Philip
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Wondering if anyone else has encountered problems with obtaining an age-appropriate registration recently - I have an old Land Rover which was owned from new by a garage business and, as was common back then, was run on trade plates as a “recovery vehicle” to avoid paying road tax.
It was first registered at about 18 months old (the actual build date has been confirmed by the BMIHT) and got a then-current suffix registration - with evidence of its build date, I requested an age-appropriate plate (rather than the current one, which makes it look two years younger than it is). The DVLA are saying that because their procedures haven’t changed in the last 40 years, it wouldn’t get an age-related plate even if presented in similar circumstances today (which is surely wrong, as age-related plates became a thing in 1983 and there was no question of it being declared new upon first registration).
Anyone experienced similar?
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Last Edit: Jan 6, 2020 16:53:52 GMT by Philip
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I would think what you have is correct, its a registration number for when the car was registered not when the car was built, you find lots of cars from the 70s/80s that hung a round for ages before they were sold and registered meaning the registration date has no bearing on when the car was built
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Philip
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That situation remains the same - if a car is declared new upon first registration, it gets a current registration (hence stuff like the Ledbury Maestros). This is more like the situation where a used car imported pre-August 1983 would have been given a current registration, rather than the age-appropriate one it would get now.
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Last Edit: Jan 6, 2020 22:20:27 GMT by Philip
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Phil H
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Buy the cheapest private plate with the correct year suffix on it? Be quicker, easier and cheaper than getting DVLA to change their ways, especially when they’ve done nothing wrong as I see it.
The registration number is just that - a REGISTRATION number, with a date indicator if post-63, not a build number. It indicates the rough date of registration.
I’m not sure I see the issue unless it’s trying to save £280 a year on tax because it’s not tax exempt when others made the same year are? In which case they HAVE changed their minds as they used to accept date of build for Historic Vehicle status but don’t any more.
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Last Edit: Jan 7, 2020 5:41:54 GMT by Phil H
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Philip
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The tax/MOT exemptions aren’t really of consequence, I’d just like it to have a registration reflecting its true age (as would the DVLA, if I tried to make any other car look two years younger than it is) - I’m just a bit confused by the contrary approach of the DVLA, when evidence of build date is enough to get an age-appropriate plate on vehicles which have previously lost them, same for things which have been built up from parts etc.
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kenb
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If your suffix plate had been incorrectly issued at the time, then you would deffo have a case. But as it stands with yours I don't think it was, as no dating was given at the time of first registration.
Having said that:
I've had cars that had their plates sold many years ago and then incorrectly issued by the local offices of old with ******A format plates when they should have been the non significant, non transferable age related 3 numbers 3 letter format. You used to be able to get them changed as I did, but I think now the local offices have gone, its now a difficult thing to get changed/sorted without a club and official dating help. I have been reading a few stories of late of how DVLA seem to less co operative of late. So I'd suspect staff changes/lack of knowledge or even policy changes maybe at the forefront of this.
Try sending the FBHVC an email explaining the situation and see what they suggest. I know that even they are having problems just getting meetings with the DVLA reps atm.
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