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Yup - the "First to See Will Buy" REALLY annoys me. If it's THAT good I won't bother because Jerry who works at the local garage will have already bought it for £100 over the asking price because it's obviously such a great car. Foxtrot Oscar, you twonk. Dreadful pictures used to be because people had rubbish cameras and also didn't know how to use them, but with the onset of digital cameras and decent smartphones, there shouldn't be an excuse. You can even do some basic editing on the phone such as turning it through 90 degrees or cropping out the bucket you've just used to wash it. There's no excuse for poor spelling of a car's name, but I suppose that you can expect some grammatical issues. Text-speak however makes me want to go round there and use fire. Having been into Minis in the past i can usually spot a ringer from many miles away. That, my friend, is very clearly a late-model Cooper and not the "1970 Mini 1000 with 1300 engine" you claim it is. I think the only thing "1970" on it is the scruffy-looking VIN plate you've screwed to the front panel whilst vainly hoping that nobody will notice. Or the genuine mk1/mk2 Cooper S that is a mk4 80s body made to look like a cooper sportspack but with a 60s V5.
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fad
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' All the weldings been done ' I wish I could say that about my car but alas, found a little more to do :-( Wonder what people will make of it if I sell and say "all the welding has been done. No. Really. ALL of it has been done." Mind you what does that even mean? " all the welding has been done"
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What annoys me when they say that is that it's the bits they can see that have been done around the extremities. Lovely pictures next to 25 year old flaky undersea they have not stripped off or looked under.
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lilbob
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Oct 19, 2017 17:54:48 GMT
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Wow that advert was soooo informative it must have taken seconds to write
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Oct 19, 2017 18:04:47 GMT
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Wow that advert was soooo informative it must have taken seconds to write I would surmise that the vendor 'th.1' is a minimalist.
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Oct 19, 2017 18:34:28 GMT
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swap my 160k car for your 77k motor!!!! yeah right.
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Oct 19, 2017 18:43:35 GMT
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Surprised no-one has said "sold as seen" yet. That's an instant "nope" for me.
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2001 vauxhall corsa 1972 VW Beetle 1986 Ford Capri Laser1999 BMW E36 323i Touring 1991 Volvo 940 estate 2002 Mazda 323f 2.0 sport 2016 Mercedes Sprinter 1999 nissan almera 1.4 1995 lexus gs300 1995 lexus ls400 1975 bmw 1602 fiat punto 2003 ford fiesta something else...
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Oct 19, 2017 18:48:15 GMT
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I should also add things like -
Serviced
Cam belt changed
And when you get there and look you find out that was with the previous owner 50k and 2 1/2 years ago and the current owner has done nothing but stick miles on it and rag it
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benzine
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Instant 'NOPE' in car advertsbenzine
@benzine
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Oct 19, 2017 19:25:51 GMT
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LARGE RAINBOW COMIC SANS
Edit: comic sans is shown in the preview but not when posted. Probably for the best anyway!
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Last Edit: Oct 19, 2017 19:26:58 GMT by benzine
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Oct 19, 2017 21:32:04 GMT
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Surprised no-one has said "sold as seen" yet. That's an instant "nope" for me. I've always put that on a little bit of paper for both buyer and seller to sign once the car is sold: sold as seen, no guarantee given or implied, and all known faults made clear to buyer. Stops someone coming back later with "I've been driving like a curse word for 3 months and the engine blew up, you sold me a dodgy motor, I want my money back!".
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'69 Morris Minor '92 Scirocco Scala Standard formula, take a scruffy car, add fog/spotlights, roof racks, wide wheels and lower it a tad and job's a good 'un.
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Surprised no-one has said "sold as seen" yet. That's an instant "nope" for me. I've always put that on a little bit of paper for both buyer and seller to sign once the car is sold: sold as seen, no guarantee given or implied, and all known faults made clear to buyer. Stops someone coming back later with "I've been driving like a curse word for 3 months and the engine blew up, you sold me a dodgy motor, I want my money back!". I have no problem with it either but if it was on the actual sale ad i would not bother . 99.9% of people would be fine if something went wrong a while later that was beyond knowing about , its just that time when you advertise that cheap fast car and a meathead comes and buys it and it goes wrong .... thats when you want to have it on the receipt !
