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nomad Posted a lot Posts: 2,948	Improving garage security - Henderson door nomad @nomad
	Dec 26, 2019 13:50:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi folks. I'm looking for suggestions about improving the Henderson locks fitted to a Retro up & over Merlin Mk2 garage door. The garage is a simple lock-up with single-point-locking up & over door, no side door etc so locking the main door from inside is not an option. I'd like to replace the existing T-handle with something that can't be forced open. Changing the door for a new multi-point locking version would be nice but isn't practical, unless anyone knows of a place the sells an upgrade kit? In the past I've replaced similar handles with high security versions from a company called BiLock www.q-locks.co.uk/bilock/ but they don't list garage door handles in the current catalogue. Does anybody know of a UK stockist ? Henderson flush "Anti-vandal" locks look decent www.garagedoor-spares.com/item/henderson-antivandle-lock-lift-handle/ A pop-out lock might be an option www.lockandkey.co.uk/p/99-winlock-personnel-pop-up-garage-handle/ I don't know what types of handle are interchangeable. Any ideas? Additional security is on the list : Favorite so far are Enfield bolts codringtons.com/shop/catalog/all/e/egar.html Is it an option to add additional locks from a roller-door? www.garagedoor-spares.com/item/gliderol-roller-garage-door-lock-handle-new-5/ All suggestions & comments welcome ! Pics as payment
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Laters Club Retro Rides Member Head Droid Builder and Bottle Washer Posts: 123 Club RR Member Number: 115	Improving garage security - Henderson door Laters @laters Club Retro Rides Member 115
	Dec 26, 2019 15:22:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I've got Enfield garage door bolts on both my up and over garage door and also on the side entry door too. (fitted top and bottom to the side entry door rather than the sides as normal with a up and over). The locking bolts from the enfield door bolts on both my up and over door and on the side door are that long they go well past the door frames and into the structure of the garage. Also got a garage door defender bolted to the floor for the up and over door. Don't think I need the garage door defender as well as the door bolts but fitted the garage door defender while I was waiting for the keyed alike sets of Enfield garage door bolts to arrive so I only needed the one key for both sets of the garage door bolts.
	Last Edit: Dec 26, 2019 16:32:01 GMT by Laters Club Retro Rides Gti Member Garage Queen, 1987 Quantum Saloon

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dog Part of things Posts: 47	Improving garage security - Henderson door dog @dog
	Dec 26, 2019 15:56:47 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Same here, single up and over enfield type locks each side, clasp and padlock at the bottom and standard centre lock fitted


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Dez Club Retro Rides Member And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up. Posts: 11,712 Club RR Member Number: 34	Improving garage security - Henderson door Dez @dez Club Retro Rides Member 34
	Dec 26, 2019 16:21:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Up and overs are comically easy to break into. 10 seconds max if you know what you’re doing on a door with a standard T-handle. Even with other deterrents you’re maybe up to 30 seconds. If you have extra deterrents like a defender on there anyone who wants to gain entry will just ignore the lock and pull the whole door off it’s runners and lay it down still locked up. I’ve even seen the entire frame pulled out of the garage with the door still in it with minimal noise in less than a minute. To actually keep one secure you need locks top and bottom if not all 4 corners. Only thing is that kinda alerts any nefarious individuals that it’s a target worth going for if someone has invested in that level of security. It is really very difficult to make them properly secure to anyone remotely determined to gain entry.
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stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,836 Club RR Member Number: 174	Improving garage security - Henderson door stealthstylz @stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member 174
	Dec 26, 2019 22:39:13 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I did the security for my mates one that withstood 3 or 4 break in attempts - had a 3x3" steel box section bolted vertically to the end walls, coach bolts through with 8mm plate on the inside for reinforcement. Into that I cut some slots about 12" from top and bottom, so you could slide some 3x2 thick wall box section in that sat into a U channel I bolted through the door (like those old wooden beams you dropped down on castle doors) with big padlocks at the end so they wouldn't come out with deflecter plates over the lock to prevent angle grinder/bolt cropper access. I had the U channels on the doors opposing each other so you couldnt crowbar the middle out and also fitted some rubber matting to fill the gaps in-between the horizonal box sections and door out as their first attempt (wrapped a load of seatbelt round the box section then were going to pull at it with a nicked Land Rover) was only thwarted by a both barrels whistling past their ears. It wasn't particularly expensive to do but fairly time consuming.


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fiestaholic Part of things Posts: 165	Improving garage security - Henderson door fiestaholic @fiestaholic
	Dec 26, 2019 23:48:43 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	www.locksonline.co.uk/Garage-Door---Shutter-Locks/Garage-Door-Locks-/Asec-Garage-Door-Lock.html a set of these would help


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meaningreen Part of things Posts: 112	Improving garage security - Henderson door meaningreen @meaningreen
	Dec 27, 2019 19:22:56 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	If possible engineer something discreet. A row of lock ups got targeted nearby: only the ones with additional security were broken into.


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nomad Posted a lot Posts: 2,948	Improving garage security - Henderson door nomad @nomad
	Dec 27, 2019 20:04:40 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thanks everyone ( esp Dez stealthstylz ) for the info & advice. I've ordered a pair of Asec/Enfield bolts form the fiestaholic link above (£30 inv p&p), will get them fitted and keep looking at other options
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