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One strange thing I discovered today while re-assembling a VW Up! door then testing the window operation, is that you could only operate the passenger side front window from the passenger door switch - there wasn't one on the driver's side to operate it!
Rather annoying if you want a through-breeze in summer, I imagine...
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reliantreviver
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"It will be getting fixed up come summer..." (year undefined)
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You say passenger door. The Germans say drivers door. Simpler not to define it with LHD and RHD arrangements!
Brother just ordered a new Fiesta ST and was telling me how basically you have a limited selection of option packs, which is as already mentioned to do with emissions testing repetition.
Nice to know that I'm not the only one who excitedly went to "order" their Dacia Duster only to find they had doubled the ticket price with the spec.
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Current: Reliant "750" Super Robin, Scimitar SS1s - 2 x 1300, 1 x 1600, 1 x 1800ti. 76 years off the road between them! Also - Mitsubishi Galant Sport and Hyundai Coupe Gen3
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cjhillman
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Just reading a book and in it they’re driving a “government” vehicle (its a Jack Reacher novel) which got me thinking about a Volvo 264 Deluxe my mother had, it was really quite basic when compared to the GLE, so do any manufacturers still do a bog standard motor with wind up windows, no sunroof etc etc ?? My first patrol car was a 1.0 fiesta - vinyl seats were lovely and sweaty in the summer but were easily wiped clean when some drunk puked in the back - rubber floor instead of carpet was also appreciated in those circumstances I remember my local ford dealer having 10 bright yellow escorts at really cheap prices - a cancelled BT order apparently 1.1 engines - vinyl seats and not even a radio featured in the shortest spec list I have ever seen - from memory they put some “sol” stickers an a pin stripe down the sides and advertised them as special editions I guess these must have been Mk3 Escorts then? Would kill for one like that haha. Mine is pov spec but being an 85’ has things like glove box , cloth seats and parcel shelf... makes it easier to use haha
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I beleive the Lada Riva pick up is pretty basic... And less than £6,000 new. Of course you can't buy them here. Seriously, I NEED one (probably just the little 3 door though. What's stopping me getting one, anyone know?
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Just reading a book and in it they’re driving a “government” vehicle (its a Jack Reacher novel) which got me thinking about a Volvo 264 Deluxe my mother had, it was really quite basic when compared to the GLE, so do any manufacturers still do a bog standard motor with wind up windows, no sunroof etc etc ?? My first patrol car was a 1.0 fiesta - vinyl seats were lovely and sweaty in the summer but were easily wiped clean when some drunk puked in the back - rubber floor instead of carpet was also appreciated in those circumstances I remember my local ford dealer having 10 bright yellow escorts at really cheap prices - a cancelled BT order apparently 1.1 engines - vinyl seats and not even a radio featured in the shortest spec list I have ever seen - from memory they put some “sol” stickers an a pin stripe down the sides and advertised them as special editions My mk2 Escort when i got it was a 1.1L and as you say very basic. Couldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding with that thing in it.
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One strange thing I discovered today while re-assembling a VW Up! door then testing the window operation, is that you could only operate the passenger side front window from the passenger door switch - there wasn't one on the driver's side to operate it! Rather annoying if you want a through-breeze in summer, I imagine... same with the c1, you can reach it from the drivers seat though
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asbo23
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.... With the Proton Savvy "pov spec" likely a carry over from this.... OVIMORCitroen AX.
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ovimor
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.... With the Proton Savvy "pov spec" likely a carry over from this.... OVIMORCitroen AX. ..... close! Tiara 'clone'
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Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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asbo23
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I know it's a Proton. Was saying that that it's an AX originally.
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My Transit Custom has electric everything, heated seats, heated windscreen, air con, cruise control, Bluetooth etc
I’d rather have a high spec van as I do 40k miles a year in it.
Makes jumping into a poverty spec older car all the better at the weekend too.
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Last Edit: Nov 6, 2019 21:04:51 GMT by crossy10
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The majority of the vans at work are now electric, the home visitors cars are all decent spec Vauxhall's the bin lorry's are due to follow the electric swap in a few years and even the mayor has been questioned about being driven around in a big thirsty Jag
All the vans have electric everything nothing manual.
