jonk
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Sept 12, 2016 21:19:19 GMT
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An mx5 is brilliant to attack a back road on. That is the main reason to get one. How much do you like driving?
I have one and will probably never sell it. Driving wise a sierra will be in its dust.
Bit I also have an estate, and the load capacity is possibly an equal satisfaction.
Sounds like you'll need to get both out of your system at some point!
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Sept 13, 2016 10:32:10 GMT
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They always have quite a bit of down to earth advice, do not ask for a fortune for parts with there being many helpful sources and suppliers out there, including Autolink, MX-5 Parts and even Skuzzle to name a few. Maybe I got hit with the RS Tax but in many ways the Ford scene has started becoming pricey, even compared to the Porsche world IMHO ; I never thought I would pay £100 for a parcel shelf or see people buying dashboards for Escorts for £500, or £100s for floor mats and original exhausts ; the stuff just is not available unlike the MX-5 ; thank God my dash had no cracks! off topic slightly this is what pees me off about the ford scene now, if i didnt have my cars already i don't know whether i'd bother buying them because of the rs tax
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Last Edit: Sept 13, 2016 10:34:38 GMT by fordperv
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ChasR
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MK1 MX5 or Sierra EstateChasR
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Sept 13, 2016 13:32:04 GMT
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Definitely. After owning Fords for ages and having access to a myriad of cheap parts over the years I certainly was taken back when I bought my RST. I guess it is what happens when there is a strong demand for things and not much supply, especially when so many Fords have been modified over the years.
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njw
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Sept 13, 2016 19:01:24 GMT
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Sierra gets my vote, not that I'm biased much having owned four, my last one had a tuned Cologne v6, Mondeo brakes, Spax adjustable suspension and polybushes and would have kept up with an mx5 easily on a twisty road and then overtaken it on a straight. With four people in it!
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ChasR
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MK1 MX5 or Sierra EstateChasR
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Sept 14, 2016 7:50:07 GMT
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Sierra gets my vote, not that I'm biased much having owned four, my last one had a tuned Cologne v6, Mondeo brakes, Spax adjustable suspension and polybushes and would have kept up with an mx5 easily on a twisty road and then overtaken it on a straight. With four people in it! And that sounds insurable for a new driver as well .
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njw
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Sept 14, 2016 11:52:11 GMT
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A very good point, good sir!
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JoshO
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Sept 14, 2016 12:24:18 GMT
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OP is it two specific vehicles you are being offered?? If so photos of the two
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Sept 14, 2016 12:34:41 GMT
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Sierra gets my vote, not that I'm biased much having owned four, my last one had a tuned Cologne v6, Mondeo brakes, Spax adjustable suspension and polybushes and would have kept up with an mx5 easily on a twisty road and then overtaken it on a straight. With four people in it! And that sounds insurable for a new driver as well . thats why i intentionally stayed away from modifications
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Mark
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Sept 14, 2016 22:27:44 GMT
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Sierra gets my vote, not that I'm biased much having owned four, my last one had a tuned Cologne v6, Mondeo brakes, Spax adjustable suspension and polybushes and would have kept up with an mx5 easily on a twisty road and then overtaken it on a straight. With four people in it! Then had Cornflakes or Porridge?
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BMW 320d (fridge on wheels)
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Sept 15, 2016 8:40:09 GMT
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theres only one way to settle this
fffiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhttttttt
i do notice njw only said sierra he didnt specify whether his was a hatch, saph or estate, sierra's do respond well to suspension modifications and will be a laugh on the twisties, i am much faster on the lanes i use than most of the things i come up against because of the suspension modifications and decent tyres, i havnt come up against an mx5 on the lanes yet, i will say i was dissapointed with the last mx5 i drove, it was a standard mk2 1.8 rs import it had bilsteins on and it was wallowy and boatish, comparing that to an mx5 i drove with decent coilovers the difference was night and day
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ChasR
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MK1 MX5 or Sierra EstateChasR
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Sept 15, 2016 9:47:05 GMT
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theres only one way to settle this fffiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhttttttt i do notice njw only said sierra he didnt specify whether his was a hatch, saph or estate, sierra's do respond well to suspension modifications and will be a laugh on the twisties, i am much faster on the lanes i use than most of the things i come up against because of the suspension modifications and decent tyres, i havnt come up against an mx5 on the lanes yet, i will say i was dissapointed with the last mx5 i drove, it was a standard mk2 1.8 rs import it had bilsteins on and it was wallowy and boatish, comparing that to an mx5 i drove with decent coilovers the difference was night and day If it was on the factory Bisteins that had never been changed then yes it would be on the wallowy side. Some people scoffed at mine being on Gaz coilovers, but it really did grip and grip, and very playful on the limit. I suspect the latter was down to the suspension being setup right ; the camber/toe etc. is surprisingly adjustable out of the factory, but many are do not done like this due to the bolts seizing up over time, leading to interesting characteristics. The Mk2s were said to be so so with the later cars tending to be better bar the chassis rail rot issues of the Mk2.5s. That and if I am honest I was never keen with the looks of the Mk2 onwards until the Mk4 came about.
