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May 20, 2019 10:02:05 GMT
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I think your car fits in perfectly, stop over thinking it. Plenty of std cars there as well that quite frankly probably belonged in the Sainsbury's car park.
Yours is modified - ergo, it belongs.
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May 20, 2019 11:36:33 GMT
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What he said. Doesn’t matter that it’s not a jag irs, most young people couldn’t strafe an irs binnacle if they tried! It matters even less on a Scim because all you see when you jack the back up is the petrol tank. I might paint a diff casing and some Jag struts on that though. This is a fine idea, thus leaving you lots more spends for a red light.
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luckyseven
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This was the NAUGHTY CORNERluckyseven
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May 20, 2019 14:25:47 GMT
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Rake is the LAW. You can be the first Cal-Look Scimitar I like the whitewalls
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May 20, 2019 14:29:04 GMT
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Thank you Lucky Seven you are MY BEST FRIEND
I mean...not a 'friend', just... more like... I still hold you in the highest contempt, but you like my tyres, so that's good.
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May 20, 2019 15:18:49 GMT
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Saw this on another Retro Rides thread so thought i'd share it here;
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May 20, 2019 19:50:08 GMT
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Saw this on another Retro Rides thread so thought i'd share it here; That's a 6. Gentleman's luxobarge cruiser. Princess Anne genuinely DID have one of these. They're nice cars, but I've personally never liked the 6 as much as the 5. Purely personal tastes but they're very square in terms of the design language with lots of details, like the rear corner vent mouldings and the multi-layered bumpers, like Aztec terraces. I prefer the simplicity and curves of the smaller 5..
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luckyseven
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This was the NAUGHTY CORNERluckyseven
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May 20, 2019 20:08:06 GMT
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That's a 6. Gentleman's luxobarge cruiser. Princess Anne genuinely DID have one of these. They're nice cars, but I've personally never liked the 6 as much as the 5. Purely personal tastes but they're very square in terms of the design language with lots of details, like the rear corner vent mouldings and the multi-layered bumpers, like Aztec terraces. I prefer the simplicity and curves of the smaller 5.. Did you just make a sensible, reasoned post without resorting to caps lock and full of unequivocal facts and a rational well-phrased and disseminated argument? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL @quatermass!? We demand a return to inchoate randomness and insanity
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May 20, 2019 20:39:31 GMT
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Did you just make a sensible, reasoned post without resorting to caps lock and full of unequivocal facts and a rational well-phrased and disseminated argument? What? No, of course not. I'd never do that. You didn't pay attention. Read it again... That's a 6. Gentleman's luxobarge cruiser. Princess Anne genuinely DID have one of these. They're nice cars, but I've personally never liked the 6 as much as the 5. Purely personal tastes but they're very square in terms of the design language LIKE RUDDY PACKETS OF RICE KRISPY CAKE BARS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, with lots of details which were added by the then contested Prince EL Ahad Mahood of the Emirates as he studied general vehicle design at Lichfield Poly (I think it was Lichfield Poly although I'm not sure there actually IS a Lichfield Poly although if there isn't there really ought to be) (I think it was the contested Prince EL Ahad Mahood of the Emirates but I can't actually verify that as it's information I'm relaying on hearsay alone), like the rear corner vent mouldings WHICH ARE UTTERLY RIDICULOUS AND YOU"RE BANNED FOR EVEN LOOKING AT THEM and the multi-layered bumpers, like Aztec terraces... or maybe like an Albert Speer munitions factory, or something from Star Wars perhaps I don't know I just hate them so much they make me do awful things to woodland creatures. I prefer the simplicity and curves of the smaller 5 AND SO DO YOU YOU MALODOROUS CRETIN I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS NOW.
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May 20, 2019 20:50:29 GMT
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This is the SE6... This is the SE5... ^Bonus points for anyone who can name the cat with the gat
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Last Edit: May 21, 2019 7:37:50 GMT by Deleted
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May 20, 2019 21:07:02 GMT
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That's a 6. Gentleman's luxobarge cruiser. Princess Anne genuinely DID have one of these. You mentioned Princess Anne! You're banned! BANNED I tell you. And close the door on your way out...
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Nope. Much much cooler than Spock. Here's another picture ...
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reliantreviver
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Oh I dunno. Whoever he is he looks like a bit of an Animal.
