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Feb 27, 2019 17:37:15 GMT
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I would like to expand the broad band coverage to my garage as there is a room upstairs that is going to by used to get the kids out of my house 😁. Obviously to get them out there so I don't hear them arguing over Fortnite, they will want an internet connection. The garage is probably 20m from the house and although I can get my phone to connect to the broadband it doesn't really work.
Now I know next to nothing about this sort of stuff and would like to now what's the best way to do this. I have laid a pipe from the house to the garage so if I need to push an Ethernet cable down there I can, but how do I get from the cable to a wifi signal again?
Or is there a device that can pick up the poor signal from the house and boost it back to a usable level? Like I said I don't understand this sort of stuff so please type slowly if you reply so I can try to absorb the info.
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Feb 27, 2019 18:10:20 GMT
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I would like to expand the broad band coverage to my garage as there is a room upstairs that is going to by used to get the kids out of my house 😁. Obviously to get them out there so I don't hear them arguing over Fortnite, they will want an internet connection. The garage is probably 20m from the house and although I can get my phone to connect to the broadband it doesn't really work. Now I know next to nothing about this sort of stuff and would like to now what's the best way to do this. I have laid a pipe from the house to the garage so if I need to push an Ethernet cable down there I can, but how do I get from the cable to a wifi signal again? Or is there a device that can pick up the poor signal from the house and boost it back to a usable level? Like I said I don't understand this sort of stuff so please type slowly if you reply so I can try to absorb the info. Thanks I'm not an expert either but I'd run your cable and then stick a wireless access point on the end of it. |
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Feb 27, 2019 18:42:45 GMT
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You can do it either way - a wireless access point can just relay the existing Wi-Fi, or have a cable connection. I'd agree with Frankenhealey, the wired option would be better. If the signal is already iffy, a wireless access point connected over that will be poor. |
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Feb 27, 2019 19:04:01 GMT
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I put wifi into both my garage which is 10m from my house and also into a summer house at the top of the garden which is 20m away from the house and both connections were great, plenty fast enough to stream Netflix etc. I bought 2 long cat5 cables and then bought 2 of these access points from Aldi for a fiver each. Plugs the one end of the cables into my router in the house and the other end into one of these acess points... you can just connect to them wirelessly as you would if you were in the house.   As said above, trying to leapfrog the signal wirelessly from the house won't work if you've got a weak wifi signal to start with. Hard wire it as I did and you should be sorted. Each new connection cost me about £15 each ( £10 for the cable from Amazon and £5 for the access points from Aldi) |
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Last Edit: Feb 27, 2019 19:06:36 GMT by ian65
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Feb 27, 2019 20:27:09 GMT
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Thanks guys for your replies. Next question is can I buy long cables ready made up, or can I buy it on the drum and build up the plugs myself, and where from. By the time I get from my router to upstairs in the garage I'm guessing I'll need the best part of 50m for the lead. I'm thinking of the repeater going up stairs incase the foil backed insulation blocks the signal, or does that not happen
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Feb 27, 2019 20:47:35 GMT
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You can buy the cable, then crimp your own ends (rj45). You'll need a crimping tool, or ask any friendly IT support bod ;-) It can be a bit fiddly to get all the wires lined up first time you do it, but it's easier if you get the wires in the right order in between your fingers before you trim the end - then they go in easy.
Looking at the internet about A vs B wiring will do your head in. Look at an existing cable you have with the ends, and copy that.
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Feb 28, 2019 10:38:24 GMT
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Another advantage of buying the cable and crimping the ends on is that it makes it much easier to get the cable through a conduit if you're pulling it, and you don't need such large holes for any walls it has to go through. There used to be cheap kits around that come with a few ends and a crimp tool good enough to crimp them, but if you know someone who has one, the proper crimper will be better.
If you're running a 50m cable, I wouldn't crimp RJ45 plugs on the end, though, I'd crimp it into RJ45 sockets in wall boxes. That way you have a standard cable run, which might be better for future expansion.
