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Apr 20, 2017 14:45:43 GMT
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Hi guys,
After never using one before I had the luxury of using one the other day. I was struggling getting some alloys off a loose hubs using a breaker bar. The garage it was at lent me a battery impact wrench (Snap On I believe) and it had all four bolts off in literally a second!
I need one of these magical tools!
Looking round there's a lot of differiant opinions on what's best, like makes and voltages. I don't want to spend a fortune but it's looking like they don't come cheap regardless. Looking at the prices of a battery and a charger as well as the impact wrench for a DeWalt (for example as they were recommended) is pushing £450!
Do any of the lovely people one here have any advice or recommendations of their own?
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Last Edit: Apr 20, 2017 15:52:09 GMT by MiniDan
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Pid363!
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Apr 20, 2017 15:41:56 GMT
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I need a new one had a sealey one lasted me about 13 years for hobby use but has had two new battery's and charger. Dewalt or Milwaukee look the best but big money. Tool station do have good deals on Milwaukee, friend of mines uses them at work every they have all Milwaukee stuff tried all the others but prefer them
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Apr 20, 2017 15:58:15 GMT
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Makita LXT, avoid the B&Q specials though, not LXT compatible and made of cheaper tat.
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turbom
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Apr 20, 2017 18:05:56 GMT
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Milwaukee and devault is out of my budget for home use.
any oather brands worth looking at???
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Apr 20, 2017 18:13:44 GMT
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Why not just buy a cheap one if thats all you want to spend , like a silverline ? Just had a look on amazon and you can get one thats on the mains so no worry about batteries etc , thats £46. Harldy going to break the bang and if it last a couple of year , great .
Your not going to be hammering it 24/7 unless your a professional mechanic are you ?
That one is rated to 350nm but there is a ' von haus' one rated at 500nm for £50 .That does look dodgy as i have never heard of them but silverline stuff imo seems pretty bloody good for the money , certainly good enough for home use .
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Apr 20, 2017 18:22:03 GMT
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Why not just buy a cheap one if thats all you want to spend , like a silverline ? Just had a look on amazon and you can get one thats on the mains so no worry about batteries etc , thats £46. Harldy going to break the bang and if it last a couple of year , great . Your not going to be hammering it 24/7 unless your a professional mechanic are you ? That one is rated to 350nm but there is a ' von haus' one rated at 500nm for £50 .That does look dodgy as i have never heard of them but silverline stuff imo seems pretty bloody good for the money , certainly good enough for home use . Another good corded one is this www.amazon.co.uk/Clarke-CEW1000-Electric-Impact-Wrench/dp/B0039BQRUO |
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Apr 20, 2017 18:43:43 GMT
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Kielder tools, there have been a couple of threads on here about them
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Apr 20, 2017 19:08:17 GMT
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Why not just buy a cheap one if thats all you want to spend , like a silverline ? Just had a look on amazon and you can get one thats on the mains so no worry about batteries etc , thats £46. Harldy going to break the bang and if it last a couple of year , great . Your not going to be hammering it 24/7 unless your a professional mechanic are you ? That one is rated to 350nm but there is a ' von haus' one rated at 500nm for £50 .That does look dodgy as i have never heard of them but silverline stuff imo seems pretty bloody good for the money , certainly good enough for home use . Another good corded one is this www.amazon.co.uk/Clarke-CEW1000-Electric-Impact-Wrench/dp/B0039BQRUOBit more piece of mind with that brand i suppose and not much more .TBH i only just realised you could get corded ones, lets face it most of probably don not need a battery one anyway and its so much cheaper , plus no hassle of the charger or batteries dying [ thats happened with cheap cordless stuff with me when not kept on charge ] |
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Apr 20, 2017 19:52:24 GMT
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For me, a corded one would be a pain in the  . Makita LXT, avoid the B&Q specials though, not LXT compatible and made of cheaper tat. Was looking at those ones and it was added to the shortlist. Kielder tools, there have been a couple of threads on here about them Just had a look on their website. They look a great piece of kit and a very reasonable price. Good call! |
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have a browse on ebay, I found a lot of used bodies in good nick, also package kits of a few bodies batteries and a charger.
for about £400 i have ended up with:
medium sized drill/driver/hammerdrill that I put a new armature into for £18.
1/4 hex drive impact gun
reciprocating saw.
torch
charger
4 3amp batteries (worth £50 each)
an angle grinder (best tool ever)
a friend has their medium sized 1/2" drive gun which will do stubborn wheel bolts on a good battery.
he also got the big curse word that outperforms anything else currently on the market for only £200.
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thing I like is the LXT batteries, available in a few different ampages, and the vast range of tools.
all servicable too.
