MrOtter
West Midlands
"Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book." - Moog
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Jun 28, 2017 14:09:03 GMT
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I do wonder what's wrong with me sometimes. I also wonder exactly how much longer I'm going to come up with excuses for not starting work on my Jaguar project... I've always wanted a big, silly, loud, American car, particularly after following the adventures of Roadkill on Youtube for the past few years. I love muscle cars of the 60s, but most of them are beyond my price range. Well, all I can do now is blame ebay and my excitable bidding finger, for landing me with this slice of American history (well, it's more like the whole pie than just a slice, this thing is ENORMOUS). I bought it with the belief that it was a little more roadworthy than it actually is, but hey that's all part of the fun right?! Here, have some photos before we continue. IMG_1161 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr IMG_1162 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr IMG_1163 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr IMG_1165 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr IMG_1166 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr Excuse the poor photos, there isn't enough room on the drive to get far back enough to get the whole car in one shot! Amazingly I bought this thing with an MOT, but it really shouldn't have one! The rear wheels didn't fit, the washer pump was seized, the headlights and turn signals don't work, the horn doesn't work, it's more filler than steel in a worringly large number of places, it's been off the road apparently since 1980 and it's only been on this side of the pond for about 6 months or so. ANYWAY, on to the positives! It has great patina, a 352 FE V8 with just a single glass pack muffler, the interior is in lovely condition, and it has had a small bit of work done by the previous owner. Rebuilt carb, rebuilt brakes (single circuit, drums all round, yikes!), flushed cooling system and fuel tank, and fairly new wheels and tyres. The clocks say it's only done about 27,000 miles too. I've already done some work on it just to try and make it actually roadworthy, but I hit a major snag when the fuel pump diaphragm expired and left me stranded only a mile or so from home. One of many old rubber components that'll give me grief for a while no doubt. I'm sure I'll have plentiful updates on this thing over the coming months, just waiting for a load of parts to turn up from the states now so might be a few weeks! I'll just work towards getting it driving reliably first, then later on I would like to upgrade the brakes and maybe think about getting a few more horses from the engine. The stickers on the car are based on the #0 car driven by Dan Gurney in the 1963 Daytona 500, in which he finished 5th. The car isn't an exact replica, but I wouldn't want blue wheels and it'd be a shame to remove all the lovely trim pieces from the car! Y'all take care now!
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Last Edit: Jun 28, 2017 17:21:55 GMT by MrOtter
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morrisoxide
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Jun 28, 2017 14:56:44 GMT
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This is very cool, I'll be following this one. No doubt you'll have fun in it, it will attract attention wherever you go. I like that there's so many routes you can go down with these. The fuel pump went on mine the other weekend, it was a cheap aftermarket electrical one, because the original one died. The parts I've had have come fairly quickly form states. I get my parts from Macs auto parts cg Ford parts Rockauto You can still get pretty much every thing for these.
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Jun 28, 2017 15:49:20 GMT
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This has just jumped to number one in awesome cars in my head, can't wait for updates
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Jun 28, 2017 15:53:48 GMT
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You may know that I am not a fan of Nascar
Love this.
Will be watching.
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andyborris
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Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
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Jun 28, 2017 18:34:59 GMT
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Gurneylicious!
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Jun 28, 2017 19:59:04 GMT
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That's looks awesome exactly how it is I'm very jealous
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Jun 28, 2017 21:09:54 GMT
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i was watching that on ebay, love those cars
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Jun 28, 2017 21:12:12 GMT
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i was watching that on ebay, love those cars
there was a really tidy one on for 12k too, but still too much for me
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MrOtter
West Midlands
"Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book." - Moog
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Jun 30, 2017 13:14:20 GMT
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This is very cool, I'll be following this one. No doubt you'll have fun in it, it will attract attention wherever you go. I like that there's so many routes you can go down with these. The fuel pump went on mine the other weekend, it was a cheap aftermarket electrical one, because the original one died. The parts I've had have come fairly quickly form states. I get my parts from Macs auto parts cg Ford parts Rockauto You can still get pretty much every thing for these. That's what appealed to me too, that there's so much you can do to them, American classics do seem to have a well-supported spares/aftermarket scene! I'm replacing the pump on mine with another mechanical one, it was only £18 from Rockauto and I didn't think it was worth going to an electric pump. Thanks for the links, as mentioned I've already used Rockauto for a bunch of stuff along with the pump, came out a lot cheaper than I was expecting! Glad that people seem interested in this! I'll go over what I did in the first couple of days tinkering before the fuel pump died. So, to be able to actually drive this thing, the first big problem I had to sort was that the rear wheels were too big for the car. The PO must've got it MOT'd on it's original wheels or something, because I found out very quickly that the car was undriveable with these ones fitted. As shown here by the amount of rubber that'd gone missing from the sidewall after doing about 200 yards down the road and back. IMG_1168 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr The car has spacers fitted to the rear, as without them the wide tyres rub on the leaf spring on the inside edge. The PO said that 10mm spacers weren't enough so he fitted a set of 30mm spacers, which means the tyres clear the springs but then, as I found out, they rub on the wheel wells on the outer side. I had thought maybe I should try 20mm spacers and see if that's the sweet spot, but then I thought to myself, what would Roadkill do? So, firstly I jacked up the car and took off the wheels. 