jamesd1972
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Hi All, I thought it might be nice to try and get something up for other people to read (or not) as some payback for all the enjoyment I get reading and contributing to other people’s threads. Nobody is going to be interested in a not very retro Land Rover and its issues (this isn’t a Land Rover forum it’s too nice for that !) so I’ll spare you deeply interesting details on the gearbox / clutch change we are in the middle of. There’s nothing that a big hammer won’t fix anyway. But I did wonder if you might all be sad enough to have a little fun identifying my odd collection of 80’s wheel trims? These were mostly collected from the side of the A414 between Hatfield and Hertford when cycling to school in the late 80’s. These have been sat in two boxes since approx. 1990 and have moved house at least 5 times without coming out. Rather obviously they are going to end up on a wall in my huge multi-car garage workshop complete with 2 post lift, lathe etc. when (not if -you have to hold onto the dream) that gets built. In the meantime they provide ammunition for my wife about storing curse word that is of no real use. My suggested format is this, (but open to debate not at all precious):
I post a photo of one of my approx. 40 wheel trims for you to identify. Once I’m done (one/day) I’ll leave it for you to carry on (no wheels allowed)
Beard points awarded thus:
Correct identification of make model and importantly spec. 5 points (On your own conscience if you google it first…)
Nice photo found on Google posted +10 points
Photo of your car back in the day with matching wheel trims +25 points
Photo of your current retro with the same wheel trim +50 points
So to kick it all off :
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jamesd1972
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Tarka
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Love this kind of thing. I always enjoyed the car themed challenges on You Bet during the 80s. I remember the taillight identification one - nailed it and then the much tougher identification by the noise the door shut made - impossible! At school I was able to identify the make, model and often trim level by wing mirror... So back to trims. Not sure if we can start yet, or are we waiting for another 39? I will therefore spoil the thread by confirming that this is a broken trim from a Ford Granada GL - the trim was used on both mk2 and early mk3 in L spec I think. I recall it could also have been an option on the Sierra for a short time.
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Last Edit: Jul 18, 2017 18:23:34 GMT by Tarka
Sharks in the garage.🐬🇩🇪 I'll finish my projects when you've finished your's!😎😜
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Tarka
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I'm sat by the side of the swimming pool watching my daughter swim at this early hour, so this thread has got my mind spinning lol! My formative car years were the 80s, so wheel trims are important to me!!
Wheel trims were a big deal in the 80s, when sales reps were very aware of the status that driving a GLX gave them, over a lower model. It was probably Ford that started this with the Sierra, but I also remember Vauxhall playing the same game with the Cavalier and at some point in the probably early 90s, only the CD & GSI came with alloys. Every model beneath it had a different wheel trim. L, GL, GLS, SRi and then the Special Editions! Don't forget, Nova, Astra and Carlton had their own model specific trims which again were all different.
When you compare the UKs behaviour to the Germans it was miles apart. I think VW used the same wheel pressing and basic trim styles across various cars. BMW and Mercedes even more so.
The cost of all the different moulds for Ford and Vauxhall was obviously covered by the fervent urge to have the latest and best spec.
I still notice when a modern day car manufacturer digs deep and allows a plastic trim into the range. Really struggling to think of a current flavour.
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Sharks in the garage.🐬🇩🇪 I'll finish my projects when you've finished your's!😎😜
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Tarka
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Elwoody - this could get interesting (for me lol). I bet that Ford used different trims on differently specs in Germany during the same period. Did all the various flavours exist there? It would have been most prolific when the facelift Sierra and Sapphire came out in about 1988. L, LX, GL, GLX etc. Then alloys for 2000E, Ghia, Cosworth etc.
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Sharks in the garage.🐬🇩🇪 I'll finish my projects when you've finished your's!😎😜
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jamesd1972
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Jul 18, 2017 10:26:52 GMT
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Love this kind of thing. I always enjoyed the car themed challenges on You Bet during the 80s. I remember the taillight identification one - nailed it and then the much tougher identification by the noise the door shut made - impossible! At school I was able to identify the make, model and often trim level by wing mirror... So back to trims. Not sure if we can start yet, or are we waiting for another 39? I will therefore spoil the thread by confirming that this is a broken trim from a Ford Granada GL - the trim was used on both mk2 and early mk3 in L spec I think. I recall it could also have been an option on the Sierra for a short time.
Hi Tarka, yes, thank you for winning the first points, that was sort of the plan I have photoed the first box up so will chuck them up one at a time 'At school I was able to identify the make, model and often trim level by wing mirror...' Think I was probably as bad...
'I recall it could also have been an option on the Sierra for a short time. ' not sure on that one so there are still beard points available - you can all keep your own scores !
