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When old cars become retrojohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Jul 22, 2018 21:05:29 GMT
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I'm really hankering for a 200 or 400, especially fitted with the 180 bhp turbo engine. Prices absolutely cant get cheaper. They are on the cusp of retro and pretty good cars. Are Rivers more retro because Rover don’t exist any more? But then I guess Saab’s should be too :/
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retrolegends
Club Retro Rides Member
Winging it.....Since 1971.
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When old cars become retroretrolegends
@retrolegends
Club Retro Rides Member 94
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These are great cars but worth absolutely nothing and give it a few years will be a distant memory, I've been trying to sell mine but there is no interest in them at all so I reckon I'going to park it up and wait until it's the last one left. 😆😆😆 How much is absolutely nothing? I’ve got a Saab Convertible itch that needs scratching but as soon as I start the scratch I notice all the prices seem to have shot right up from when I didn’t have the money... Been for sale for 4 weeks, 85000 from new and a full MOT, put it up for £1200 and I've had one text enquiry that offered me £900 but didn't want to travel to see it. I hate selling cars!!! High tax and low fuel consumption so people just don't want them anymore.
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1974 Hillman Avenger 1500DL1992 Volvo 240SE1975 Datsun Cherry 100a flying custard1965 Hillman SuperMinx Rock N Roller1974 Austin Allegrat Mk1 1.3SDL1980 Austin Allegro Mk3 1.3L1982 Austin Allegro Mk3 on banded steels2003 Saab 9-3 Convertible 220bhp TurboNutter1966 Morris Minor 1000 (Doris) 2019 Abarth 595C Turismo (not retro but awesome fun) www.facebook.com/DatsunCherry100a
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I'm thinking of buying a Saab like that later in the year for me and Mrs K, to go with my 1.8t wagon. Our kids are rarely with us these days so we're thinking top down and weekends away. They do seem stupidly cheap.
As to the question, the first Corsa was to my eyes always a neat looking little car that had it's reputation sullied by the McDonalds car park drifter generation. You don't see many of them anymore so I tend to notice them. I think for me the decider is as someone said above, that "I haven't seen one of those for ages" thing.
I think often the poverty spec cars age better than the sporty and luxury versions because they aren't slaves to fashion in the same way. I'd still love a MK2 Golf GTi but these days I'd be looking to lose a lot of the plastic add-ons as I think they make them look a bit dated.
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Jaguar S-Type 3.0 SE
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Jul 23, 2018 14:26:51 GMT
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at risk of getting into another attempt at defining classic or retro. the reason i think a corsa B WONT become retro is that, unlike an austin 1100, there isn't enough wrong with it. its not brilliant at anything, not outstanding at 1 thing and terrible at others, its not terrible at everything, its just adequate at all levels. character is defined by how many faults you can put up with
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Last Edit: Jul 23, 2018 14:28:55 GMT by darrenh
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Jul 24, 2018 17:39:17 GMT
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How much is absolutely nothing? I’ve got a Saab Convertible itch that needs scratching but as soon as I start the scratch I notice all the prices seem to have shot right up from when I didn’t have the money... Been for sale for 4 weeks, 85000 from new and a full MOT, put it up for £1200 and I've had one text enquiry that offered me £900 but didn't want to travel to see it. I hate selling cars!!! High tax and low fuel consumption so people just don't want them anymore. That is well cheap and although the tax is a curse word take, it’s the insurance that’s putting the brakes on it for me - I’ve just put the reg into confused and it’s coming up more than my Porsche! Well that and the fact you’re miles away from me...
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Jul 24, 2018 18:21:36 GMT
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If I'd left my Astra standard, early pov spec mk3 I'd think it was retro, people are starting to see GSi's on the cusp of retro, but I've noticed in the 9 or 10 years I've had it I've gone from being labelled that bellend with the noisy Astra to that lad with the cool old Astra me and the Mrs went the shop in it the other day and 2 separate blokes wandered over to talk about it and the Mrs was puzzled about why 2 grown men were intrigued by a clapped out 25 year old Astra, that's gotta count as retro right?
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Jul 24, 2018 18:51:13 GMT
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I don't think theres any doubt that a 25 year old Astra is retro, as soon as someone thinks 'cor I havnt seen one of those in a while, then its retro. My Cube gets reactions Of 'what on earth is that?!?' and I get reactions from people with looks on their faces like ive got my head on upside down. It creates alot of interest ,but not beecause its retro, its not old enough, even though it was well received at the weekender campsite, so does it even have to be old to be retro? Is retro just another word for 'old'?