275 60 R15s wrapped around a 15x10 smooth steel wheel. HNNNNNG. 15x8's on the front with the same tyres. IMG_1167 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr Little bit of rubbing perhaps? IMG_1169 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr As you can kind of see at the bottom of the photo above, and as mentioned before, the rear arches aren't in the best of health - lots of rust and filler. With this in mind, I decided the easiest way to clearance the wheels was to just cut out some clearance from the inner arch. The tyre can't rub if there's no metal to rub against. I couldn't get any decent pictures in there, but I cut out about an A4 size piece of steel on both sides of the car. The tyres do still rub going over a speed bump, but I can't see where they're rubbing and I can't simulate that suspension compression on the driveway, but the car is at least driveable now! They are a tight fit under there... oh and don't worry, I'll weld the holes back up again sometime, but not much point doing it now when there's no lower edge to weld to. IMG_1173 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr So, the next bit of tinkering was to solve this little problem. IMG_1164 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr That was a fairly quick job to do, I replaced a couple of lengths of 5/8" heater hose that had gone as hard and brittle as rotten wood. Never seen such perished rubber! The hose above split whilst I was revving the car up on the driveway, so not a big issue. It was after this I went out for a drive and the fuel pump expired. I've ordered the parts needed and they'll hopefully be here in the next week or so. In the meantime I've been fiddling with the washer pump. I mentioned that the old one was seized, and I broke it messing around to try and unseize it so I needed a new one. The OEM style ones seem a little hard to come by (most places I checked just listed a universal style pump and washer bottle for the car, and original metal style ones were a bit expensive) I decided to adapt something a bit cheaper and closer to home. So, after spending a smidge over £10 on ebay, I had this. IMG_1175 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr I wanted to keep the pump looking as original as possible, so decided to go on a long winded process to fit this Lucas pump inside the old Ford pump housing. The original pump is in the middle, with it's cover plate off to the right. There was a motor on top, with a little drive plate that spun the pump impellers in the base. IMG_1177 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr I kind of broke the wafer thin drive plate trying to rotate the pump shaft... IMG_1178 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr But it was obviously a bit knackered anyway. IMG_1179 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr So, first thing I did to the Lucas pump was remove the mounting plate. Easy peasy, three little screws. IMG_1180 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr Back to the Ford pump, I used my powerfile to grind through the rivet heads and release the old impeller housing. No wonder it wouldn't turn... IMG_1181 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr I then ground the rivets holding the motor in and got the die grinder out to open up the top surface of the housing. IMG_1183 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr So I could slot the Lucas pump in. IMG_1184 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr I drilled three holes in the base to let me screw the new pump in place. Was a little too low to get hoses on though. IMG_1185 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr So I squeezed a couple of washers underneath each of the screw holes. IMG_1186 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr Then I chopped about the original electrical connector. IMG_1187 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr I wanted to keep the factory wiring the same if I could, so thought I'd try and hide the new wiring inside the housing. I needed to join up the positive terminal on the pump to the connector stub above. I then also needed to hook up the negative terminal to the pump housing, as the original pump was grounded through the housing through a fixing screw in to the firewall. So, with a bit of bad soldering and some crimping and bending, I had this. IMG_1189 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr IMG_1190 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr Lovely. Except the nozzles were now nowhere near the holes on the casing. So I drilled a couple more. IMG_1192 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr Giving me this. IMG_1194 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr I then whacked it in the car, temporarily feeding off a watering can. IMG_1196 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr Worked like a charm! I really like the washer nozzles on this car, it's so simple and clean, just a couple of bits of pipe hiding beneath the cowl vent. IMG_1197 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr The reason I was feeding the pump from a watering can was because the original washer fluid bag (yes, bag, I didn't know old cars had fluid bags!) was leaking like a sieve. I've got a new one coming from the states, for about £35! What a fantastic bit of design though, that they made a washer bag so stylish and with slogans and logos on it. Brilliant! IMG_1198 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr Then the only other thing I've done is tighten up a leaky power steering return hose, and swap the battery positive cable. The old one was pretty new so must've been broken by the PO, the clamp was snapped so you couldn't tighten it up, it was jammed in place with a self tapping screw when I bought the car. IMG_1199 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr IMG_1200 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr That's up to date then, hopefully the next update will be about swapping the fuel pump and firing it up again! I'll be sure to get a video for you all! I really need to fix the lights and turn signals before I drive it again though, and the fuses are (sadly) all good, so I might have some electrical gremlin chasing to do soon...