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Apr 21, 2017 15:43:45 GMT
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Kielder tools, there have been a couple of threads on here about them This! I've got their impact driver, drill driver and combi drill. Can't rate them enough. I'll be buying their 1/2" & 1/4" Impact wrenches when I've got some spare cash too. Cheaper than the equivelant big branded products and excellent customer service. Small, local business ran by two car enthusiasts (if you can catch them at a show, they often offer 10% discount). |
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Apr 21, 2017 16:11:46 GMT
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Been looking today was thinking sealer cp2450 but now thinking kielder
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Apr 21, 2017 19:23:35 GMT
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Kielder tools, there have been a couple of threads on here about them This! I've got their impact driver, drill driver and combi drill. Can't rate them enough. I'll be buying their 1/2" & 1/4" Impact wrenches when I've got some spare cash too. Cheaper than the equivelant big branded products and excellent customer service. Small, local business ran by two car enthusiasts (if you can catch them at a show, they often offer 10% discount). Kielder are indeed the ones you should look at I paid £180 for mine from Machine Mart check this thread retrorides.proboards.com/thread/185997/budget-cordless-impact-wrench |
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Apr 22, 2017 20:19:35 GMT
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Why not just buy a cheap one if thats all you want to spend , like a silverline ? Just had a look on amazon and you can get one thats on the mains so no worry about batteries etc , thats £46. Harldy going to break the bang and if it last a couple of year , great . Your not going to be hammering it 24/7 unless your a professional mechanic are you ? That one is rated to 350nm but there is a ' von haus' one rated at 500nm for £50 .That does look dodgy as i have never heard of them but silverline stuff imo seems pretty bloody good for the money , certainly good enough for home use . Another good corded one is this www.amazon.co.uk/Clarke-CEW1000-Electric-Impact-Wrench/dp/B0039BQRUOI've got the Clarke corded one and it's rubbish - struggles with even wheel nuts :-( |
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Last Edit: Apr 22, 2017 21:20:17 GMT by sarkie83
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Apr 22, 2017 21:07:47 GMT
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The clarke ones are ni-cad still ain't they so don't touch them with a ten foot pole!
Have to say if I didn't have bosch kit already I would buy a kilder and give it a go. The ultimate at the moment seems to be Milkwalkee or maybe bosch but are pricey.. Dewalt, Makita, Snap-on are just usual overpriced tat now. Avoid.
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Apr 22, 2017 22:09:24 GMT
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I guess I may as well share my experience.
I have a Kielder and I have triad quite a few Snap On items with a mate of mine owning a Milwaukee Impact driver.
I bought the Kielder last year. TBH it's OK. I'm not sure if mine is faulty but it was brand new. In short;
Pros
-It is very light
-The batteries last an age
-The variable trigger makes life far easier
-The LED light for aiming is handy
Cons:
-A Snap-On/Milwaukee is stronger. Anything tighter than wheelnuts this will struggle to remove ; it struggles with wheel nuts unless you crack them off with a breaker bar. FWIW I have the 1/2" version. I seriosly doubt it can loosen to the quoted 450Nm that they band about.
Part of me wishes I went for a Snap On or Milwaukee or a secondhand Snap On ; I've not had the latter struggle on wheelnuts TBH and a tyre shop I know very well use them day in and day out for years without many issues. Pricey they may be but they do what a driver should IMHO ; loosen almost anything.
That said, despite the misleading torque figure I do use it alot! It really speeds up many jobs.
A good impact wrench is something you wonder how you did without it once you have one.
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Last Edit: Apr 22, 2017 22:10:15 GMT by ChasR
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Apr 22, 2017 22:13:41 GMT
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This! I've got their impact driver, drill driver and combi drill. Can't rate them enough. I'll be buying their 1/2" & 1/4" Impact wrenches when I've got some spare cash too. Cheaper than the equivelant big branded products and excellent customer service. Small, local business ran by two car enthusiasts (if you can catch them at a show, they often offer 10% discount). Kielder are indeed the ones you should look at I paid £180 for mine from Machine Mart check this thread retrorides.proboards.com/thread/185997/budget-cordless-impact-wrenchCan yours undo wheelnuts? If not I am semi tempted to return mine to Kielder and see if it is faulty. Besides this the gun itself is very good. It was superb with doing my mate's BMW E46 lollypop bushes today. |
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Apr 22, 2017 22:36:09 GMT
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Can yours undo wheelnuts? If not I am semi tempted to return mine to Kielder and see if it is faulty. Besides this the gun itself is very good. It was superb with doing my mate's BMW E46 lollypop bushes today. No, it can't mostly I bought it hoping it would be as good as anything i could imagine, unfortunately it can't do tight wheel bolts or rusty suspension bolts But i don't know what could If i was prepared to spend hundreds more a cordless wrench may undo them but it may not I haven't got electricity where i work and cannot afford an airline system I contacted Kielder because of my queries and they sent a fellow out to check out my wrench He spent over an hour here working on the same bolts i was struggling with and simply it won't work miracles. A rusty bolt is physically stopped due to the rust and only with Plusgas and working the nut back and forth will it come off Also, as he pointed out, there can't be as much torque compared to a breaker bar with you hanging off it In his opinion, an air wrench would deal with these bolts by snapping them I don't regret buying it as compared to the Clarke i had before it is lighter, smaller, more powerful and longer lasting The man from Kielder, as the instructions say, pointed out the guns loosen up with use. They are also able to tolerate relentless use. They can put up with trying to loosen a bolt longer than your arm can  |
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I use Makita lxt tools in the workshop, the 1/2" 450 gun will undo anything you aim it. Wheel bolts, crank pulleys, rusty subframes, all no problem. The 3/8" version will also undo wheel nuts, though is better suited to under bonnet work. The bonus with the lxt range is the battery's are interchangeable with the other tools, like my favorite battery grinder.
The 1/2" snap-on guns are very good, and also fairly compact if your trying to squeeze in somewhere.
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