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Jul 24, 2018 19:09:42 GMT
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No it is not. Because just yesterday my neighbours grandchildren were there with their Beetle convertible ( a new car. NOT a new beetle eh!!!). It's old look with chrome hubcaps and pastel green paint. But it is a new car. And everybody likes it. Because it reminds them of the old beetle and therefore simpler times. I didn't say better times. Retro is not necessarily relaged to age of the item(be it car or bike or furniture...). But what do i know😝😝🙋🙋
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Jul 24, 2018 21:44:54 GMT
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I meant "related". Goddam these phones😬😬😉😉
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Jul 24, 2018 22:08:30 GMT
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I actually meant: "the LACK of sophistication combined with the pureness of a first model...". the old "mk1 syndrome"... mk1 escort , mk1 golf , mk1 fiesta , classic 2 door range rover , first gen celica etc etc etc.... all the best of their type! ‘Best of their type’ at what? Looks? I do agree, it’s a thing but not sure why, other than the obvious, it was the first. I own a mk1 & mk2 Escort, I know which one I’d rather drive & it’s not the ‘so called’ best!
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GJUK
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Jul 24, 2018 22:23:10 GMT
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the old "mk1 syndrome"... mk1 escort , mk1 golf , mk1 fiesta , classic 2 door range rover , first gen celica etc etc etc.... all the best of their type! ‘Best of their type’ at what? Looks? I do agree, it’s a thing but not sure why, other than the obvious, it was the first. I own a mk1 & mk2 Escort, I know which one I’d rather drive & it’s not the ‘so called’ best! Mmmm right.
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Jul 24, 2018 22:34:13 GMT
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But then again,after a few (many)beers...retro or not. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So let's get to sleep and reproduce ourselves. Or not. Just sleep. But.. .retro is a way of life! A mindset. Not a definition. We are one!!! The RR posse!!!!!! we won't fall for some theory,we are Retro Rides.
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ChasR
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When old cars become retroChasR
@chasr
Club Retro Rides Member 170
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Jul 24, 2018 23:10:29 GMT
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Retro is a very strange thing indeed! It's something HotWire covered quite some time ago!
If there's one thing I've learned, it's that age plays a role but not as big a role as you think. What memories the car brings back, how it captured a generation, whether it be for better or for worse (but eventually better if you look at the Essex scene) is what makes things retro.
Looking through the [urlhttp://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/205098/used-live-retro-heaven]How we used to live[/url] thread had a couple of shots of retro shows, most of the cars there were 20-30 years old. These days I've seen forum members here and elsewhere mock cars in this age group and in the case of one local event turn the car away and threaten to shut down the show! it does show how attitudes have changed a little.
Going back to my point. It's really interesting how the interest varies for the cars. If you went off age it would be an easy one to predict. But it isn't. From what I can sell out of my cars The Retroness scale going from highest to lowest seems to be:
-Citroen 2CV -BMW E46 M3 -Mercedes W124; it seems to have less interest than the M3. Yes I know I didn't include the Laon story with that, but even so the M3 has usurped it by quite a way when you consider I put in 2 years worth of info into the space of a fortnight on the thread.
If it were a W210 for the reader's rides section I doubt it would have a similar amount of interest to the M3. But maybe it would...
Another forum with more modern content love the W124. My retro friends on the other hand aren't convinced, yet most of them are on the 2CV and the M3, following this forum's perceptons down to the tee.
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these are "retro", so it cant just be an age bracket
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Jul 25, 2018 14:10:12 GMT
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the two of us poring over a scruffy but solid '94 Mondeo V6 with a dinged wheelarch and a cracked back bumper. 😁 didnt they all come from the factory with flapping bumpers??? bumpers were very badly made and could be cracked just by leaning against them. Thin coating of brittle plastic covering insulation foam. what could go wrong? www.jack-frost.co.uk/mondeo_gaffer_tape.htmllambos, porches etc are nice to look at but there isnt much chance of working on one yourself, but a nice v6 mondeo? yes please!
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Some 9000's, a 900, an RX8 & a beetle
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Jul 25, 2018 19:02:47 GMT
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these are "retro", so it cant just be an age bracket big difference between retro and retro style....
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jul 25, 2018 19:39:46 GMT
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So is that like old, and old style?
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big difference between retro and retro style.... by definition, retro means imitative of a style or fashion from the recent past. so no, there isnt a difference
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Jul 26, 2018 19:13:17 GMT
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big difference between retro and retro style.... by definition, retro means imitative of a style or fashion from the recent past. so no, there isnt a difference That has totaly broken my train of thought.
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When old cars become retroMercdan68
@forddan68
Club Retro Rides Member 68
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Jul 26, 2018 19:50:24 GMT
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If it’s old an it annoys your neighbours That’s fine for me regardless of what it is Nuff said as young people say....
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Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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