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Last Edit: Jun 30, 2017 18:53:05 GMT by MrOtter
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Jun 30, 2017 13:25:52 GMT
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Awesome car! Great detail work on the pump.
Oh, and bookmarked so I'm along for the journey!
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96 E320 W210 Wafter - on 18" split Mono's - Sold :-( 10 Kia Ceed Sportwagon - Our new daily 03 Import Forester STi - Sold 98 W140 CL500 AMG - Brutal weekend bruiser! Sold :-( 99 E240 S210 Barge - Now sold 02 Accord 2.0SE - wife's old daily - gone in PX 88 P100 2.9efi Custom - Sold
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ovimor
North East
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Hillman IMP has a 'screen wash bag', on the l/h inner wing.
Thumb powered jets though...
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Last Edit: Jul 1, 2017 19:39:19 GMT by ovimor
Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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Pid363!
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Love NASCAR love this car bookmarked!
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I've always wanted a big, silly, loud, American car, particularly after following the adventures of Roadkill on Youtube for the past few years. I love muscle cars of the 60s, but most of them are beyond my price range. Well, all I can do now is blame ebay and my excitable bidding finger, for landing me with this slice of American history (well, it's more like the whole pie than just a slice, this thing is ENORMOUS). I bought it with the belief that it was a little more roadworthy than it actually is, but hey that's all part of the fun right?! Here, have some photos before we continue. Nearly bought one of these...but didn't. Nearly bought something else...but didn't. Bought something else though..... I'm only in warwick so we should pow wow. Did you get stung with import tax on the rockauto order? Matt
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this thing is awesome, looking forward to updates
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Oh my.
I do love a Galaxie 500.
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Take the Next slot right coming up on the left.
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Love watching these things slither around goodwood with a Mini Cooper hot on their tails (for about 3 laps until the galaxies romp off into the distance). Awesome machine, be interested to see what it looks like compared to a big modern estate like a 5 series or A6. Bookmarked :-)
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coyote
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my definition of "beyond cool"? this.
i'm gonna cry myself to sleep...
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Don`t eat yellow snow!
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Bookmarked.
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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jpsmit
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Jul 11, 2017 19:27:26 GMT
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MrOtter
West Midlands
"Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book." - Moog
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Jul 24, 2017 16:47:47 GMT
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I've always wanted a big, silly, loud, American car, particularly after following the adventures of Roadkill on Youtube for the past few years. I love muscle cars of the 60s, but most of them are beyond my price range. Well, all I can do now is blame ebay and my excitable bidding finger, for landing me with this slice of American history (well, it's more like the whole pie than just a slice, this thing is ENORMOUS). I bought it with the belief that it was a little more roadworthy than it actually is, but hey that's all part of the fun right?! Here, have some photos before we continue. Nearly bought one of these...but didn't. Nearly bought something else...but didn't. Bought something else though..... I'm only in warwick so we should pow wow. Did you get stung with import tax on the rockauto order? Matt Sorry for the delay in replying... mmm, just seen your new purchase, these two would go well with each other! As for import tax, it's all dealt with at their end so yes there is tax but it's paid for upfront so doesn't come as a shock later on. That's how it's been with all the stuff I've bought for it actually, seems like these places have their procedures in order nowadays to keep it easy for us. Pow wow sounds good, still trying to make this thing roadworthy but I might've cracked it now, we'll see tomorrow when I try taking it for a drive! Love watching these things slither around goodwood with a Mini Cooper hot on their tails (for about 3 laps until the galaxies romp off into the distance). Awesome machine, be interested to see what it looks like compared to a big modern estate like a 5 series or A6. Bookmarked :-) As it so happens there's currently an '08 RS6 next to the Galaxie, so here's a slightly skewed comparison shot. The Ford is still bigger in all dimensions except height I think! Good idea taking a photo from the bathroom window too, I can actually get the whole car in DSCN2683 by Sven Cumner, on Flickr I've been making progress but not keeping up with the updates, so I'll try and get on it again tomorrow and let you all know how it's going. In the mean time, have this bad quality video from my phone... (click to watch) 63 Galaxie Exhaust Sound by Sven Cumner, on Flickr
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Last Edit: Jul 24, 2017 16:48:10 GMT by MrOtter
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