mad
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May 19, 2017 13:41:21 GMT
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Hi folks, Thought you guys and girls might be interested in my new (to me) car. Its a Reliant Scimitar brought completely blind on fleabay. Got it delieved this week and havnt yet had a chance to have a proper poke about. Anyway heres a few pics So story goes it was rebuilt quite a few years ago in late 80's to be used as a trackday/hill climb car. Its been off the road since and i was expecting the worse when i brought it. Turns out it is pretty much complete in as far as ready for an MOT. All the necessary electrics work, starts and stops just needs handbrake looking at. Now heres the worse/interesting bit Thats right a 1.8 ford turbo diesel. It sounds like a tractor and according to wiki has 90bhp..... but it works. Current thought is check all basics and then mot car. Iron out any small issues then look at doing an engine swap. It has a type 9 gearbox so any old ford engine should fit but i really fancy a turbo or possibly v8. I'm also toying with the idea of sticking a different body on it as the scimitar rear end really isnt doing anything for me. Thats all in the distant future though. For now get it on the road and enjoy some retro motoring.
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May 19, 2017 15:08:49 GMT
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Known about these cars for a long time but I don't know much about them. The Reliant is a great example of the "Cottage Built Cars" era that was so quintessentially British. Have to disagree with your summation of the rear view. It reminds me of the Volvo P1800 ES; a car that I quite like! As to the engine, I have to agree that it is not to my taste. Any convenient chassis swaps that would work with the Scimitar bodyshell? I was thinking RX8 as the wheelbases are only 3" off and they have similar 2+2 kinda rear seating.
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Last Edit: May 19, 2017 15:17:56 GMT by bjornagn
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May 19, 2017 18:29:31 GMT
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Ah. That explains the single rear exhaust. A car to challenge the cockroaches for longevity? Steel chassis. GRP body. Basic-as-bedamned diesel engine.
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May 19, 2017 19:12:37 GMT
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I take it that the oil burner wasn't in it in it's hillclimbing days! I would hang on to the body and dump the rest , its a looker in my book.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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bortaf
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May 19, 2017 19:22:06 GMT
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The diesel box will only fit on V6's and the B/H will need changing, to fit a 4pot the input shaft will need shortening and the B/H changing. At least it's a mondeo engine and not the earlyer RWD TD, bit more power and economy body looks OK as well allways liked these and who couldn't love those wheels
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R.I.P photobucket
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mattiwagon
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May 19, 2017 19:36:55 GMT
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Bmw diesel drivetrain
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Last Edit: May 19, 2017 19:38:47 GMT by mattiwagon
If they cant be nice f**k em!
84 low t25 panel 1.9td beige and rust combo 97 Goped Bigfoot G260RC with clutch conversion 97 Impreza turbo 2000 builders wagon 76k sold 04 Fabia vRs 50mpg pocket rocket 04 battered T5 pickup in blue! Chainsaws lotsa Chainsaws
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mad
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Feb 18, 2018 17:54:46 GMT
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Right time for an update..... I've been a bit busy over the last 6 months and not really touched the scimitar but finally times freed up and got cracking this weekend. First job was to get the old diesel out. Nothing too complicated just weighted a fricking ton. So this is now up for sale if anyone on here wants it. Need to do a little research to find out what its worth if anyone or here can help with that. Its got a type 9 box with a quick shift which has got to be worth a few hundred. Was thinking of selling as a job lot as. While i wasnt able to work on the scimitar i had been busy collecting and researching a replacement engine. Decided to go for a saab B204 lump. Managed to get a ridiculously low mileage auto saab93 for a few hundred quid and pull all the bits i think i need. Theres a few cars out there already running this lump in rwd but not very well documented so going to be a suck it and see type install. I've got a few more pieces to get then i'll get some photos up of where I'm at with the engine
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Last Edit: Feb 18, 2018 17:55:37 GMT by mad
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mad
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Feb 18, 2018 18:04:56 GMT
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Also let me know if the first pictures arn't loading as they are on photobucket from before the day they broke the internet
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CaptainSlog
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Reliant Scimitar restomodCaptainSlog
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Feb 19, 2018 14:34:25 GMT
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Pictures work - don't know how long for though.
