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Jan 26, 2019 12:59:10 GMT
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Where do you reckon we'll be say in 2030?
Driven off the road?
Driving around with electric or similar conversions only?
Converted to driverless eg. Johnnycabs?! (Total Recall Arnie version).
Still driving but with petrol at £10 per litre?!
Or something else???
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Jan 26, 2019 13:12:02 GMT
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We will be in boats because we will have melted the Polar ice caps with our naughty petrol engines & the entire world will be underwater. David Attenborough said so & he is a legend & knows a lot of stuff about lots of stuff. He even broadcast the first colour programme on the BBC it was Wimbledon, that has nothing to do with anything of course but it just illustrates he is clever.
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Jan 26, 2019 17:50:14 GMT
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It’s only 11 years away.
Things won’t be any different, other than average Sierra Cosworths will be worth about £200,000 and so on and so forth...
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Specialist Bodyshop & Fabrication Classic, Retro, Prestige & Custom Small Repairs to Concours Restorations Mechanical Work Vintage to Modern
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fogey
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Jan 26, 2019 18:05:27 GMT
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It’s only 11 years away. Things won’t be any different, other than average Sierra Cosworths will be worth about £200,000 and so on and so forth... I think that's a 'head in the sand' attitude - much can happen in 11 years, whether we like it or not Autonomous vehicles will become more common on our roads and it will not just be our kettles that are being powered by electricity. I believe we will also see ' older' vehicles subjected to restricted use, especially all those that are so conveniently in the 'VHI' taxation category. (I would add a picture of a suitable retro but as usual Photobucket is a nightmare . . . .)
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Last Edit: Jan 26, 2019 18:07:45 GMT by fogey
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Jan 26, 2019 18:11:46 GMT
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surely we will all be in flying cars in the future??
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jan 26, 2019 18:46:06 GMT
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It may not be that far away, but with the way things have been changing recently I can see quite afew new rules and stuff comming in, Classics not being used on a daily basis and only on weekends possibly, with very limited mileage and use insurance in place, electric conversions might be more commonplace and may be a way around limited use. With so many cars being MOT exempt, this may have an effect on their longterm survival for cars that are not taken care of properly, which will then have an impact on the value of surviving classics. Further in the future i can see that events like the Goodwood festival will be the only place you will be able to experience petrol-head sounds and smells. But who knows, they might even develop a magical synthetic and safe petrol alternative. I wonder what cars built today will be considered retro, or interesting enough to have a following?
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Jan 26, 2019 18:55:04 GMT
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a way around limited use. the trouble with old cars is that the speedo cables can work loose*....as least thats what ive been told! ;-) *i cannot confirm if this is or is not true.....honest!!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jan 26, 2019 19:04:59 GMT
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2030...lol, I will be brown bread
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Please don't throw litter, take it home.
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Jan 26, 2019 19:07:30 GMT
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Will that brexit business be over by then?...😁
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Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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Jan 26, 2019 19:15:52 GMT
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It’s only 11 years away. Things won’t be any different, other than average Sierra Cosworths will be worth about £200,000 and so on and so forth... I think that's a 'head in the sand' attitude - much can happen in 11 years, whether we like it or not Autonomous vehicles will become more common on our roads and it will not just be our kettles that are being powered by electricity. I believe we will also see ' older' vehicles subjected to restricted use, especially all those that are so conveniently in the 'VHI' taxation category. (I would add a picture of a suitable retro but as usual Photobucket is a nightmare . . . .) Nothing significant is going to change on the classic car scene in the next 11 years. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is just scaremongering. Autonomous vehicles won’t be on our roads in any volume in the next 11 years. Sure there will be an increase in electric and hybrid cars, but there will be no discernible effect on the classic car scene, which always has been a specialist scene as it is, in the next 11 years or far beyond that.