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Sept 15, 2016 10:54:57 GMT
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yeah it was the factory bilsteins, i once welded some mk2 front chassis rails for a bottle of JD it was a mate of mines
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Sept 15, 2016 16:36:25 GMT
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^^ this exactly Good MX5 NA's are now hard to find and thin on the ground,i spent three months finding a good one.There are a lot that look ok on photos but are absolute dogs when you get up close and personal and won't be long for the road. Agree with this, just in the process of getting my 97 MK1 Eunos 1.8 B2 Limited on the road after a year of it being off the road. It needed sills doing and some minor bits, and the classic bodyshop that did it said it was by far the most solid one he'd seen in a long time! That should give an idea how many are rustbuckets. MX5s are going to go very rapidly from "common as muck" to where did they all go, and don't think you can just move up the years to a MK2 either, they're worse due to the double skinned chassis rails rotting from the inside out. Get a solid one though and they're just pure joy. Not just in terms of being fun to drive, but how easy they are to own in terms of getting parts or tapping into other peoples knowledge. There's no wrong answer to the original question, both the MX5 and Sierra are cool in their own way, but I think the MX5 is a car we just take for granted. It's only when you spend a lot of time around them, picking up on the little details of them you realize how much thought went into them, I mean they didn't need to give such a cheap sports car an aluminium bonnet, but they did.
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Sept 15, 2016 17:18:26 GMT
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Mx-5, of course. It brings all the joy you get from driving your mini and you can put the top down. Just as your mini is practically a two seater, and it's got a small boot. And that's something you're already accustomed to. (said the guy with a mini and an mx-5. I'm not biased, haha )
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Sept 15, 2016 21:34:35 GMT
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^^ this exactly Good MX5 NA's are now hard to find and thin on the ground,i spent three months finding a good one.There are a lot that look ok on photos but are absolute dogs when you get up close and personal and won't be long for the road. Agree with this, just in the process of getting my 97 MK1 Eunos 1.8 B2 Limited on the road after a year of it being off the road. It needed sills doing and some minor bits, and the classic bodyshop that did it said it was by far the most solid one he'd seen in a long time! That should give an idea how many are rustbuckets. MX5s are going to go very rapidly from "common as muck" to where did they all go, and don't think you can just move up the years to a MK2 either, they're worse due to the double skinned chassis rails rotting from the inside out. Get a solid one though and they're just pure joy. Not just in terms of being fun to drive, but how easy they are to own in terms of getting parts or tapping into other peoples knowledge. There's no wrong answer to the original question, both the MX5 and Sierra are cool in their own way, but I think the MX5 is a car we just take for granted. It's only when you spend a lot of time around them, picking up on the little details of them you realize how much thought went into them, I mean they didn't need to give such a cheap sports car an aluminium bonnet, but they did. Yeah,the attention to detail and thought shown in the Mk1 design is very interesting.One of the design briefs was the car had to be low enough for an average driver to stub his ciggie out on the road while sat in the car! Even the engine was designed so the cam covers were aesthetically pleasing in a traditional sports car sense and could be polished up by keen owners.They really did think of everything,no doubt helped by having an Elan,Spitfire and MGB in the design area while they worked. Absolutely right about MK2's,much worse for rot than Mk1's.I imagine that the MK2 will actually end up a rarer car than the early one.
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Oct 14, 2016 20:28:44 GMT
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Well, have you decided yet?
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