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...over the age-old 'decent car' saga lol.
thought you might like to know, so it went like this, pretty much... she called round to see my mum who was away at her MOT... 'do you need so many cars?' 'yes.' 'you know you could sell all these for scrap and buy a decent car!' 'i have a decent car. you know most of these are MOT'd?' 'i mean a decent, new car' 'why?' 'you had a new car didn't you? a we red one out of [dealer]' 'yeah' 'what was wrong with that?' 'it was sh1te. it kept breaking down. new cars are sh1te. i worked at [dealer] and drove a lot of cars, and the ONLY one that was any good was a fiesta diesel!' 'oh. well, to me a decent car means something new, not looking like scrap' 'ok.' 'ah well, each to their own eh?' 'aye, whatever' 'well, i wouldn't be seen in a car like that!' 'right' 'its a skoda like' *gets the most awkward silence treatment known to mankind* 'well, tell your mum i was round, ok?' *black-hole-depth-defying silence* 'bye'
and proceeeded to drive off in her new fiesta diesel i didn't know she had. oh, the irony.
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I hate it when people say stuff like that. Just because a car is newer does'nt neccesarily mean it's better. My Mum thinks in the same way. My Step-dad is'nt allowed to get a Nissan bluebird as it's too old, but we'll see about that one
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It baffles me as to people get so wound up by me having old/multiple cars, but it pushes me to defy them more.
Is it just some sort of way they can justify themselves paying £X a month and not feel daft for doing so?
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I get that treatment from my wife, let alone relatives.
Then she drove the Saab. Which has full leather, climate control, all 4 electric windows, heated seats (burnt her bum!), parking sensors and is much better than her Zafira. Which isn't a bad car. OK, so the Saab's not quite retro (yet) but it's better than a lot of tat I could buy.
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Current vehicle collection: 2006 Saab 9-3 Aero convertible - in mid-life crisis yellow No new retro as yet ... all attempts to sneak one onto the drive have failed.
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i had 'some' relative ask what 'old banger' i was driving now, who then proceeded in telling me the best cars he ever owned was an hb viva, a victor and a carlton estate !!!
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had a go at my auntie...BenzBoy
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Symptom of modern consumer culture, I'm afraid. To most people, old=curse word, new=better. People don't fix stuff anymore, they buy new ones. I tend to ignore people when they have a go about the cars I drive. It doesn't bother me any more
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I take pride in the fact that my car is always the oldest in the car park at work Imagine how many old motors you could buy for the price of a new small car, £10K or so
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I just rest safe in the knowledge that no one will ever go up to these people and say "ooh a [micra/clio/rover/other modern junk*], I had one of those once, best car I ever drove" whereas I've had it said to me a few times
Its funny how with houses, finally paying off the mortgage and owning the house is what everyone aims for. With cars it seems the other way around. If you own an old car your seen as a chump whereas if your still paying off finance on a new car, your cool. WTF?
*examples of nay sayers cars that I know
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Last Edit: Aug 4, 2007 23:44:59 GMT by goaferboy
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I have those convos in my head sometimes, well kinda! ;D only today I was pondering when i'll buy a modern, ya know like a M reg Xantia! Wear your retro with pride.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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I take pride in the fact that my car is always the oldest in the car park at work Imagine how many old motors you could buy for the price of a new small car, £10K or so Or just think of what single old car you could get for £10K, true luxury stuff that cost tens of thousands when new, probably in immaculate condition. Or proper supercars capable of beating any modern one. Alternatively, a sodding Micra! To be honest if I ever had a budget over £2000 I'd probably end up buying a Maserati or something daft, so it's probably for the best I don't.
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My ma starts on me about the cars from time to time - I explained to her the sum total of them and the fact that I own four cars outright and I owe nobody for them - seemed to make sense that way. Most of my mates love my cars and only ever hassle me for a lift in one (never TO anywhere, just want to be driven around). The person who gives me the most grief is my brother - I got that same "why don't you scrap them and buy a decent car instead of pricking around with that sh17e?" question and the only way I could get through to him was by explaining it in his terms.......he's a fine carpenter and I said "why would I bother buying one of ur refurbished/immaculate *piece of furniture* when I can just go into MFI and pick up a curse word chipboard/mdf cupboard brand new.................................................he walked away nodding then
I find its always great to point out the cost and ease of fixing any of my retros in comparison with the effort/cost/robbery of, for example, getting an oil change on naysayers new car.
