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Dec 29, 2018 15:42:39 GMT
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I've just bought this.e Ford Pop at an auction. Its a great car but doesn't have a V5 . It must have had one at some time NNM870, but does anybody know why it doesn't now? Or indeed anything else about the car?
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Dec 29, 2018 16:29:11 GMT
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Hi, Having done vehicle check on the DVSA site it comes back 'no details' so it looks like it's lost the right to the reg number and I see a BIVA in your future. The only other reference is to a youtube clip from 3 years ago.
Colin
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Stiff
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Dec 29, 2018 16:41:52 GMT
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Yes. The DVLA removed its right to registration very early part of 2018 becaue the previous owner tried to sell the number plate that it wasn't legally entitled to.
The ONLY legal way to get a new logbook is put it through BIVA which will entail YOU taking it apart and rebuilding to the correct standard to pass.
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Dec 31, 2018 10:46:06 GMT
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Hi Kapri,
Thanks for your reply. The car was sold as needing an IVA, but it from various sources it seems it had been around on the road for a number of years. Do you know why it wasn't entitled to the reg number?
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Aint Misbehavin 1Vfr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Dec 31, 2018 11:12:08 GMT
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Hi Kapri, Thanks for your reply. The car was sold as needing an IVA, but it from various sources it seems it had been around on the road for a number of years. Do you know why it wasn't entitled to the reg number? Could be one of the following... 1. vehicle is an import and was assigned a non-transferable age related plate on first UK registration and user tried to sell it on. 2. vehicle was assigned a non-transferable age related plate following last IVA test and user tried to sell it on. 3. Previous owner bought the car with a plan to sell the reg on but the owner prior to that had already applied to remove the registration from the car to put on a retention certificate for future use / sale. Could be other reasons too that I'm not aware of. The requirement for a whole fresh IVA seems a little harsh IMHO though! |
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Dez
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@dez
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Dec 31, 2018 11:17:51 GMT
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Hi Kapri, Thanks for your reply. The car was sold as needing an IVA, but it from various sources it seems it had been around on the road for a number of years. Do you know why it wasn't entitled to the reg number? Could be one of the following... 1. vehicle is an import and was assigned a non-transferable age related plate on first UK registration and user tried to sell it on. 2. vehicle was assigned a non-transferable age related plate following last IVA test and user tried to sell it on. 3. Previous owner bought the car with a plan to sell the reg on but the owner prior to that had already applied to remove the registration from the car to put on a retention certificate for future use / sale. Could be other reasons too that I'm not aware of. The requirement for a whole fresh IVA seems a little harsh IMHO though! None of that will be anything to do with it. The car will be too modified to be entitled to its original registration so it will have been revoked when the previous owner applied to remove the plate. The video above provides enough evidence for the DVLA to revoke its plate if they know what they’re looking at. The only get-out you may have is if you can prove the car was built AND correctly registered prior to 1989. But if theyve revoked the plate they’re going to have checked that and found otherwise I guess. |
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Last Edit: Dec 31, 2018 11:22:36 GMT by Dez
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Aint Misbehavin 1Vfr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Dec 31, 2018 11:28:10 GMT
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Could be one of the following... 1. vehicle is an import and was assigned a non-transferable age related plate on first UK registration and user tried to sell it on. 2. vehicle was assigned a non-transferable age related plate following last IVA test and user tried to sell it on. 3. Previous owner bought the car with a plan to sell the reg on but the owner prior to that had already applied to remove the registration from the car to put on a retention certificate for future use / sale. Could be other reasons too that I'm not aware of. The requirement for a whole fresh IVA seems a little harsh IMHO though! None of that will be anything to do with it. The car will be too modified to be entitled to its original registration so it will have been revoked when the previous owner applied to remove the plate. The video above provides enough evidence for the DVLA to revoke its plate if they know what they’re looking at. The only get-out you may have is if you can prove the car was built AND correctly registered prior to 1989. But if theyve revoked the plate they’re going to have checked that and found otherwise I guess. So it's more a case of the registration being revoked because it's been over-modified without going through an IVA since modifications rather than just selling the registration the owner didn't have the rights too. |
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Dec 31, 2018 11:44:35 GMT
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NO ONE has the right to a number plate other than DVLA .'We' only have the right to display, based on the vehicle retaining it's identity via the various criteria laid down by the DVLA ie the 8 points rule.
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Aint Misbehavin 1Vfr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Dec 31, 2018 12:03:18 GMT
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NO ONE has the right to a number plate other than DVLA .'We' only have the right to display, based on the vehicle retaining it's identity via the various criteria laid down by the DVLA ie the 8 points rule. But you can transfer a number plate from car to car providing the donor car is taxed, MOT'd where relevant, currently road legal etc so it looks like the process involved in transferring the reg from the vehicle prior to sale of registration led DVLA to investigate the status of the vehicle and it's 8 points rule legibility. |
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Dec 31, 2018 13:17:54 GMT
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I have to assume that people have a certain amount of knowledge being involved with cars and that some obvious things don't have to be stated.
SIMPLE facts of the procedure were stated without having to explain how many sugars the guy takes in his coffee.
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stealthstylz
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Dec 31, 2018 13:33:10 GMT
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You can't just BIVA a complete car, you have to show the inspectors that YOU have built the majority of it. You've basically got a race car or an expensive ornament unless you want to put the work in to take it back to an acceptable "starting point" for the inspectors which I believe is a rolling chassis but I may be wrong. Kapri might be able to clarify this.
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Dec 31, 2018 13:41:11 GMT
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/\ Yes, has to be dismantled enough to show your input into the vehicle . This will require photographic eveidence as well . Much will hav eto come apart to be upgraded to BIVA spec anyway so normally front and rear axle will need removing anyway as a minimum.
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