rob0r
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Thanks Jason, I might take you up on that bolt if I can't find another. You should post up some photos of your rides! Sorry Ghee, I'll sort it soon. Been away for a few days and getting the E21 on the road is my number one priority. Today I've done some less than delicate grinding. The steering rack plates get in the way of the gearbox and the back of the sump, so off they went Next, there is a lug on the sump that needed to come off. Looks untidy but I'll sort that when I can find my dremel. Because this engine is fuel injected, I had to fit a return line to the fuel pump. I was hoping just to stick one up between the tanks and it would be done, unfortunately this didn't work. After what seemed ages I dropped the tanks fitted the shiny return line, and to save the hassle of replacing the main line in the future as it looked grotty, I replaced that as well. Ph33r my l33t bending skills I'm a messy worker, but I think it's getting a bit out of hand... Note the new and improved engine crane after my one collapsed on me, on loan from the bodieandoyle collection The 318is engine mounts I had planned on using were looking a bit tired and I was looking at polyurethane mounts but they were more cash than I'd like to spend at the minute. The guys over on E30zone revealed that rs2000 engine mounts from burton do a lovely job when racing with their heavier 6 cylinders. I've ordered a pair for only £24 delivered, when I get these next week I can finally make some mounts for the subframe and bolt the engine in for good.
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Last Edit: Jul 3, 2008 20:21:04 GMT by rob0r
E30 320i 3.5 - E23 730 - E3 3.0si - E21 316 M42 - E32 750i ETC
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pac1982
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?And on the eighth day, god created the Astra GTE.?
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Nice project, really like them wheels!
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Tefal
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hmm looking at that is it possible to put twin lights 1 side of an e21 and single the other?
Might do that for my air intake
Anyone got a single headlamp grill?
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rob0r
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That's why I've done it. I'm not sure if it's staying, but the reason I have one single and one double (big/small like yours) is for an air intake. I do have a single grille spare, but I'm not sure if someone already wants it.
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Tefal
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ahh right if they don't want it and you don't want it ill have it along with the light, and maybe some other bits (should really go look at my e21 not seen itin 3 weeks)
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rob0r
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Jul 15, 2008 23:53:47 GMT
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Subframe engine mountsAfter getting my RS2000 engine mounts I was able to fab up some basic brackets using some box section and my trusty angle grinder. Here's one before cutting. As I needed the engine in the bay and I knew I was going to be doing this solo I made up some dummy mounts which were slotted so they could slide in and out of position without having to move the engine. Once I was happy I made up the slotless proper mounts and the engine sat perfectly according to my tape measure and bubble measure, I bolted them up to the rs2000 mounts. I then tacked them in place and removed the engine (luckily this time there were no engine crane collapses...). Tacked in place That's how I've made my engine mounts. I can weld, but not as well as Bodieandoyle so I've asked him nicely if he can pop over and do a better job than me when finally welding them in properly
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E30 320i 3.5 - E23 730 - E3 3.0si - E21 316 M42 - E32 750i ETC
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rob0r
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Brakeing newsSince the lowly 316 is bottom in the range in spec and power, it didn't need to have very powerful brakes. As well as converting the rear to discs with a 323i rear axle and trailing arms, I'm upgrading the front brakes too. I could of gone with 323i calipers, of which I have plenty in my spares, but I've also gained a pair of volvo 240 vented 4 pot calipers. As well as being 4 pot, it's said that they offer 30% more sweep on the rotors than the 323i calipers. They are also near bolt on upgrades, though a few modifications are needed and I haven't got to them yet. 4 pot volvo vs 2 pot 323i caliper The volvo's cleaned with a wirecup and angle grinder, then a lick of hammerite 323i rotors (sourced for free by the ever kind BnD ), looking worse for wear Much better, wirecup again More brake updates in the near future when my mintex road-race pads arrive and I can bolt them onto the struts, and when I finally go and get a 323i axle off one of my cars!