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Last Edit: Aug 5, 2007 1:20:34 GMT by leigh
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hehe yeah, friends do love to ride in mine, although after doing a 1am run where i couldnt see out of 1/2 the windscreen for fog and nearly hit a speedhump at 60kph one of the less understanding ones did ask 'is this car fragile?' lol
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I take pride in the fact that my car is always the oldest in the car park at work Imagine how many old motors you could buy for the price of a new small car, £10K or so Or just think of what single old car you could get for £10K, true luxury stuff that cost tens of thousands when new, probably in immaculate condition. Or proper supercars capable of beating any modern one. Alternatively, a sodding Micra! Heh, thats exactly what we did. My girlfriend was looking for a new car, so we did the whole dealership thing, test driving etc and everything was so boring. 18k for an Avensis? Err, no thanks! So instead we scanned the classifieds and ended up with a Lexus LS430 for a fraction under 10k. Climate control, sat nav, leather, power everything even a damn fridge. Price new in 2002? £64k!!! Thats some depreciation, but good for us! She gets some looks though, being a 25 year old female driving an old man executive barge, but thats their problem. I love my old tackle though and people are generally quite positive towards my old cars, the girls at work love the old BMW's! Theres always someone who has a pop though, usually someone who knows NOTHING about cars, who does the whole finance on a new Fiesta thing (which costs more than our Lexus). I don't know. I think its either you get it or you don't. I'm not against people buying new cars, but you do get the impression that some do it just because they think they should. Can anyone honestly tell me that all these car warehouses offering 29.9% APR are a good thing?
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had a go at my auntie...stealthstylz
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My mums slowly falling into the trap of just buying new cars because its "easier". I keep explaining that even though theres £16k coming out of her pocket for the car, the actual car is now worth about £12k as its a year old. A lot of my school mates bought new cars on stupid finance agreements. At least 5 of them are still paying for cars that they havent got any more, and they took the curse word out of my £1400 clio which looked better, drove better, went quicker and girls loved it lol
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Going back to an earlier point, what is it with the price of servicing on new cars? I had a lady at work saying about the service was due on her fairly new 206 Convertible thing and it was going to cost her something like £250, so I asked her what for, judging that it only had something like 15K on it. Apparently just changing the oil, air filters, pollen filters and some other minor things. How on earth do they justify that? I got all fluids changed including gearbox and diff, new fuel filter and the cambelt changing on my Mira for something like £150! And I even used the official parts and had it done by the proper dealer.
Parts prices for new cars are ridiculous too, my dad damaged the outer shell of a door mirror on his 407 and the replacement item was £200 odd. I'd have just got another car for that.
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Going back to an earlier point, what is it with the price of servicing on new cars? I had a lady at work saying about the service was due on her fairly new 206 Convertible thing and it was going to cost her something like £250, so I asked her what for, judging that it only had something like 15K on it. Apparently just changing the oil, air filters, pollen filters and some other minor things. How on earth do they justify that? I got all fluids changed including gearbox and diff, new fuel filter and the cambelt changing on my Mira for something like £150! And I even used the official parts and had it done by the proper dealer. Parts prices for new cars are ridiculous too, my dad damaged the outer shell of a door mirror on his 407 and the replacement item was £200 odd. I'd have just got another car for that. You think that's bad? Last year our local Ford main dealer tried to charge SWMBO £48 to change a number-plate light! I've boght useable cars for less!!
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That's just a joke! Can anyone beat that?!
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Thats pretty staggering really. I've only ever used a main dealer once and that was enough.
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What happened was... SWMBO called me at work to say that she'd had them on the phone telling her that, and I quote, 'the rear lights have failed'. I thought it was pretty odd given that we work a junction apart on the motorway, and as is pretty common we'd trundled down the M5 in convoy the morning before...and her lights were all working fine.
So I got the job number off her, and called them myself.
"Can you tell me which rear lights have failed, as they were working fine yesterday" "Hang on....yeah, one of the rear number-plate lights was out" "Number plate light? So why did you put the fear of God into her by telling her that the rear lights have failed, when in fact it was a poxy 5 watt bulb??" "Ummm...erm......" "And while we're at it, how come you want to charge her £48 for what must be at least two minute's work??" "Blah blah standard labour charge blah blah bellyache" "Well take the new bulb out, put the knackered one back, and I'll change it when I get home" "Sorry Sir, we can't do that" "Cnut"
I just hung up, and called SWMBO back....she went absolutely ballistic when she picked the car up and told the Service Manager that it was the fifth new Ford she'd bought in a row off them, but would definitely be the last....at which point they magically changed their tune and charged her 50p for the bulb.
Complete and utter w*nkers.
Despite all that SWMBO still views my obsession with old cars with a mix of bemusement and resignation. That said she actually quite likes the Oxford, although she hated the Range-Rover.
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Dealers are a mixed bag, they are not all bad, I recently had a Saab 9-3 with an engine management light that would not f*ck off, I told the customer to take it Saab and get the bill sent to me. I took my trousers down and bent over the nearest bonnet in readiness, and they phoned me and it was indeed bad news, sounded like a new throttle body (£500) plus time on the diagnostics machine etc. I was just taking the top off a jar of vaseline when the customer phoned me to tell me that since the phone call they "just tried" a little software download which had instantly cured the problem and resulted in no charges, just the £75 I`d already paid for the hour`s labour. Now they didn`t have to do that, I`d have had absolutely no idea that would have cured the problem and I would still be walking funny now was it not for that bizzare selfless display.
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