Keep us posted, this looks interesting. Throw that diesel lump as far away as possible, preferably into water..
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Feb 19, 2018 17:48:19 GMT
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I don't get the top pics loading at all (although I know what the car looks like).
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1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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ivangt6
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Feb 19, 2018 18:46:17 GMT
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A ford 5 cylinder turbo engine would be great in this. I reckon the back end would look a lot nicer if that boxy bit above the number plate wasn't there and also the recesses at the sides where the bumper sits. Looks like a good project anyway and a nice big engine bay waiting for something interesting to fill it
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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Feb 19, 2018 18:55:03 GMT
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Nice one!
Bookmarked.
Will be interested to see what you do with this. I agree about the rear end... they're almost nice but no quite nice. They look better with a bumper and different rear lights IMHO.
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mad
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Right time for an update..... Been busy with life and other distractions it was finally time to sink some time into the old boat. Was struggling with motivation at the beginning so things went slowly and didn't take any pictures but basically I Brought a Saab 93 Ripped out the engine and other useful bits Brought an Rx8 gearbox Dismantled the gearbox and skimmed 15mm of the bellhousing Reassembled (hopefully correctly) Brought Vauxhall mazda adaptor plate Few bolts later Then with some sweating and profanity got it in the engine bay with a few blocks of wood propping it up. Checked clearances and then knocked up some engine mounts. Only needed a slight trim to the bulkhead which makes life easy for me. Heres the one I decided was worth photographing I was able to order my prop now the engine was in from BAR props in wales. Fantastic service, can really recommend. They always seem very patient and helpful when an idiot like me rings up and has to lay under the car measuring things on the phone. Next big job was the sump. Although the standard one fitted there were a few people who reported oil starvation so not wanting to risk blowing the engine. Ordered a flange and had a bash and making a rear bowl. With a couple of baffles Hopefully it should work. Pretty sure I can drop the sump with the engine in the car so not entirely horrendous if it does have to come out. Gave it all a lick of paint. Can seen the engine and gearbox mounts here too. Sump back on I then knocked up and adaptor plate to spin a 9000 exhaust manifold to give me a top mount turbo. Also had a go at making my first AN braided lines which weren't to scary During this engine out stage I dropped the fuel tank and fitted a 15mm outlet. Put a bosch 044 pump under the car and run the wires and fuel lines up the chassis rail. Also move the battery cable as someone had already moved the battery to the boot. Again all this was made up as I went along so only time will tell if it works. Will get a pic of the pump when I'm doing the exhaust this weekend but heres the other lines. Que more swearing First thing I wanted to check was the clutch as its a real mixture of bits and I had a funny feeling about it. Turns out I was right as I clearance issues so back out again. 3 friction plates later I get a mixture of bits that actually work and threw it back in. Was a dab hand at it by now so didn't take long and far less swearing. Anyway, clutch bled and working fine, prop fitted. I then had a crack at turning up some adaptors for the oil cooler. Going from weird push fit saab connectors to AN10 They fit, whether they seal or not time will tell. If they don't i'll probably just get them tig straight on. Fitted the intercooler and oil cooler. Had a bit of Perspex laying around for the top support. Not sure how long it will last before it goes brittle but will prove concept and swap out later for sheet metal. Now I've just got some wiring, plumbing and an exhaust to knock up before I can test fire the engine. I really fancy taking it to retro show at santa pod but that's only a couple of weeks away now so might be a tall ask. Especially since ive just ripped the dash out to sort the interior wiring. Also need to find a cheap electronic speedo. Anyway got a bit of mojo back so will endeavour to try. Hopefully take a few more pictures along the way.
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Last Edit: Jun 6, 2018 19:00:37 GMT by mad
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Looking good! Was the sump made from scratch then? Also how's the new welder working out?
I'll be at santa pod if you make your deadline, although with far less power!
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1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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So Reliant car , Saab engine, Mazda gearbox,etc. Bookmarked !
