don't blame the banger drivers just yet,mk2 tinas aren't the most strongest car in the world had a couple pretty crap,more likely scrapped or broken for bits the wheels must be worth a few quid?
We're not, don't think we are anyways. We're keen to have the racers know about it though, so if they are offered it, they can be suspicious. and alert the right people, me - the owner - police(for what its worth)!
I suspect thats why the administrator here has neatly mate a new section for stolen classics, so less regular members can see what has been stolen or not recently.
Post by rustingdeathtrap on Jul 24, 2006 21:34:07 GMT
Erm, well.... Just saw this on BSC.
"WELL IVE FOUND IT .IT WAS FOUND IN A GARAGE IN HEYWOOD NOT HAPPY THO ITS F*CKED UP THE SCROATS WAS GOING TO F*CKING RACE IT AND WHAT A MESS THEY HAVE MADE OF IT ON THE GOOD SIDE IS THAT THEY ARE IN JAIL NOW AS ONE WAS ON BAIL ANYHOW SO LADS JUST SHOWS IF THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT CHAIN IT UP"
Post by rustingdeathtrap on Jul 25, 2006 0:10:50 GMT
I really had to think twice about posting that because i'm sick of this whole banger debate.
Its not about banger racers, its about car thieves. You get scum in all walks of life. I know for a fact that theres a scum element in the classic/modified scene. I hear stories all the time of people getting ripped of by garages, buying overpriced/stolen parts, buying restored cars that turn out to be death traps. If your into banger racing and you've got magnetic fingers what better way to fulfill your needs than to go nick a car and destroy it on a track? Its not the fault of the banger comunity, just like its not the fault of the classic comunity that people are selling vin plates on ebay.
I know that its been said on here that if a stolen car is being raced then other drivers should put there cars back on there trucks and go home, but what if the tables were turned, what if we all turned up for CARS next year and someone tells us that that one guy is there in a stolen car or someones turned up in a ringer? Would we all pack up and go home and cancel our show till next year? I don't think we would. Maybe the morall minority might but the show would still go on. I think that what we need to accept is that this scum element exists in all walks of life, always has and always will, and we need to work together together to stamp it out but without alienating other elements of our scene which revolves around old cars, wether classic, modified or bangered.
I don't really know what to say to sum up really so i think i'll just leave it at that. But lets not start ganging up on banger racers just because another sad tale has come to a rather predictable end. Like i said, its not banger racers who steal cars, its thieves, and if banger racing was banned these people would still be nicking cars, only then they'd be joy riding them round the streets and setting fire to them in parks or cutting them up and flogging them on ebay.
soz Rev Dicky D, but look at the situation, we've got 4 cars in the 'nicked car' forum and 3 of them have now ended up bound for the oval, the one that didnt is a fuggin Hilllman Imp. I agree that probably none of these cars were actually nicked by banger racers (except perhaps this cortina), but that is a pretty poor fuggin statistic by anyone's measure.
1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE 1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
The Rev has made some valid points. Yes there is a "scum element" in many of the different facets of the car scene, nobody would argue otherwise. The problem here is that the Banger scene is a fairly tight knit community. Each region, every local track has "known" racers and, it would be fair to say,people know people. Are we to assume that the cars we know were stolen to be raced were raced by people just turning up at the track? Of course not! The people who raced these cars were well known on the scene and having them hold their hands up and declare " i didnt know it was nicked guv" doesnt really cut it does it. How many of the stolen cars that were raced were complete curse word heaps? None. Come on now, yes not all Banger racers are thieves but, for Christ sakes, lets get real here eh? I remember that there was a spate of cars going missing back in the late 80s/90s, granted some were found, some were ringed and some donated parts but some were also stripped and Bangered. FACT. There IS a problem of classic tin being stolen to be raced on the oval. FACT. The Banger community is fully aware that it is going on but cannot or will not do anything about it. There have been plenty of suggestions and not one has been a definitive solution. I think Mr B summed it up better than i ever could, statistics don't lie.
If Typhoo put the Tea in Britain who put the c**t in Scunthorpe?
need to find out the race number of these Mk2 thieves, and publically shame them
what am I saying - they obviously have no shame.
on the banger racing / theives theme: it really is upto the majority of law abiding banger racers, and the racing authorities to weedle out the thieves and BAN them from ever racing the oval again. ASBO them from the racing scene
A guy I know tells me his local track already does require VIN plates in place and a V5 for racing. its policed in a somewhat "patchy" fashion, but its a start. Not rocket science and they've been doing it quite a while apparently.
I think its best if we try not get into too many debates about the rights and wrongs of things in threads about individual cars. I think we need to start (and sticky?) a topic about how we and the banger community can work together to our mutual benefit and address the issue of stolen-to-race cars.