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Probably not.
Before technology there were people being rude, when they thought they could get away with it.
Technology just gives them the opportunity to spread it around more efficiently.
The sudden radio silence in the middle of a conversation is probably a new form of it though.
And it is one that really pisses me off...
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It's when they offer you mobile phones or other junk as a swap that takes the pi... biscuit.
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tofufi
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I've only ever sold one car, but it went to the first interested person, albeit a week or two after I first advertised it.
That said, it was an undesirable early 90s Volvo diesel - small market of people, but it's something you either want or don't.
My brother was selling his e46 for repairs, and had nothing but endless timewasters. My favourite was the chap who arranged to see it at 7AM, sent a text saying 'I'm outside' at the appointed time. We were stood in the front garden at the time so could tell he wasn't there... and he never responded to another message.
Cars that appeal to every man and his dog looking to make a cheap buck on the repairs will always find every idiot in the book.
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andyborris
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Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
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Yes, technology does encourage people to dehumanize others, classic example is fighter pilots, who almost always talk about the plane they've shot down, not about the person they've just killed.
And we often see car drivers behaving in ways that they wouldn't do, if they were walking along a street!
Nice penance by the way.
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thebaron
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A slight tangent from the initial exhalation of the OP but related nonetheless.
I change my cars a lot (12 in 2018 alone) and I decided to stop selling privately as I calculated the time I was spending for the end to end sale of each car was better off spent elsewhere.
So I struck a deal with a local owner of a garage where he sells the cars on my behalf through his business. Of course he takes a cut but as he is a garage he of course can lead with a higher entry point. I tell him what I want for each one and he can sell it for whatever he likes.
Sometimes he makes nothing out of them as they hang around too long and he needs the space and sometimes he makes more than expected and we both benefit.
The key point is once the car is for sale I have zero hassle to deal with and it is glorious.
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Last Edit: Feb 4, 2019 19:15:02 GMT by thebaron
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vitessetony
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A slight tangent from the initial exhalation of the OP but related nonetheless. I change my cars a lot (12 in 2018 alone) and I decided to stop selling privately as I calculated the time I was spending for the end to end sale of each car was better off spent elsewhere. So I struck a deal with a local owner of a garage where he sells the cars on my behalf through his business. Of course he takes a cut but as he is a garage he of course can lead with a higher entry point. I tell him what I want for each one and he can sell it for whatever he likes. Sometimes he makes nothing out of them as they hang around too long and he needs the space and sometimes he makes more than expected and we both benefit. The key point is once the car is for sale I have zero hassle to deal with and it is glorious. Now that sounds amazing....Show off   |
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It's when they offer you mobile phones or other junk as a swap that takes the pi... biscuit. Swop 4 xbox360, pit bike and broken iPhone 6 2nite m8 |
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I think it was someone on here that explained the 95%/5% rule he had - 95% of people are t0ssers and the other 5% are probably ok!
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ChasR
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They've always been around.
These days however, cars do seem to be much pricier than even a few years ago, which will annoy people (and partially me, but not enough to be downright rude to people). That will provoke more peeps.
Go back 10 years ago and I bought a Lovely condition Pug 306 GTi-6 with sensible miles for £2.3k. A Focus ST these days that's 7 years old? Try £12-13k! I don't see wages trippling for the same amount! Even 3 years ago I got a 5 year Mondeo Ghia X Estate V6 for £3.5k. Try even getting a base spec one for that much which hasn't been to the moon and back under 5 years old. Even 10 year old Mercs which were sub £1k money are now £6k for a shitbox that has been to the moon and is now on its return journey. Rich off this forum and I really struggled to get a decent 5 series E61 that wasn't curse word and still went over the budget; we had to or give up on getting one.
And that IMHO is part of the problem. There are still many people out there (including me) who simply won't finance themselves up to the eyeballs just to buy something and can't do that. I won't go on at people however ; no does mean no and that should be respected.
I last sold a car last year where I put it onto C&C, Pistonheads, Facebook and the Merc forums. TBH, even on Facebook, I had the radio silencers out there but nothing like what was described. Maybe I've been lucky. Akku's guide on selling a car still rings true today however.
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Anyone want a set of 15" Porsche teleidails with nearly new tyres and 5x100 to Porsche adapters? 🤣 I'll take them! You pay me £25, deliver them and fit them to my car, and I'll complain when I've worn the tyres out in 2 years time. Deal? Sorry, couldn't help it! |
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1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started.