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Last Edit: Nov 7, 2019 9:20:44 GMT by Barrass
VW nut 1984 MK2 golf type 19e
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If you have a small family, aren't worried about having a steering-wheel and are happy to travel at a sedate pace in the name of economy you can buy an auto-rickshaw / tuk-tuk brand new from <£5K. I'm guessing they are covered by motor-tricycle vehicle tax rate, (£91.00)p.a. and should return 70+mpg. I don't imagine insurance would be high and they can be driven with a motorcycle licence. If it was my money, I'd never consider anything remotely new. If frugality is the prime consideration and lack of creature comforts is a price you're happy to pay you'd pick up a 3-door Peugeot 106 diesel in cracking condition for £2K which would go on for years and return nearly 70mpg if you drive like a vicar.
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Last Edit: Nov 7, 2019 18:12:27 GMT by MkX
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Last Edit: Nov 7, 2019 18:42:05 GMT by MkX
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Bajaj Qute. Proper poverty spec as it was designed to be at home on the streets of Mumbai. A theoretical 70Kmph top speed and alleged 85mpg fuel efficiency. Never mind electric windows or even wind-up windows, this has sliding windows! It costs a little over £3K on the road in India. And you completely neglected to mention the coolest rims known to man!
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that does appear to take pov spec to new lows... i love the kneecap remover (jack) under the dash should you suffer a front impact. mind you that front bumper looks like it would bounce you off most things!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Flynn
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I think 'pov spec' as we know it from cars of the 1990s (keep fit windows, no central locking, no rear wiper, no stereo etc.) is probably a thing of the past in mainland Europe now, there is a lot of equipment that I believe is now mandated by European type approval regulations that forces even the base spec model to be pretty swanky these days. I used to work for what was defined as a small volume manufacturer and they were going to be really up against it launching a new model thanks to the necessity to fit tyre pressure monitoring, an engine immobiliser and a raft of other safety equipment. I believe that lane departure warning and active emergency braking systems were being debated as mandatory equipment for type approval in the next update to the regulations.
I assume this is - in part - why vehicles like Peugeot 405's are still built and sold in developing nations thanks to their type approval regulations allowing them to be sold there.
Shame really as there was a certain charm to my first car, a 1995 Ford Fiesta - which was a special model featuring a rear spoiler, a tape player stereo and a rev counter haha. I suppose as times move on, people just expect more and manufacturers have responded to that to remain competitive.
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Midas
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I beleive the Lada Riva pick up is pretty basic... And less than £6,000 new. Of course you can't buy them here. Seriously, I NEED one (probably just the little 3 door though. What's stopping me getting one, anyone know? From memory Lada in the UK was killed by emissions, or more accurately, their inability to meet EU standards. That’s a Niva by the way...
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retrolegends
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Winging it.....Since 1971.
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Can you still get the boggo Dacia Sandero with the black bumpers?
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I think 'pov spec' as we know it from cars of the 1990s (keep fit windows, no central locking, no rear wiper, no stereo etc.) is probably a thing of the past in mainland Europe now, there is a lot of equipment that I believe is now mandated by European type approval regulations that forces even the base spec model to be pretty swanky these days. I used to work for what was defined as a small volume manufacturer and they were going to be really up against it launching a new model thanks to the necessity to fit tyre pressure monitoring, an engine immobiliser and a raft of other safety equipment. I believe that lane departure warning and active emergency braking systems were being debated as mandatory equipment for type approval in the next update to the regulations. I assume this is - in part - why vehicles like Peugeot 405's are still built and sold in developing nations thanks to their type approval regulations allowing them to be sold there. Shame really as there was a certain charm to my first car, a 1995 Ford Fiesta - which was a special model featuring a rear spoiler, a tape player stereo and a rev counter haha. I suppose as times move on, people just expect more and manufacturers have responded to that to remain competitive. It's more the affluent European markets, i.e. here, Germany, The Netherlands etc, which are losing the truly bog standard base spec models. Our buyers expect more for the money, therefore equipment is offered as standard to compete. If you look more towards the Mediterranean and Eastern Europe, it's still possible to buy povo spec models. In recent years we've had run-out models continue as budget alternatives alongside their replacement (Peugeot 206+, Chevrolets, Dacias etc). The restrictions from the EU are largely down to emissions standards, as opposed to required niceties.
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Last Edit: Nov 7, 2019 21:45:34 GMT by mikehamid
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Bajaj Qute. Proper poverty spec as it was designed to be at home on the streets of Mumbai. A theoretical 70Kmph top speed and alleged 85mpg fuel efficiency. Never mind electric windows or even wind-up windows, this has sliding windows! It costs a little over £3K on the road in India. And you completely neglected to mention the coolest rims known to man! And you get a proper spare wheel, instead of one of those ‘save a set of wheels every 4 cars’ space savers, or worse, a bottle of gunk & a pump!
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