Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Tubes In Tubeless TyresDez
@dez
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Feb 25, 2016 21:06:34 GMT
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Oh and they look suspiciously like lada wheels to me, making them 4x98 not 4x100. Are they 13s, originally 5" wide I think?
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Feb 25, 2016 21:09:58 GMT
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The inside pic it looks like the repair is bang up against the band weld. The outside pic it looks like the repair is at the top of the well. Either way, the fact its done it twice rings major alarm bells. I cant believe its even in question. I'm amazed there are people on here who apparantly either don't have a problem with this or fail to see the significance of whats happening.  |
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Feb 25, 2016 21:11:27 GMT
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Oh and they look suspiciously like lada wheels to me, making them 4x98 not 4x100. Are they 13s, originally 5" wide I think? Just looked at centers, ovaled bolt holes? |
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Feb 25, 2016 21:12:58 GMT
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If its cracked once , due to rubbish welding , heat stresses , contracting and expanding , and then welding again it needs binning on a item like that . If the material is that goosed that its cracking it needs the whole cracked area ground out welded- something thats not practical or very safe to do . Its effectivly a large area of different material with a weak edge attaching it to the rest of the wheel .
Its really really not worth a potential accident , they do not look they have been done by someone who knows what they are doing .
Please please get some others .
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,712
Club RR Member Number: 34
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Tubes In Tubeless TyresDez
@dez
Club Retro Rides Member 34
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Feb 25, 2016 21:17:09 GMT
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Oh and they look suspiciously like lada wheels to me, making them 4x98 not 4x100. Are they 13s, originally 5" wide I think? Just looked at centers, ovaled bolt holes? They do look a bit chewed, but it's those extra two little holes for the allignment pins that are what are making me think they are. |
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willg
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Feb 25, 2016 22:24:20 GMT
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Wow! Thanks for the responses.
The repair has been done right on/next to the band weld.
I would quite happily get another wheel made up in a heartbeat, but I cannot find what it originated off. They are: 14" x 5J and ET35 (stamped). I've googled the serial number with no avail. No idea if they are 4x100 or 4x98, can't really measure them, but they fit on fine.
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Retro is best!
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Feb 25, 2016 23:49:24 GMT
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I'll probably get flamed for this, but I had a set of tyres on wheels kicking about in my garage, one day I wanted to move them from one side of the garage to the other, I took the first tyre from the stack, wheeled it across the floor and set it down, unfortunately for me there was a nail in a piece of wood on the floor, it went straight through my new unused tyres sidewall and punctured it. This should have been a replace tyre situation, but I spoke to a garage and they suggested that a inner tube could be used, they got me an inner tube and fitted it for me. The tyre and inner tube were fine and held air with no problems until I got rid. I was happy to use an inner tube and I would do so again if required. As for the rim, I'm no expert but I'd probably try and get it welded up again and use it (or if I had a set of 5 keep it for the spare)
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Last Edit: Feb 25, 2016 23:49:48 GMT by fuldatramp
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I ran tubes on the GT when I had it as one alloy continuously leaked. Even did track days with them; when I took the old tyres off they were as good as new. Sadly the old boy who did the job originally had retired and the new bloke got jittery about tubing tubeless. So now I have a slow puncture....
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Rover Metro - The TARDIS - brake problems.....Stored
Rover 75 - Barge
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Can you see the theme?
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Feb 26, 2016 18:35:26 GMT
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Not getting involved in the welding bit but I would have no issues with running tubes if you can get the correct size, you could rub the rough parts off the inside of the tyre with sandpaper if you are concerned
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I've never had a tube get fretted by tubeless tyres, and I've run plenty of them.
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You've been lucky then. Having said that a tip is to have a slightly bigger tube so that it's not stretched so thin.
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Feb 29, 2016 10:30:50 GMT
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I'd use Carroll Smith's method of checking whether this wheel is safe to use. Throw it into the nearest stretch of deep water. If it floats retrieve it.
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Feb 29, 2016 14:30:53 GMT
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I used to run the odd tube in an old saab with rusty steels, never had a problem. Though if you do get a puncture it will go flat instantly....
But that's not the issue, I just wouldn't trust wheels like that...
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'98 e36 316i lux
'97 mx5 harvard
'87 Saab 900 T16s
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You've been lucky then. Having said that a tip is to have a slightly bigger tube so that it's not stretched so thin. Might also be to do with older tubes being better made than some of the rubbish that's coming out of parts East, masquerading as tubes. |
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