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Anyone want a set of 15" Porsche teleidails with nearly new tyres and 5x100 to Porsche adapters? 🤣 I'll take them! You pay me £25, deliver them and fit them to my car, and I'll complain when I've worn the tyres out in 2 years time. Deal? Sorry, couldn't help it! 🤣 |
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As for technology making people rude, just look at any political conversation on Facebook or Twitter. The level of abuse and illiteracy is just horrifying.
As for this particular problem, I guess you always had tyre kickers before eBay. With that said, this is really annoying. Whenever I sold a car, in the end I just wouldn't bother entertaining silly offers and would either just say "No thanks" or just ignore it. If they're offering £200 for a £1,000 car, they're basically a complete mong and unworthy of your time.
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Rude,stupid and cheeky is what I've found recently. I'm selling some chest of draws on eBay, I had one person who was very interested at my asking price of £75. Even got a collection day and time sorted,only for her on the day of collection claim that it won't fit in her car after she measured up. I said that if she was local I could put them in the back of my 4x4. Comes back to me with a £50 offer and she's an hour away. Or idiots that ask questions when the details are already in the advert. On the other hand I've seen cars advertised on eBay with ridiculous prices for absolute wrecks,and they relist at the same price. I'm looking to buy a Defender once the sale of my house is completed and have been watching the same cars get listed week in week out with crazy prices. I've seen some nice cars reasonably priced sell very quick as you would expect. I doesn't take a genius to work out why.
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My bookface message list is full of people asking "Good afternoon, is the item still available?" With my reply of Yes, and that's it never to be heard from again. That's a facebook problem, not a person problem. If you touch the "send message" button on the advert, that's what it sends, and it is very, very easy to accidentally press it as it hovers right where you need to press to scroll up. |
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My bookface message list is full of people asking "Good afternoon, is the item still available?" With my reply of Yes, and that's it never to be heard from again. That's a facebook problem, not a person problem. If you touch the "send message" button on the advert, that's what it sends, and it is very, very easy to accidentally press it as it hovers right where you need to press to scroll up. This exactly! Prior to buying the Z3 last year I was watching a few on FB (including Golf Cabs amongst others). One Monday morning I got a message from a seller of one such car telling me that, 'yes the car was for sale still and would I like to come and take a look' - only then did I realise I must have accidentally tapped whatever button it is to ask the seller a question. It would be so much easier if it had a confirmation page before it just sends a random message (entirely by accident in a lot of cases). |
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merryck
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The other side to it is the people selling. My brother sent me a message with an advert of a Toylander on Facebook as I'm looking to build one. The price was '£123' so obviously not the actual asking price. I asked my brother to find out how much the chap wanted and the guy replies with 'Make me an offer'.
It really drives me mad when people do that. I told my brother to offer him a bag of Haribo with the gummi bears removed, an open bottle of coke and an old five pound note.
The guy didn't like it, but you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. I'll build mine from scratch and then I don't have to deal with idiots.
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The other side to it is the people selling. My brother sent me a message with an advert of a Toylander on Facebook as I'm looking to build one. The price was '£123' so obviously not the actual asking price. I asked my brother to find out how much the chap wanted and the guy replies with 'Make me an offer'. It really drives me mad when people do that. I told my brother to offer him a bag of Haribo with the gummi bears removed, an open bottle of coke and an old five pound note. The guy didn't like it, but you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. I'll build mine from scratch and then I don't have to deal with idiots. If I ask about something and I get "make me an offer" I completely ignore and drop it at that point, I'm not selling and buying it for you, you're just hoping I come up with a number way above what you're hoping to get. |
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merryck
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I'm not selling and buying it for you Exactly this, we can't both be selling it! |
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I think technology turns people into morons. If you were dealing face to face with some dealers on ebay you wouldnt be dealing with the same people, i mean, if you go to an autojumble/carboot/swapmeet/whatever you generaly don't come across blatent rudeness, or quite excessive chancers like you do when you deal with people on ebay, for example if you ask a question about an item and don't get a reply, or if someones got a 'make an offer' option, and no matter how many perfectly reasonable offers you make, it just gets rejected rather than them making a counter offer. This happened to me recently. After i made the offers i emailed him and asked how much he wanted and what condition was it in as the pics wernt very good, and he didnt even reply. I eventualy won the auction for half of my lowest offer, and it turned out to be mint. His loss.
I also had one muppet win an auction on tuesday, paid on wednesday and expected it posted on wednesday because he wanted to race it on sunday. I explained that the advert stated there may be 3 days between payment and posting depending on when i am able to get the time to post it. They usualy get posted the following day, but if the item is paid for when I'm at work I'm not going to magic it into a postbox on the same day. He got really quite rude and disrespectful and called me allsorts and id totaly wasted his time and ruined his weekend and he wanted his money back and he would never deal with me again. Laterz.
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