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Aug 23, 2023 10:16:28 GMT
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I’ve checked the TFL website with the registration for my 4 litre petrol Toyota FJ cruiser and it’s exempt! ⛽️
Cheked my old original 1.7 Ford Puma and this is not exempt!
Same with my old Caterham & some cars I’ve owned which are still on the road are not even recognised by their site. Bit hit and miss if you live in this zone, what a nightmare.
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melle
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Aug 23, 2023 10:25:14 GMT
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The Bath CAZ only applies to commercially used diesel vehicles.
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Last Edit: Aug 23, 2023 10:28:32 GMT by melle
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Aug 23, 2023 11:34:08 GMT
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The Bath CAZ only applies to commercially used diesel vehicles. At this point in time yes. Though, IMO, if you are not a resident you need to be desperate or lost to be driving in central Bath anyway (park ‘n ride FTW!). Bristol is more of a problem though as it’s LEZ extends a fair way west and includes a sections of the A4 and A3029, which is catching people out. LEZ applies to pretty much all diesels to approx 2015, so that’s things less than 10 years old.
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Last Edit: Aug 23, 2023 11:41:33 GMT by vitesseefi
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melle
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Aug 23, 2023 11:48:17 GMT
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Though, IMO, if you are not a resident you need to be desperate or lost to be driving in central Bath anyway (park ‘n ride FTW!). Completely agree. I'm hoping the current CAZ will be upgraded soon, or even better, for all motor vehicles to be banned from driving in central Bath altogether. It would make the city centre a much nicer place for everyone.
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www.saabv4.com'70 Saab 96 V4 "The Devil's Own V4" '77 Saab 95 V4 van conversion project '88 Saab 900i 8V
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Aug 23, 2023 15:18:31 GMT
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I've just checked my cube and surprisingly, it's exempt. Tbh that doesn't make alot of sence but it also doesn't make it any more likely that I'm going to actually drive into London unless I really really have to. But at least I can drive within the m25 without too much risk.
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ChasR
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Aug 23, 2023 15:25:44 GMT
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Seems it.
Adding bike lanes into other cities has helped them evade a LEZ charge. Coventry is one example.
However, it will only be a matter of time.
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Aug 23, 2023 20:54:14 GMT
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tofufi
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Aug 23, 2023 20:57:05 GMT
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At least they proof read it first. I'm looking forward to all the people buying used porches...
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Now we just need to convince all the younger folks that instead of getting a brand new car on HP, they should get a loan then buy a classic car and have it rebuilt for modern daily use. Someone clever should work out new vs rebuilt classic prices and how much city people could save, see if it actually does pan out how it looks on the surface
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Now we just need to convince all the younger folks that instead of getting a brand new car on HP, they should get a loan then buy a classic car and have it rebuilt for modern daily use. Someone clever should work out new vs rebuilt classic prices and how much city people could save, see if it actually does pan out how it looks on the surface Depending on the outcome of the White case, with a potential saving of over £4000 a year just for the pleasure* of being able to drive your own car it makes sense to buy something registered historic if you have the ability to look after it or are paying reasonable sized bills for servicing and repairs already, after all cars were built to be used. Let's not forget we are talking about 2016 pre euro 6 diesels that are being charged that so hardly the oldest and most polluting vehicles to quote their advertising which still have a decent residual value elsewhere in the country. Theres been a reasonable amount of interest in historic registered vans as tradesmen have realised just how much is going to cost them when you add on the diesel parking surcharge etc etc.
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tofufi
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Last Edit: Aug 24, 2023 9:20:52 GMT by tofufi
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People seem to think it's all about old cars but 8 years old is hardly ready for the scrap heap.
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ChasR
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Aug 25, 2023 16:28:41 GMT
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Now we just need to convince all the younger folks that instead of getting a brand new car on HP, they should get a loan then buy a classic car and have it rebuilt for modern daily use. Someone clever should work out new vs rebuilt classic prices and how much city people could save, see if it actually does pan out how it looks on the surface To be fair, it will only be the haves who are in a position to do both of your outcomes . It's a perfect storm of: -Higher interest rates on loans -Higher mortgage rates -Higher bills in general -Pricier insurance : My insurance did not come down on my daily, despite me transferring over 12 years NCB from my M3 onto my daily policy. I dread to think what youngsters are paying ; I know some figures are stupid, unless they have a black box fitted, along with a dashcam. -Less acceptance for loans, despite having good credit ratings -Higher HP prices, compared to before, due to brand directions (i.e chase pricey cars, not cheaper ones), as a result of part shortages. For the reasons why. The 'smart' money would go to 00s petrols, which for now, are still reasonable to buy. Parts can be tricky to some, like my dad's Saab, but it could yield some bargains. The sum to save is interesting. For my brother-in-law, his usage of his current Euro 5 car will cost him £3000 a year. That sum (assuming petrol prices stay stable) is enough to consider most Euro 3 or 4 petrol cars, assuming the former aren't too rusty.
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ChasR
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Aug 25, 2023 16:31:10 GMT
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A very interesting paper. I suppose this is why Eu6 b, c, and d (and now df) have come in. The testing would be interesting to see on those later levels, and not just the initial EU6. The Europeans have the LEZ zones set to Euro 1 petrols and 4 diesels, bar some cities of interest, but they have had the zones in play for longer.
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Aug 26, 2023 15:56:16 GMT
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Aug 27, 2023 10:55:33 GMT
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I think this is the third time the Faily Fail has done this article.
its only bad having the uninformed public jumping on it. The first time the rolling historic tax exemption got stopped (when it was 25 year exempt) was because the press went on and on about "how to legally dodge paying road tax" and the government fixed it at 1972 for years until the 40 year rolling exemption was introduced.
I can see if this keeps on coming up in the news that the govt. might withdraw the exemption.
That said there are so many drawbacks to owning a 40+ year old car if you are a "civilian motorist" used to a 4 year old one I can't see that many people taking it up.
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