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mad
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Bit more progress. Knocked up an exhaust, managed to make a 3" downpipe as recommended by tuning guides. Starting with the standard t25 flange Took a 3" tight bend and made a few cuts Add a bit of straight, another bend and lambda boss and..... This looks pretty straight forward but where its running there isnt much wiggle room. It then goes from 3" down to 2" along the car to the back. In an ideal world it would be 3" all the way but i used what i had and its just to get the car rolling. If all goes well i'll probably be swapping the turbo so will have to remake all this anyway. Changed the gearbox oil and engine oil and while under there i took a picture of the pump and filter. I'm thinking of making some sort of splash guard up just to keep the muck and rain out. I checked the fuel loop by powering up the pump and apart from a loose hoseclip all seemed good. Next job was to sort the slack in the steering rack. Stripped it all down and it looks like the bronze bush is worn and of course its impossible to buy new. This is said bush After a few dead ends and a bit of research ended up calling a old boy in a workshop somewhere and he had a dealer issued replacement. It nylon and was the replacement issued by reliant at the time. Hopefully its in the post and should have it for the weekend. I also brought a set of mx5 seats but after a quick trial fit they seem to big. My head hits the ceiling when they are sat on the floor, will have another look tomorrow but looks like it might be back in with the buckets. Its not the end of the world they are just hard to get in and out of with the steering wheel. Oh and this is Mim pushing the limit on "No Dogs in the Garage!" Shes a retired greyhound we recently welcomed into our lives and been one of the best decisions we've made. Buckets of personality and soppy as hell.
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Looking good! Was the sump made from scratch then? Also how's the new welder working out? I'll be at santa pod if you make your deadline, although with far less power! That'll be cool, tbh i think I'm cutting it a bit close with getting there in the scimitar. Probably shoot over in the daily if its not done and the weathers good.
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Nice work. Mim looks nice also
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Well surprise surprise I didn't make it to retro weekender. The car was throwing up to many problems and in the end I cut my losses and had a BBQ. SO new target retro rides gathering. The steering bush finally turned up which was the main thing holding me back. Given a lick of paint and put back together Then back in the car I also overhauled the column while I was this far in as it also had a little bit of play. Its no wonder I never made my deadline, look at the help slacking off! Anyway.... Got more engine bits back in the bay including mounting the ecu and relays. Had a mare with the wiring as saab colour codes are inconsistent so you end up having to check the pin out on the ecu plug. This was another hurdle that took ages to sort and with a bit of help from the brother inlaw we got the right plugs to the right sensors and also sorted the starter, oil and charge wires. So this is said wiring. I know in an ideal world the ecu would be inside but its well away from the engine and heat. Plus with the amount of leaks these scimitars have its probably drier in there too. This a bit further along with plumbing, boost pipes and other small jobs that take forever to sort.
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Last Edit: Jul 5, 2018 15:29:58 GMT by mad
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After more small and tedious jobs last weekend I got the car looking like this. After over filling it with oil and struggling to get the thing to prime I was just about to abandon the first start and look at sump design when luckily it primed. The engines been dry for 6 months and also been upside down and thoroughly empty of oil so hopefully it was just a priming issue and not bad sump pickup. Anyway, got oil pressure. Fitted plugs and fuse for fuel pump. Fingers crossed..... IT STARTED! I kid you not on the first attempt after a couple of turns it caught. So pleased. I didn't have a steering wheel but I checked first gear and clutch which worked. SO many wins in one afternoon. I've now left it a couple of days and will see if the oil pressure light goes straight out when I start it next. Hopefully its all good and I wont have to redesign the sump. So things left to do are mainly wiring in the dash. Brought a electric speedo and sensor from rally design so fitting that this evening. And then got to tidy all this It looks worse than it is. All main electrical things work to pass and MOT just need to get it so it doesn't spontaneously combust. It will then be MOT time and next big challenge will be to see if it makes boost and if so how much. Will update when I get time but cant see any reason I shouldn't be making retro rides
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Last Edit: Jul 5, 2018 15:28:52 GMT by mad
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