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The page had been updated by April 17th last year to reflect the change from 1978 to 1979, it may well be that things are just as busy (the web archive only took one snapshot on Mar 18th, and another on Apr 17th, so no way to see when it actually changed). As the jumping tax exemption date is automatic, not something that's announced in each budget, it should still have happened - I can't imagine anyone would be spending time rescinding stuff like that at the moment.
I just went to the PO with mine on April 1st when it became exempt, no need for an extra form, just handed over the v5, the lady changed the status, sent the V5 off and gave me 12 months free VED.
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dragon
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Aug 10, 2021 11:56:33 GMT
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Yep, automatically exempt if you have changed the status to historic vehicle to get free tax. If it wasn't MOT exempt you wouldn't be able to tax it even for free I think as you can't tax a car without a valid MOT. James So I recently went to the Post Office to tax my MOT exempt car. First registered 01/08/81. I'd filled in the MoT exemption form which I produced. My MOT expired in June 2021. I received all my paperwork back including the exemption form and my V5c. My car is now taxed but my MOT status has not changed. So as it's still showing as MOT expired am I allowed to drive it?
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bazzateer
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Aug 10, 2021 15:34:05 GMT
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Corsairs never had parking lights. Parking lights are the older name for sidelights.
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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Aug 10, 2021 17:21:55 GMT
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as far as am aware you have to fill in a v112 form at post office to get mot exemption ,here its a v112 n ireland , i went to do it again for adrians triumph vitesse this year they wouldn t put in through i had to fill in v112 ni again yearly as if it went to mot , i argued that that was wrong lady in post office says computer says no fill in v112 ni again computer now says yes ____
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Aug 10, 2021 17:33:03 GMT
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My car is now taxed but my MOT status has not changed. So as it's still showing as MOT expired am I allowed to drive it? When you look at it on the vehicle enquiry (or perhaps the MOT history) page, is the "MOT Expired" box red or green? If it's green, I believe that means that it's OK. In any case, if it's over the age for MOT exemption, then it's exempt unless it's not radically modified. I've never filled in the form, and mine has automatically gone exempt. After the first year, when I renew VED it asks me to confirm that the vehicle isn't modified.
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Aug 10, 2021 18:09:21 GMT
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My 69 MGB's MOT has run out and showing MOT expired and in red, same thing happens with my 55 Chevy when I don't get round to MOTing it.
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Aug 10, 2021 18:13:28 GMT
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Yep, automatically exempt if you have changed the status to historic vehicle to get free tax. If it wasn't MOT exempt you wouldn't be able to tax it even for free I think as you can't tax a car without a valid MOT. James So I recently went to the Post Office to tax my MOT exempt car. First registered 01/08/81. I'd filled in the MoT exemption form which I produced. My MOT expired in June 2021. I received all my paperwork back including the exemption form and my V5c. My car is now taxed but my MOT status has not changed. So as it's still showing as MOT expired am I allowed to drive it? Did you have to pay for the tax and does it show as Historic Vehicle on the V5, I was under the impression that they became historic the following April, so yours would be April 22, I could well be wrong though
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Aug 10, 2021 18:57:02 GMT
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So I recently went to the Post Office to tax my MOT exempt car. First registered 01/08/81. I'd filled in the MoT exemption form which I produced. My MOT expired in June 2021. I received all my paperwork back including the exemption form and my V5c. My car is now taxed but my MOT status has not changed. So as it's still showing as MOT expired am I allowed to drive it? Did you have to pay for the tax and does it show as Historic Vehicle on the V5, I was under the impression that they became historic the following April, so yours would be April 22, I could well be wrong though THAT IS RIGHT MY FISATA WAS 40 ON 2ND JULY BUT WOULDN T BE EXEMPT MOT OR THA TILL THE NEW FINICIAL STARTING APRIL 1ST NEXT YEAR
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So I recently went to the Post Office to tax my MOT exempt car. First registered 01/08/81. I'd filled in the MoT exemption form which I produced. My MOT expired in June 2021. I received all my paperwork back including the exemption form and my V5c. My car is now taxed but my MOT status has not changed. So as it's still showing as MOT expired am I allowed to drive it? Did you have to pay for the tax and does it show as Historic Vehicle on the V5, I was under the impression that they became historic the following April, so yours would be April 22, I could well be wrong though As I understand it, MOT exemption begins when the vehicle is 40 years old, VED exemption begins on April 1st of the year after that.
