) Sellers using a 1-day listing format 2) Sellers listing in these categories: - Video Games > Consoles - Consumer Electronics > MP3 Players - Computing > Software - Wholesale & Job Lots > Mobile & Home Phones - Business, Office & Industrial > Industrial Supply/ MRO We'll alert affected sellers in the Sell Your Item form. To learn more about how PayPal protects both buyers and sellers, copy this link into a new browser window: www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_security-center-outsideI hope that this information is helpful and wish you all the best with your future sales on eBay. Kind regards, Hubert Seaver eBay Customer Support |
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Last Edit: Jul 8, 2008 18:40:01 GMT by g40jon
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Go read the Ebay forum, they want rid of all the little people so they can mess about trying to become the next Amazon, selling new stuff from big companies with a few bits of second hand tat thrown in for good measure.
Look at the recent changes? NON are an improvement for normal buyers and sellers, they just make it easier to mess sellers about with ZERO chance of any payback. Shill bidding is a doddle when no one can see the bidders... No chance to at least brand knob's as knob's by leaving a negative.
I put a sat nav on but they wouldn't let me list it less than 5 days (normally use 3 days) because of some counterfit wibblepoo, it's a Tomtom ffs, who fakes them?
I had a listing pulled the day it was to finish because I put (as new) in the title... apparently that's unfair to their big business buddies selling new tat from China.
They have 500,000 listings from a company in the US they are budding up to, bet they aren't paying any listing fees etc.
Basically they want us to go away now we've made them rich enough they think they can manage without us.
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Hmmm. Was just pondering lobbing the Eriba Puck on Ebay but perhaps not!
Have gone right off Ebay anyway. Nowt but trouble with almost everything that I've purchased this year.
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mull
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I used to use ebay lots but am getting really fed up with it. However they have you by the balls as if you want something a bit different / rare then the odds are you will find it there.
That said I bought 3 things this weekend no trouble but I don't sell anymore.
I use classifieds, carboots and freecycle.
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Lawsy
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We just got a message pop up from ebay whilst listing some items, now saying that paypal may hold back money from us when selling items untill positive feedback is received..
surely thats illegal as technically its paypal buying the goods from us, then selling on..
ebay are getting too big for their own good, shame nowhere else has got something similar thats as well known as...
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Go back to paper! Classic Car Weekly FTW! (plug, ahem, plug, cough).
Or, in the interests of fairness, there are sites such as Car and Classic that are gaining in popularity too. There can be life with no Ebay! Possibly a much less dangerous world too!
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I'd heard about the Paypal witholding funds thing. I think it will be this that kills Ebay, to be honest. Who, including big companies, wants to sell stuff that they don't get paid for for 21 days? What if they decide to screw you by leaving neutral feedback- will they get to keep the item and get a refund?
Ebay is a good place to buy at the moment, but I'm unlikely to sell anything on there again.
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mercmad
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NO, ebay cannot force you to use paypal, here in Australia it's a matter for the gov. regulators ( the ACCC ) who have declared paypal to be in breach of the law in that it is acting in a manner which is uncompetitive . That is; it is forcing customers to use their service so they can charge big fees. They were going to bring in their new rulles on the 17th June but were told they would be prosecuted,so they have delayed it until 17th July...when they will try again. It is all about forcing the small seller off and getting larger wholesale /junk merchants online and making more money. It has defeated the entire ebay ethos.
NOW,my Question..."DID I NOT ASK SOME MONTHS BACK IF ANY ONE HAD BEEN NOTICING THE SHYLOCK LIKE BEHAVIOR OF EBAY SINCE THE NEW CEO TOOK OVER? .
I did warn everyone what was coming but was effectively rubbished.
Here,the only alternative auction sites are also trying to overcharge for listing so they are all pretty useless.
Also,many of us have found that you can get around the final listing fees by direct debiting to trusted sellers and viceversa or paying on pickup.
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Were sorry Mercmad!!
I still like ebay, its great for offloading rubbish and buying stuff dead cheap because its been incorrectly listed.
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