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Current: Reliant "750" Super Robin, Scimitar SS1s - 2 x 1300, 1 x 1600, 1 x 1800ti. 76 years off the road between them! Also - Mitsubishi Galant Sport and Hyundai Coupe Gen3
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Oh I dunno. Whoever he is he looks like a bit of an Animal. I didn't mean to Burden you with a random quiz question. I used to hate that sort of thing, When I Was Young. *WE HAVE A WINNER* To bring it back to the subject matter, here's Eric Burden with some appropriate cars... More recently with his Ranchero... And his Ranchero has recently been for sale in the States... www.2040-cars.com/Ford/Ranchero/1958-ford-rachero-owned-by-eric-burdon-827306/
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May 21, 2019 14:50:20 GMT
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========= Low vs High ========= Interestingly one of the Modified Scim crowd has just posted up some shots of how he lowered his Scim by 2" using spacer plates and longer bolts on the bottom plate... I know there's some maths behind using a 1" base drop to achieve a 2" car drop but for the life of me my poor little brain simply cannot see how that is possibe. You drop the bottom an inch, the car drops an inch, surely. None of this is to say I'm going to try and lower my front because I do like it higher, but I could get some plates made up easy-peasy and have a look if I feel like it. I could whip 'em in an out daily to suit my ever-changing mind. Big arch gaps are still my favourite... (^yeah okay it hasn't got an engine but still) it'll come roaring back into fashion any day now. I'm certain it will. ====== Updating a few measurements because everything got lost in the nonsense of the naughty corner.... Spring seat to spring seat on a completely loose AVO unit: 11" ^ I know it looks over 11" in this picture but I only had two hands and couldn't hold the tape measure and also take the shot so SHUT IT YOU Measuring the gap between spring seats on my car as it sits in the road: 9 3/4" So my car is compressing the units by 1 1/4" currently Now to locate the spec for the springs currently fitted to them. ======= In the meantime though, some screen based window shopping @ Faulkner Springs fine fashions... ======= So, the thing is; if I fit 10 1/2" springs I'll need to turn the lower spring seat up half an inch minimum just to ensure full contact at maximum extension. What my tiny brain can't conceive is whether I gain anything at all by replacing my current 13" springs compressed to 9 3/4", with 10 1/2" springs which will have no preload (whatever that does) with the spring seat wound up to 10 1/2". So If I have to wind the spring seat up to say 10", am I actually going to achieve anything meaningful, or just have a very bouncy car with very little reduction in arch gap. Pretty sure somebody once told me that 1" of spring seat adjustment achieves 2" of difference, in which case the reverse would be true and 1" of upward adjustment would cancel out 2" of intended drop. I really don't grasp that at all though. I may have completely misunderstood the point being made at the time. But then again, if my car compressed 10 1/2" springs down to 9 1/2" that would be 1" of preload by virtue of the weight of the car, wouldn't it? wouldn't it? Hmmmmm. Dad? DAD? CAN YOU HELP ME WITH MY HOMEWORK? GRANGE HILL IS ON IN A MINUTE.
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reliantreviver
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May 21, 2019 16:42:29 GMT
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As a practical demonstration. Lay down on your back on one of your "honestly their Mrs QMs" yoga mats. Keeping them straight raise your legs up a bit. Then move them up or down an inch at the knee. You should have roughly twice the change in height at your feet. Ergo. Your shock absorbers don't mount directly to your wheel centres but half way (or whatever) along a lever between the wheel and the chassis.
Anyway. I actually showed up to talk supensiongs
What boingers do you now have front and rear?
I think the back needs upping for the rake you truly desire.
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Current: Reliant "750" Super Robin, Scimitar SS1s - 2 x 1300, 1 x 1600, 1 x 1800ti. 76 years off the road between them! Also - Mitsubishi Galant Sport and Hyundai Coupe Gen3
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May 21, 2019 16:50:13 GMT
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As a practical demonstration. Lay down on your back on one of your "honestly their Mrs QMs" yoga mats. Keeping them straight raise your legs up a bit. Then move them up or down an inch at the knee. You should have roughly twice the change in height at your feet. Ergo. Your shock absorbers don't mount directly to your wheel centres but half way (or whatever) along a lever between the wheel and the chassis. Ahhhhh, bingo. Where would we be without analogies? Thank you, it makes sense now Anyway. I actually showed up to talk supensiongs What boingers do you now have front and rear? I think the back needs upping for the rake you truly desire. I'm just trying to hunt down the spring rates for what finally got fitted. I can;t seem to find the specs in my very carefully organised info files. I have found reference to "13.7" long unsprung and rated at 250lbs" but I don't know if those were the first (red) springs I got from GW, or the second set of black ones I replaced them with. Anyway... I'm not really sure I want to do this at all, I'm just re-gathering now lost information, and chewing it all over.
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Darkspeed
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May 21, 2019 16:59:29 GMT
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It could if the 1" spacer is also combined with a lower mounting point for shock on that plate - some of the pictures of Scim suspension show quite a tall bracket for the shock off that bottom plate.
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May 21, 2019 17:01:39 GMT
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All seems fair enough. Springs should settle slightly yes, and whilst I don't know the bottom arm movement / lever ratio (wheel travel vs spring travel) I think an inch seems like quite a lot for it to settle initially! As has already been suggested, same rating, shorter length. That is what you need. 10.5" 250lbs is what I would suggest also. Have you considered how you will be safely compressing and removing / refitting the springs if sticking with 13.7"? Coilovers and conventional hook type compressors don't always mix so well... Aha.... Rev's earlier advice dug out of the archive. This is what I've just been looking at at Faulkners. If I do anything to lower the nose, it will be to fit these. Mind you, the big problem with SE5a Scimitars is not actually the large arch gap, its the stupid design of the wheel arch. If I was to grind the lip off and have round lipless arches moulded in their place, the car would look ruddy lovely sitting exactly where it sits right now... Arch is.... Arch SHOULD be.... With apologies for the appalling results when using Powerpoint as a substitute for Photoshop, and an old photograph where the tyres aren;t even on the ruddy rims. === Update Having done that quick photochop I've gotten myself so exciteable about it that I've already fired off an enquiry email to a local fibreglass/GRP moulding/repair specialist at Shoreham Port.
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