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Specialist Bodyshop & Fabrication Classic, Retro, Prestige & Custom Small Repairs to Concours Restorations Mechanical Work Vintage to Modern
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Jan 26, 2019 19:37:32 GMT
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I think that's a 'head in the sand' attitude - much can happen in 11 years, whether we like it or not Autonomous vehicles will become more common on our roads and it will not just be our kettles that are being powered by electricity. I believe we will also see ' older' vehicles subjected to restricted use, especially all those that are so conveniently in the 'VHI' taxation category. (I would add a picture of a suitable retro but as usual Photobucket is a nightmare . . . .) Nothing significant is going to change on the classic car scene in the next 11 years. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is just scaremongering. Autonomous vehicles won’t be on our roads in any volume in the next 11 years. Sure there will be an increase in electric and hybrid cars, but there will be no discernible effect on the classic car scene, which always has been a specialist scene as it is, in the next 11 years or far beyond that. I don't really see discussion as scaremongering. Things arnt the same now as they were 10 years ago, and any suggestion as to how it may change in the next 10 is only a guess, ive no doubt that the classic car scene will still exist, if I still exist I will still love classics. There are bound to be changes though I'm sure.
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Jan 26, 2019 19:53:12 GMT
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What about the volume of youngsters coming into the classics scene?
How many people know say 16-21 year olds that are into classics vs. those who express no interest?
In 10 years time they will be 26-31 year olds, will they care about classics?
A lot of us may have had a classic as our first car, or at least a 20 year old banger. Is that the case now? I'm not so sure.
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Jan 26, 2019 20:13:37 GMT
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What about the volume of youngsters coming into the classics scene? How many people know say 16-21 year olds that are into classics vs. those who express no interest? In 10 years time they will be 26-31 year olds, will they care about classics? A lot of us may have had a classic as our first car, or at least a 20 year old banger. Is that the case now? I'm not so sure. Now that’s a very valid point for discussion. Interest won’t decline, but ease of buying (or “renting”) a car on finance will indeed mean that less and less young drivers will be buying old, cheap cars to keep for any length of time and work on themselves like previous generations have done. This won’t die out completely of course as some people will still pick this up through their parents, but it already has and will continue the become less and less the “norm”. I know a good few colleges and training establishments doing courses related to classic cars (mechanics, bodywork, trimming etc) and youngsters wanting to learn these skills and follow these career paths would have seemed to have increased in number in the last 5 years (after a massive drop in the 10-15 years previously). I do, however, know a few young lads who have started (and almost finished) their courses and apprenticeships then have it all up with less than a year to go to take up driving jobs as they obviously pay more than an apprenticeship and maybe they feel left behind some of their peers financially who are probably in most cases working a job that will ultimately be less rewarding that what they’d end up with if they were just a little more patient! But again that’s another issue with some of the youth of today.
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Roach
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Jan 26, 2019 20:19:29 GMT
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I’m going to be living in a cosmic hydro chamber by then.. when I want to go somewhere, I just press my intravenous travel button and I’m transported to where I want to be instantly.
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Jan 26, 2019 20:38:16 GMT
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Nothing significant is going to change on the classic car scene in the next 11 years. Anyone who tries to say otherwise is just scaremongering. That's it - you jump in there early and make sure you defame anyone who would have a different view, and discredit any opinion that differs from yours - which you also posit as fact. While I've no idea what 2030 will look like, I'm not going to attempt to stub out discussion about it by saying anyone who does have a thought or idea about it is *such and such*.
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Jan 26, 2019 20:51:43 GMT
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I am 15 and I can say safely that I will keep the classic car scene alive Hopefully the cars will be a bit cheaper 👍
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Jan 26, 2019 20:52:29 GMT
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don't count on it george...!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jan 26, 2019 20:56:03 GMT
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That cossie you want George ain’t gonna depreciate at all !!
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Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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Jan 26, 2019 21:06:00 GMT
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surely we will all be in flying cars in the future?? They been around a long time they are4 called aeroplanes .Tell you what will be happening in around 2030 if man hasnt already destroyed the planet with technology they will be telling us how poluting are electric cars are and we should be buying something else to replace them
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Jan 26, 2019 21:07:13 GMT
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Hopefully two future young classic drivers here, For Ella, there are a couple of companies that consider the Corsa a classic at 20 years, and will offer her classic insurance with a year of driving. Hopefully that will help her to spring backwards towards an older car rather than chasing something new and on finance. Tom seems fairly keen on the whole classic and retro scene. As to the rest of it, I think they’ll be a push to get rid of diesel first and then petrol... so by 2030 I think they’ll be more electric or hybrid vehicles driving about, but I also think nothing will particularly well formed so can’t see classics being pushed off the road by then. But the cost of fuel will be a lot more, and no one will be able to argue that the Corsa is retro by then
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