Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,712
Club RR Member Number: 34
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Jan 28, 2019 20:03:12 GMT
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I predict this will actually make London air quality worse, not better. Everyone will just be looking for every get-out and loophole possible, and for many that will mean using classic cars daily. For the industry that will be great, as a support network will be needed, but I feel That may well come to bite all of us on the when it invariably gets outlawed when they realise what people are doing. I already know guys in London and the close surrounding areas who have petrol converted transit recovery trucks, as if they were diesel they wouldn’t be allowed into the current emission zone.
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Jan 28, 2019 20:14:06 GMT
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I wonder if any businesses will end up with early 70s vans, or late 70s estate cars to get around the rules.
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Jan 28, 2019 20:25:23 GMT
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There won’t be any need, because after brexit we will all have died through malnutrition due to the fact that we can’t get fresh kiwi fruit in February or smoked paprika
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I’m not going into it have had massive debates about it but the majority here have echoed my thoughts. Oh well ! If I have to be Going in it, it will be in my st170 Mk2 Escort ! Tax mot exempt!! So how that makes sense I dunno but look out for me peeling burnouts LOL
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There won’t be any need, because after brexit we will all have died through malnutrition due to the fact that we can’t get fresh kiwi fruit in February or smoked paprika Don't forget the swarm of locusts and the coming of the fallen one. The end is nign! 😂
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Jan 29, 2019 12:23:50 GMT
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I wonder if any businesses will end up with early 70s vans, or late 70s estate cars to get around the rules. Me, me, me ! It just keeps getting better. My 70s estate has been tax & mot exempt for a while, business insurance is super-cheap, and as a bonus I now get ULEZ free Errm, thinking about it, nobody will do that, it's not worth the bother, no need to change the existing plans ...
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kenb
Part of things
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Jan 29, 2019 15:46:31 GMT
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Prediction: I reckon that by 2035 no combustion engined vehicles(inc hybrids) at all except perhaps emergency vehicles and a handful of other exceptions will be allowed within the north circular and south circular ring. Big changes ahead I thinks. I love the idea of free public transport, but i think the underground and bus service is already struggling. Think of the extra buses that would be needed to cope if no one could bring a car in at all.
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fraudownersclub
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 1,005
Club RR Member Number: 23
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Jan 29, 2019 19:40:47 GMT
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We can all drive into London minus our number plates. Be cheaper to pay a fine for failure to display than the congestion charge 😂😂 Reckon that’ll cause a bit of a melt down for tfl 😊. Any way they say it’s to prevent pollution and loss of lives but if I want to pollute and choke someone that’s fine as long as I pay for the privilege 🤔🤔🤔
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#fraudownersclub #richartsltd
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Jan 30, 2019 16:37:53 GMT
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I live in Nottingham who are very anti-car. When i used to visit before living here, it was one of the most populated speed camera places id ever visited. A few years a go the city council imposed a parking levy to all businesses over a certain size within the city boundaries. How this passed law nobody knows. Basically the company i work for with approx 130 people end up paying approximately £40k a year in tax for their own privately owned parking spaces for their employees. Some businesses can't afford to subsidise so pass the cost on to the staff (which i think is what the council really wanted).
Boots factory is round the corner from us and their site is so big it is rumoured they moved their staff carpark so it was technically outside the city boundary. It is also romoured the council then had the boundary changed on the plans. The idea behind introducing the levy was to pay for the tram network.
Don't get me wrong, I find the tram useful but it was absolute chaos when it was being built and is far from perfect now. It doesn't go everywhere you want it to and it isn't cheap. I use it because all the carparks in city center are expensive and old n tight meaning there is high risk your car will be damaged. Mainly i choose just to not go into city center.
To get to my work which is on the edge of the city boundary, you still have to drive, cycle or walk. No buses come past especially at 6am. The cycle paths are gradually improving but are inefficient. The roads are just dire.
The really really kick in the teeth is that across the road from my work, there is a massive park n ride carpark - so they expect you to drive as far as the same area as my work!
So the Sheriff is very much still alive and well in Nottingham with the only Rob'in being done by the council. Businesses are moving out and alot of people don't shop anymore.
The worry is that anti-car Nottingham is watching London carefully ready to adopt any crazy money-making scheme they can at the expense of the car.