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jamesd1972
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Jul 18, 2017 10:32:27 GMT
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... When you compare the UKs behaviour to the Germans it was miles apart. I think VW used the same wheel pressing and basic trim styles across various cars. BMW and Mercedes even more so. ... You´re probably right, I (= german) would not be able to tell the spec by a wheel trim - unless it was the painted one of a polo fox (= low spec). And sierra was my first thought on that trim - but could not find a single pic to prove that. Had no idea we were quite that weird on Trims here compared to Europe. It was a real car class thing at the time - different trims were important back then
'And sierra was my first thought on that trim - but could not find a single pic to prove that.' need proof on this one for the points.
Think I need lessons from Georgeb on how to multi-quote threads but nice (worrying !) to find out I wasn't the only one who finds this kind of detail interesting
james
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jamesd1972
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Jul 18, 2017 11:08:46 GMT
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Elwoody - this could get interesting (for me lol). I bet that Ford used different trims on differently specs in Germany during the same period. Did all the various flavours exist there? ... Tbh: I have no idea. I kind of like wheel trims today, but not all, only a few. I could rather tell alloys of that time and what car and spec they came with. I did not answer for points, but this thread might get interesting - bookmarked. Alloys are a different game completely If you don´t insist on georgeb´s lessons: To multiquote you can type in the necessary html codes by hand or copy&paste&modify them. It´s (quote) before and (/quote) behind the text you want to quote, BUT: instead of ( and ) you need to use [ and ] (AltGr + 8 and 9 if you are not used to use them regularly). Just try, but don´t answer on this, I will remove this later as it´s too OT. Just LIKE it to confirm you´ve read it. If this works we can call the basics of the lesson in place - using the BBCode option ?
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jamesd1972
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Jul 18, 2017 12:30:17 GMT
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And the next one...
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Jul 18, 2017 14:32:02 GMT
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I was thinking cavalier mk2 immediately. 1.6 L was my first thought but it took me ages to find proof www.flickriver.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/5905700790/I think my mate's dad had them on his white saloon. B plate i think it was. Though maybe it was newer, He bought a mk3 while I was still in primary school I thought sierra for the first one - but the ones I found were slightly different car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay858837.jpgI havent posted the images direct in case the hosts do a fit, images were found on google
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Tarka
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Jul 18, 2017 18:18:10 GMT
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Pologaz - I agree on Cavalier L. I think these were on a mild facelift of the mk2 which was accompanied by nicer grille and smoother / flatter taillights. I think it's a 1987 update.
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Sharks in the garage.🐬🇩🇪 I'll finish my projects when you've finished your's!😎😜
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jamesd1972
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Jul 18, 2017 19:24:54 GMT
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Going to have to get some harder ones up....
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skinnylew
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Jul 18, 2017 21:48:27 GMT
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oooooo bit late to the party but Cavalier mk2 lol I used to collect hubcaps/wheel trims when i was in my teens (90's). Friends of my parents used to put them on our door step in carrier bags. At one point i had over 100! I used to sell them for a bit of extra pocket money, occasionally i'd get a whole set of 4. If my memory serves me correctly Vauxhalls were the worst, had loads of them. Had some rare ones as well, metal mercedes ones, Alfa Romeo one, 5 star Vauxhall inner. Loads of generic ones and some interesting Austin Rover ones. These days you see less and less by the road side as everything comes with alloys or the method of securing them has improved (or cable ties are cheaper?)
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jamesd1972
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Vauxhall definitely feature heavily but Austin-Rover might run them close!
% of cars with alloys must be over 80% now, if you had alloys in the 90's high risk of getting them nicked especially in your 205 GTI - but can't remember last time I heard anyone getting a wheel nicked. James
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Jul 19, 2017 10:17:10 GMT
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Now this is a good thread. Baggy 1st guess on the next one lol.
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jamesd1972
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Jul 19, 2017 10:58:08 GMT
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alx
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Jul 19, 2017 11:08:08 GMT
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jamesd1972
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Jul 19, 2017 11:23:42 GMT
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Now this is a good thread. Baggy 1st guess on the next one lol. How did that work for you ? If you had said nothing you might have got away with it....
However I think alx may be close but not lighting up that cigar just yet.
Should we introduce -ve beard points of shame for incorrect guesses ?
James
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Jul 19, 2017 11:24:17 GMT
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Still too easy - Maestro VP too.
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96 E320 W210 Wafter - on 18" split Mono's - Sold :-( 10 Kia Ceed Sportwagon - Our new daily 03 Import Forester STi - Sold 98 W140 CL500 AMG - Brutal weekend bruiser! Sold :-( 99 E240 S210 Barge - Now sold 02 Accord 2.0SE - wife's old daily - gone in PX 88 P100 2.9efi Custom - Sold
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jamesd1972
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Jul 19, 2017 11:36:22 GMT
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Still too easy - Maestro VP too. Not convinced by your argument - photo ?
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