colc
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I know this has probably been answered before but.................Reliant Scimitar chassis and mechanics [all as it came out of the factory] with a completely different body on it [really well done, but in no way resembling a Scimitar, and still registered as a Scimitar...what's the legal position?
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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It's not a BIVA issue - that would be a rebody You'd take a pic of the scimi as you buy it, then chisel off the body and have a bonfire then take a piccy of the chassis stripped then take a pic with your new body on it - and submit the whole lot to the dvla as a rebody - car gets inspected (must be complete) and your v5c is amended to suit - it's what my current pile of bits is going to be, but with a different engine and box if you need a dirt cheap, registered se6 rolling shell - do drop me a line  kfw |
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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colc
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It's already been done...this is the beast in question.......  |
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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that's not an unmodified chassis though is it? |
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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colc
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Apparently, it is..........but I will ask the question.........
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Phil H
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BIVA query............Phil H
@philhoward
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that's not an unmodified chassis though is it? Doesn’t look like it from that picture. Missing the front 6-8 inches, the side rails and I’d expect to see more poking back past the wheels too... |
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Phil H
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BIVA query............Phil H
@philhoward
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Apparently, it is..........but I will ask the question......... Based on that picture alone, I’d expect to need a BIVA so a reasonable question. If it’s been “built” assuming it’s just a rebody of the un-modified chassis, then expect a lot of work.. |
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Phil H
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BIVA query............Phil H
@philhoward
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Sample plicture so you can guess how much chassis is missing..  |
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colc
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I think you're right...I'll pass, in that case.......
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That is NOT a rebody!
Chassis has been chopped off.
Would take a ton of work to get it through the BIVA, stay clear and just build your own dream, not somebody else's nightmare.
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Ritchie
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BIVA query............Ritchie
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I'm all for a build like this but it seems a shame to chop up a Scim.  |
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Jan 31, 2020 16:36:46 GMT
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thats a substantial chassis on them schmitares jeez
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Jan 31, 2020 18:58:01 GMT
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if its been done for ages would it need a biva
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Tell us what "ages" is and we can tell you.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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If you had a picture of it at a show or on your drive from 5 or 6 years ago proving it was built before the new rules came in is what i meant by ages.
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Sorry, mistook you for the OP.
Anyway SVA came in in 1998 so 5 or six years is of no use whatsoever. You would need better evidence than a photo as well. Tax discs and MOT's are usual.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Darkspeed
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BIVA query............Darkspeed
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Sorry, mistook you for the OP. Anyway SVA came in in 1998 so 5 or six years is of no use whatsoever. You would need better evidence than a photo as well. Tax discs and MOT's are usual. The MOT tax etc. proof was way back at SVA introduction when there was the "amnesty" but not anymore. Prior to SVA the process was less stringent but was still in place with Q plates from the early 80's. Any car found to be illegally registered like that rod on a Scimitar logbook requires BIVA now. However as the DVLA/DVSA are only reactive when the computer see's an anomaly the chance of getting found out is quite slim. It's only if it was all discovered during a bad accident that things could get quite tricky. Couple that with the confusion around VHI and MOT exemption and chances are that anything dubious on a 40 year old logbook will never see any sort of official inspection which could raise suspicion. |
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Apols, I thought there was some slack cut for vehicles that pre-dated SVA re "grandfather" rights.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Phil H
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BIVA query............Phil H
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If a “car” has been off the road for a long time, expect it to be inspected when a new log book is applied for.
No grandfather rights as far as I’m aware (although VHI I think mentions 40 years) - cars heavily modified in the 80’s are losing their logbooks (identity).
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Couple of quotes from Kapri (Kev)
Past experience with claiming Grandfather rights has always been about proving that the vehicle as NOW has retained how it was built back then. Onus of proof on owner to show that fact NOT DVLA to prov eotherwise.
The proof they require is fairly straightforward.
In the case of a vehicle registered as one thing but looking like another they require MOT(s) prior to 98 that describ ethe vehicle as it APPEARS not how it is registered.ie an MOT should say Cobra NOT Jag convertible.
Dvla should have been notified of relevant items as listed in changes section.
Vehicle should have an actual taxation history ie just because 'you' fitted a 7 litre engine prior to 1998 but its never actually been finished won't cut it.
Best of all woudl be a feature . Also dated certified photos can help the case.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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