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Feb 28, 2019 10:46:02 GMT
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Or just get one of these www.ebay.co.uk/i/121783982096?chn=ps - others similar are available I'm sure. No crimpers needed and you end up with just needing a couple of patch cables either end - one to go to your router (house end) and one for the wireless access point (garage). |
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Feb 28, 2019 11:03:41 GMT
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Thanks all for your replies. It's very much appreciated.
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Or just get one of these www.ebay.co.uk/i/121783982096?chn=ps - others similar are available I'm sure. No crimpers needed and you end up with just needing a couple of patch cables either end - one to go to your router (house end) and one for the wireless access point (garage). Thanks Phil. I'm assuming the patch leads are normal Ethernet cables? ( my wife has lots of these for some reason even though we use none). |
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Thanks Mark. So is this picking up the wifi signal and boosting it, or is it somehow shoving the wifi signal down the electrical system and then popping it back into a wifi signal in the garage? |
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Thanks Mark. So is this picking up the wifi signal and boosting it, or is it somehow shoving the wifi signal down the electrical system and then popping it back into a wifi signal in the garage? I use similar but a BT branded one BT Wifi extender to run wifi to my Office (glorified Shed) and buy default to theGarden (so i can work outside on those odd summer days). It just uses your existing elec wiring as cabling and acts as a mini hub wifi extender re broadcasting your wifi signal. No significant losses to the speeds etc that i have noticed and you can plug in a cable connection if needs be. Another handy side affect is that you can move the receiver anywhere on your elec systems, so for example I can also use it to get wifi/internet in the garage if needs be... |
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Or just get one of these www.ebay.co.uk/i/121783982096?chn=ps - others similar are available I'm sure. No crimpers needed and you end up with just needing a couple of patch cables either end - one to go to your router (house end) and one for the wireless access point (garage). Thanks Phil. I'm assuming the patch leads are normal Ethernet cables? ( my wife has lots of these for some reason even though we use none). Yep that’s right. |
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Thanks Mark. So is this picking up the wifi signal and boosting it, or is it somehow shoving the wifi signal down the electrical system and then popping it back into a wifi signal in the garage? You plug one end into the mains and attach your router to it (network cable) and then you can attach the wi-fi extender anywhere else on the mains to create a network. (Assuming that they are on the same phase, also they don't like too many connections) My 'system' is router upstairs with Powerline adapter plugged into ring main, another adapter downstairs for the TV wired connection. The shed is on a mains cable plugged into a socket in the garage, with a fused switch between the socket and the shed, then the wi-fi (which also has wired connections) in the shed. If I ever wire the shed up properly I'll run a Cat5 cable to the shed and plug it into a Powerline adapter in the garage. |
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Thanks everyone for all the information. It's a great help. I'll have a think about which way to go. I may by a plug in system to try. If it's no good I'll put it in the house as wifi is a bit hit and miss upstairs.
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Run a cable, it'll save you tons of hassle.
source: I do this as part of my job.
Other people have already suggested this, but to elaborate:
Run a cable from wherever your current router is, to the room in your garage
Terminate either end either with RJ45 connectors or single gang network sockets (a socket at the garage end would be neater, in my opinion)
Connect router end of cable to router
Connect garage end to WifI access point (TP Link are adequate for this)
Config access point with it's own network name and password
Job done.
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^^^Totally agree with this for the most reliable connection, I'm great with the wiring but fall over on setting the stuff up! I think "plug and play" is the worst phrase used with most computer stuff as it never does!!
Whilst typing this I'm just trying to print something, the printer is hard wired to the desk top but they cant see each other! the only course of action is to shut the PC down, fire it up and away we go again.... until next time |
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I’ve used a netgear extender that plugs into the router in the house and uses the mains power to get the signal into the garage , been fine for the last 10yrs
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