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fad
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Surprised no-one has said "sold as seen" yet. That's an instant "nope" for me. I've always put that on a little bit of paper for both buyer and seller to sign once the car is sold: sold as seen, no guarantee given or implied, and all known faults made clear to buyer. Stops someone coming back later with "I've been driving like a curse word for 3 months and the engine blew up, you sold me a dodgy motor, I want my money back!". You know it is actually meaningless, and consumer rights (and distance selling regulations if sold on Ebay, even as a private sale) still apply, right? (As in must be roadworthy and as described at point of sale - I'm not talking about sale of goods act).
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2017 6:29:58 GMT by fad
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chip83
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One day at a time....
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I've always put that on a little bit of paper for both buyer and seller to sign once the car is sold: sold as seen, no guarantee given or implied, and all known faults made clear to buyer. Stops someone coming back later with "I've been driving like a curse word for 3 months and the engine blew up, you sold me a dodgy motor, I want my money back!". You know it is actually meaningless, and consumer rights (and distance selling regulations if sold on Ebay, even as a private sale) still apply, right? (As in must be roadworthy and as described at point of sale - I'm not talking about sale of goods act). Think under consumer rights you have 7 days to return it.
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Quashqui and Yeti (needs must currently) SAAB 93 EST (Sold) Volvo S40(sold) Volvo V40(sold) MK2 astra aka "THE SHED"(sold) Mgb GT (crashed) Peugeot 405(sold) Orion 1600i (sold) Metro (scrapped) Mk1 Fiesta (Broken for spares) Mk5 Cortina (crashed)
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Oct 20, 2017 12:06:01 GMT
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I've always put that on a little bit of paper for both buyer and seller to sign once the car is sold: sold as seen, no guarantee given or implied, and all known faults made clear to buyer. Stops someone coming back later with "I've been driving like a curse word for 3 months and the engine blew up, you sold me a dodgy motor, I want my money back!". You know it is actually meaningless, and consumer rights (and distance selling regulations if sold on Ebay, even as a private sale) still apply, right? (As in must be roadworthy and as described at point of sale - I'm not talking about sale of goods act). Roadworthy, yes, unless description specifies poor general condition or specific problems have been detailed, (e.g. 'restoration project' or 'brakes require attention'). Mechanical condition is another thing, I don't think anyone reasonable expects a guarantee with a cheap older car, particularly if it's a high mileage example, that's the gamble you take when buying used cars. There are things you can do to mitigate against potential mechanical issues, e.g. know what you're looking for when inspecting & test driving the car, you could even consider buying a warranty if you can get cover for that particular model, (vehicles such as Jaguar XK-R & XJ-R V8's need not apply). If the vendor has been careless and made generalisations such as 'excellent condition throughout' and it drops a valve 50 miles later you'd have some leverage against them.
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Oct 20, 2017 12:08:01 GMT
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You know it is actually meaningless, and consumer rights (and distance selling regulations if sold on Ebay, even as a private sale) still apply, right? (As in must be roadworthy and as described at point of sale - I'm not talking about sale of goods act). Think under consumer rights you have 7 days to return it. I'm not certain but I doubt that would apply to a private sale. If it has been advertised with misleading statements then you could probably persuade them to return your money under threat of a civil action.
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fad
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Oct 20, 2017 12:29:51 GMT
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Consumer rights don't apply to a private sale.
What does apply is if you described something that clearly wasn't (gearbox is new " when its not, for example.
In either case "sold as seen" means absolutely nothing.
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Oct 20, 2017 13:43:15 GMT
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But it is still likely to be effective in slowing the buyer down in coming back with accusations and / or problems
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Oct 20, 2017 15:00:12 GMT
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What do we think of pictures like this? Dark underground car park Need to get my advert up & due to rain the only time I have to get pics is at work in the dark atm (plate only blanked for forum purposes)
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2017 19:36:34 GMT by joem83
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Oct 20, 2017 15:36:37 GMT
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Maybe our standards have got tougher now. If you can remember pre-internet days, retro/classic/modified cars used to be sold from magazine classified ads. You got a single 6cm photo (colour if you were lucky) and a few lines of text. And people would buy cars based on that minimal info.
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Instant 'NOPE' in car advertsaccord83
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Oct 20, 2017 18:34:05 GMT
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I hate adverts that have reams of marque and model history followed by a very short paragraph about the actual car. I don't need to know who designed it, how rare the rear ashtray, spot light etc. extras are, just tell me about the damn car for sale. If it's a bit unusual I will do/have done my own googlefooing. I never get past the first line of the ad usually.
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74 Mk1 Escort 1360, 1971 Vauxhall Victor SL2000 Estate.
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