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rob0r
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Bad news
I'd noticed that my valvecover had not been sitting level since the engine was dropped, tonight I found out why as BnD pointed out there was some tasty cracks running down the head and around the bolt turrets inside. FUBAR'd. Which means all this effort and expense on the engine has been a waste of time. I'm tempted to write off the engine since if the head is cracked there was no direct impact, what else could be damaged?
I could get another M42 or another cylinder head, but they are just as expensive as the more powerful BMW M50 24v 2.5 engines from a 525i... I'm really unsure as what to do. Engine suggestions on a postcard please....
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Ruki
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Buy the 750v12 from the for sale, and put that in
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Tefal
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thats a damn shame, why not just try to source a head off someone? Seems silly to abandon the project after a minor setback (In terms of cost ur probably looking at no more than 200quid) but to change engine for something else I'm geussing would take a lot longer and cost more
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Pull the engine from your other 318is ? Looking good though Rob
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rob0r
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Jul 16, 2008 10:28:38 GMT
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thats a damn shame, why not just try to source a head off someone? Seems silly to abandon the project after a minor setback (In terms of cost ur probably looking at no more than 200quid) but to change engine for something else I'm geussing would take a lot longer and cost more I'm not abandoning the project! It just might be a change in engines. A lot of people have suggested sticking with an M42, and it would be less hassle. But bt just seems a swift kick in the nuts as I'm outlaying another £200-250 on an engine I already have. Plus that would take my spend on M42s to around £500, for that money I'd hope to have more power. I have a few things in my watch list anyway, so I'll see what happens.
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rob0r
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Jul 16, 2008 10:31:35 GMT
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Pull the engine from your other 318is ? Looking good though Rob Cheers! Pulling the engine had crossed my mind, and I did mention I may break to you, but when it came to the crunch last night I can't see it happening. Fact of the matter is I've realised my E30 performs faultlessly no matter how hard I am with it, and breaking my one and only working on the road car wouldn't be in my best interest since I can't say when the E21 will be back on the road.
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Tefal
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Jul 16, 2008 10:51:01 GMT
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I don't know enough about bmw's (even to ive got one lol) to know what sorta value the engines have. However, a good C20XE vauxhall motor will cost u 300+ a manta gearbox for it will cost £150 and a sump from the manta is £150 and that still only gives 150ish bhp.
For a cheap option look at a Zetec and a type 9 to bolt onto it.
As I said CA18DETs are ace little engines, problem with them is the newest one is 18+ years old and because of the type of car they are old of they have mostly been badly abused. Ive budgeted 750quid ontop of the price of engine to give it a proper rebuild, I'm probably looking at 2k once its on a T3 turbo and megasquirt so its not a cheap option anymore. However I do like the look of my E21 lol
At the end of the day depends what you want, if you want a quick cool looking retro rwd car there are plenty of good engines around (volvo, saab, ford, J) if ur a purist then stick with the M42 or M44 engine
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rob0r
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Jul 16, 2008 11:07:26 GMT
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The car the M42 originally came from was an £100 E30 318is, and it looks like the engines with gearboxes go for around £175-250. If you look on ebay and you can get 525i's complete for around £300. Take out the engine and box and weigh the rest in results in a very reasonably priced 190bhp engine.
Flux have reasonably quoted me for a 2.5 engine in this car, so I'm very tempted.
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Tefal
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Jul 16, 2008 11:18:16 GMT
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Go for that then, 525 for 300quid, chuck the m42 in the boot and weigh it in
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rob0r
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Jul 20, 2008 20:36:30 GMT
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I've sourced my victim... travelled down to Gatwick airport this afternoon to pick up this beaut, 2.5 24v BMW 525i. Engine will be out sometime next week, and then I'll drop it in to see how it all looks in the E21.
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Tefal
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Jul 20, 2008 20:58:22 GMT
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good work!
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Jul 20, 2008 21:41:30 GMT
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woo
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DutyFreeSaviour
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Jul 22, 2008 13:14:04 GMT
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Bloody Hell ......... switched more times than a hoores knickers! Shittzo news on the motor Rob. Hope the 525 provides the antidote to the latest set back. Good luck with it John
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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