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Jan 30, 2019 17:27:42 GMT
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Businesses are moving out and alot of people don't shop anymore. The worry is that anti-car Nottingham is watching London carefully ready to adopt any crazy money-making scheme they can at the expense of the car. A mate moved to Nottingham about 10 years ago and warned all potential visitors about the over-keen speed cameras (30mph on the A610 dual carrigeway from the M1 into Notts if my memory is right) A lot of towns are loosing trade. I love Newcastle but public transport is crowded, parking is V expensive, roads are car-unfriendly. Options are public transport (purchases must be small enought to fit in my rucksack), buy locally (must have nearby free parking, I've spent too long waiting in for deliveries that don't arrive), or mail-order.
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Jan 31, 2019 11:15:43 GMT
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When i have visited France, alot of areas have free public parking especially in holiday times.
The attitude seems to be "please visit and enjoy our town, and please spend your money".
In this country it seems like the attitude is completely the opposite.
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tofufi
South West
Posts: 1,452
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Jan 31, 2019 12:57:24 GMT
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When i have visited France, alot of areas have free public parking especially in holiday times. The attitude seems to be "please visit and enjoy our town, and please spend your money". In this country it seems like the attitude is completely the opposite. Many UK cities have free Sunday and Bank Holiday parking???
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Jan 31, 2019 13:10:01 GMT
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When i have visited France, alot of areas have free public parking especially in holiday times. The attitude seems to be "please visit and enjoy our town, and please spend your money". In this country it seems like the attitude is completely the opposite. Many UK cities have free Sunday and Bank Holiday parking??? Yeh and in many of the towns and cities, the shops still shut on Sundays and bank hols. Proves parking is a money making scheme again.
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Jan 31, 2019 13:45:42 GMT
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When i have visited France, alot of areas have free public parking especially in holiday times. The attitude seems to be "please visit and enjoy our town, and please spend your money". In this country it seems like the attitude is completely the opposite. ^ Very true. I spent most of last year touring around the South West coast, a common pattern was locals complaining that their council was putting double yellow lines everywhere and increasing the charges at the pay & display carparks. One of the several places I found that I would have loved to explore (The Blue Lagoon @ South Wales) but I refused to pay to park in the middle of nowhere so just took a photo and drove away. The nearby food & drink vendor told me the recent parking changes had killed their business and they would be closing in a few months unless things changed. I would have bought some lunch from him but had to move the car before the parking wardens gave me a ticket I'm working at the coast in Devon for a couple of months (renovations while the hotel is closed for the winter season), my boss gave me a lift to the pub at the weekend for a quiet drink. This was a Sunday afternoon in a deserted town and parking charges still apply - then folk wonder why town centres are not busy < insert random semi-relevant pics in thread >
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Jan 31, 2019 13:49:25 GMT
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Crazy parking in this country. There was a program on the other night about parking, and in one town (north wales i think ) a local guy bought the lease on a carpark and scrapped the parking charges. The locals regarded him as a local as he boosted their businesses and people visited the town. Councils are so short sighted at times.
There is only one place in this country I know that is good and that is around Cornwall. I found a carpark there which was £1 for 24h parking. I don't mind that, and the walk into Penzance was nice too.
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Jan 31, 2019 16:20:17 GMT
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Charging me a daily rate to drive one of my many old heavily polluting cars into London "isn't going to save the polar bears" Why can't they just be honest and say we need your money and we can't think of any other mad tax scheme
I used to commute into London even day for work which I done 90% of the time on a motorcycle It would take 45min on the bike or 2 hours in a car (I'm sure it was only 25 miles or something like that) I decided enough was enough when they put in permit parking so if you did use the car you had to park it a 30min walk away
It will get to a point where the smaller delivery company's or other businesses will just say no to work inside the zone or just add it to the bill Making it less attractive to live there and certainly more expensive
I'm just glad I don't have to deal with it nowadays
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1992 240 Volvo T8 1955 Cadillac 1994 BMW E34 M5 (now sold ) 1999 BMW E36 sport touring x2 1967 Hillman imp Californian "rally spec" 1971 VW bay window (work in progress) 1999 Mazda 323F 1987 Jaguar XJ12 All current
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