very interesting! remember reading about some guy chopping out the centres of a set of steels and flipping them to fit the wheels backwards as it were, giving a wider wheelbase! sounds cool too. wonder if you can do it with alloy wheels and stuff?
Another possibility is to simply use a cutting disc to slice around the rim, although of course this makes it difficult to get it all 100% straight. Id say at the very least you need to mark it out with a surface table and height gauge to give you the best chance of getting the cut straight. I’m struggling to think of an easier way to do it with common tools or machinery tbh.
I've done something similar once before using a cylindrical barrel and used an angle grinder firmly clamped with the cutting disc level, and rotated the barrel as the grinder cut. Got a perfect cut this way.
found that facinating, pardon my ignorance but if I had a set and police stoped me how would they know they where banded the ones
99.999% they wouldn't, unless you'd done some half arzed lash up job which is where the story of them being illegal comes from. If they can see wobbly bands and pidgeon poo welding then they can have you for an "unsafe part" whether banded rims are legal or not.
The principal concern with most things on legality is not whether the average PC Plod is going to spot it but in case you are involved in an accident and your insurance assessor goes to town on the vehicle looking for a reason not to pay out and declare your insurance void. That lad with the 200SX got a fairly public screwing by his insurers, they found a T-piece on a fuel line and concluded he must have been using nitrous and voided his insurance. They also used "evidence" they found by searching UK Nissan web forums to find mention of his car, his mods, the way he drives, etc.
Lets not turn this thread into the predictable debate on "are banded rims legal" and "what happens if you don't declare all your modifications" though...
wooo! has inspired me to go back to my plan to re rim some steels for the kitten.... i think what would be more do able at home with some 10x6 wellers and some original 10x3.5 steelies, and angle grinder, strait edge, vernier, and migwelder.
I would run a set of Slater Banded Wheels [TM]. No problems. They look better engineered than a lot of OEM steelies and it'd be reassuring to know that someone with a bit of noodle about tolerances, machining etc has done it rather than a production-line sort of thing.
Having said that, I'd rather eat my own dung than try and make my own
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Post by oldschoolgeezer on Jan 8, 2007 18:50:02 GMT
Great thread & very informative. I have a pair on the back of my 100e & they always get plenty of comments ;D
Buying a BMW or a Bentley & looking cool is easy, but the credit doesn't go to you.Taking an unloved car that cost £500 & making it good enough to get photos in magazines or stand out alongside cars that cost one hundred times more is a skill reserved for us loonies!
A really cheeky way of doing it is getting 2 sets of wheels, cutting the outer rim off both, the centre out of one, then welding the 2 together. This eliminates any band and means you only have one welded joint which is easier to hide behind the wheel centre. The problem is you are limited on how wide you can make the wheel by the original width of the 2 wheels you cut up. Take my metro wheels for example. If I had used this method the max width I could have achieved was 5” wide (just 1 inch wider than stock) because there simply was not enough material to play with in the centre of the rim (1 inch to be exact).
The method above describes using the inner section of one rim and the outer section of another rim. But, is there any reason why you couldn't use the same method using both inner rim sections from each set. Like this...
This might allow more width on certain styles of steels and I don't think there is any difference in the inner and outer rim construction. The only slight difference would be the lack of a valve mounting point which would need drilling in.
Possible or not? Either way i'd sure like to know.
you could use a rear section to band a rim of the same construction but the tyres would nigh on be impossible to get on as the bead off the tyre should drop into the well of the rim as you fit them the deaper num 1 is the harder they are to get tyres on from that side of the rim, some rims have both sides like number 2 and wouldnt cause any probs IMO