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Aug 11, 2021 13:43:42 GMT
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Did you have to pay for the tax and does it show as Historic Vehicle on the V5, I was under the impression that they became historic the following April, so yours would be April 22, I could well be wrong though As I understand it, MOT exemption begins when the vehicle is 40 years old, VED exemption begins on April 1st of the year after that. that is i believe correct, it worked for my 1st August 1980 registered TR7V8 last year, MOT exempt on 1st August, tax exempt April this year, for the MOT I just taxed it online and ticked the exempt box then for the tax took the filled in reg doc to the post office all worked like clockwork. Only slight correction is cars registered in the 1st week of the year can be declared historic in the April of the same year. So for instance my range rover which was registered on the 1st January 1987 will be historic and tax free in April 2027. ( assuming it isn't banned on green grounds before then)
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Last Edit: Aug 11, 2021 13:44:40 GMT by kevins
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dragon
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Aug 12, 2021 14:13:51 GMT
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So having just got off the phone to DVLA..... Fuming. Although my vehicle is registered 01/01/1981 they have no date of manufacture from the manufacturer.? This, to them, means that they assume there isn't one and calculate it to the end of the year, 31/12/2021. So I asked am I MOT exempt on 01/01/2022. NO According to them I become MOT exempt on 01/01/2022
So is the. Gov.uk website correct in stating You do not need to get an MOT if The vehicle was built or first registered more than 40 years ago.
As of yet I have not found anything in print to explain taxing an MOT exempt vehicle even if you have to pay for the VED(tax)
Mind you it's the first time I've ever taxed a vehicle with no MOT. DVLA, say that I should complain to the Post Office about this.
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Last Edit: Aug 12, 2021 14:59:05 GMT by dragon
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Aug 12, 2021 17:23:18 GMT
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Here's the full thing on the .gov web site: www.gov.uk/government/publications/historic-classic-vehicles-mot-exemption-criteria/historic-classic-vehicles-mot-exemption-criteriaAs soon as it's been registered for more than 40 years, it's MOT exempt as long as it's not substantially modified. I haven't done it the way round that you are either - when my cars became VED exempt, the MOT exemption was still set at pre-1960 vehicles. But there's no mention of it on that page. It's not the first time that someone at the DVLA - including the person who writes their blog, by the way - don't understand the actual law. For example, their site used to say (and might still say) that if your car fails an MOT you're not allowed to drive it, even if your previous certificate still has some time on it. Of course, that's not true either, unless it fails on something that makes it dangerous to drive, a detail that wasn't mentioned by the DVLA. When you check your MOT status on the vehicle enquiry page (NOT the MOT history page) what colour is the background? If it's green, that's the same as my car which hasn't been MOTed since 2019 because it's exempt. On the MOT history page, the background is red but it does have a note that says it may be exempt. As I've ticked the box on renewal at least once, it's a pity that it can't show that it definitely is exempt, but I guess that IT upgrade is probably being worked on somewhere.
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Last Edit: Aug 12, 2021 17:26:15 GMT by droopsnoot
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dragon
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Aug 12, 2021 17:58:26 GMT
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Hers the reply from DVSA concerning the same question.
Thank you for your email concerning V112 exemptions.
The DVLA operate the Vehicle Check service, so you will need to contact them for advice on the information displayed on it
However, under new legislation that came into effect on 20 May 2018, certain vehicles constructed or first registered more than 40 years ago are now exempt from MOT testing, unless they have been substantially changed.
As long as the DVLA have a date of manufacture/first use on the vehicle record which shows the vehicle is over 40 years old, the on-line tax renewal system and other enforcement systems should automatically pick up that the vehicle is MOT exempt
Tax check reveals as at today Vehicle is TAXED MOT expired 10/06/21
MOT check as at today MOT expired "may be exempt" click on link takes you to the V112
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Aug 12, 2021 21:35:59 GMT
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So having just got off the phone to DVLA..... Fuming. Although my vehicle is registered 01/01/1981 they have no date of manufacture from the manufacturer.? This, to them, means that they assume there isn't one and calculate it to the end of the year, 31/12/2021. So I asked am I MOT exempt on 01/01/2022. NO According to them I become MOT exempt on 01/01/2022 So is the. Gov.uk website correct in stating You do not need to get an MOT if The vehicle was built or first registered more than 40 years ago. As of yet I have not found anything in print to explain taxing an MOT exempt vehicle even if you have to pay for the VED(tax) Mind you it's the first time I've ever taxed a vehicle with no MOT. DVLA, say that I should complain to the Post Office about this. This a copy ofvthe eligability text from the government site. "If your vehicle was built before 1 January 1981, you can stop paying vehicle tax from 1 April 2021. If you do not know when your vehicle was built, but it was registered before 8 January 1981, you do not need to pay vehicle tax from 1 April 2021." Looks like you spoke to an idiot at the dvla! I'd just go to the post office with the docs they seem to have more idea than the dvla. It also clearly says the mot exemption starts when it is 40 years old.
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Last Edit: Aug 12, 2021 21:39:07 GMT by kevins
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dragon
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Been to the Post Office and did it . DVLA reckon I should complain as they should not have been allowed to tax my car even with a V112 declaration and should complain to them. I now have a case number with DVLA after complaint but they keep trying to deflect it to me wanting tax exemption. DVLA said they would cancel my tax. Now that my car is SORN, very quickly I might add I'll try again online. Can anyone find it in writing the procedure for MOT exemption but still paying VED.
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dragon
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It would be a far simpler system if when a vehicle reached 40 years that it went MOT and TAX exempt. All done in one go and most people could probably understand it.
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