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Sept 30, 2015 21:17:53 GMT
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Has anyone successfully used a corsa D column for a power steering conversion?
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Dez
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Sept 30, 2015 21:29:18 GMT
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not sure why youd want to when the corsa C stuff is so well catered for and cheap?
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Sept 30, 2015 21:30:56 GMT
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It's more compact, and by the looks of it should be easier for a conversion I'm doing space wise
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As above, I don't know why you'd want to reinvent the wheel and use the later type.
Even if you had a later type sitting that was free, sell it and use the better supported one.
Just 'cause I'm a nosey b'stard: What are you going to use it in?
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If you cant get a ebay type control box to work, I don't know if one is available for the d yet, you may be able to wire it up like it was originally wired by using the abs ring and sensor/ this is what I hope to with my corsa c eps unit. The ring will actually fit on or over my front hub and it only requires the hub wheel sensor and the special opel relay. This is what i mean, read this below, but you would need to get the relative wiring diagram from the D www.super7thheaven.co.uk/blog/corsa-c-electric-power-steering-epas/I have actually put my eps in the engine bay and used steering rack bellows to waterproof it. I also live where it is bone dry for 7 months of the year and that helps I had to move the alternator out of the way though   |
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As above, I don't know why you'd want to reinvent the wheel and use the later type. Even if you had a later type sitting that was free, sell it and use the better supported one. Just 'cause I'm a nosey b'stard: What are you going to use it in? Hardly reinventing the wheel lol. Its for my manta build Just Posing a question, i know the corsa b and c is tried and tested. Have put them in other vehicles, Just in my application I'm tight for space. I have the c type one in place . I have a couple of pulse signal adjusters for using any form of gearbox/abs ring signal to either ramp up or decrease. I don't want a dash adjuster like a lot of ebaysellers are advertising, |
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The Corsa B column is the easiest to fit to a manta as the upper spline and lower DD link are are match for the original manta column. I realize with your build a bit of fabrication is not an issue to fit another column (its a drop in the ocean compared to the rest you have done) This is a B column for the manta with the motor rotated to tuck behind the dash in a standard car. The lower output from the column is 3/4 DD same as the lower shaft on a manta so you can either use the standard corsa U/J or even upgrade to an aftermarket much smaller diameter one.  This is a trimmed down C column (for a T25 in this pic) as you can see not that much larger around the gearbox/motor but longer than the B with the rear extension housing. The lower output is a spline and upper is Corsa C, but the upper can be easily chopped around and combined with the original upper from the car to retain the standard steering wheel  The corsa D column has a much shorter motor and no real extension at the rear but does look to have a large flat bracket as part of it that the ecu sits on (haven't played with one myself yet) not sure what the upper/lower splines are I stick to the older B and C ones as the speed controllers i use are readily available. I do want to have a look at the Clio motors as they are much smaller all round and could be good for some applications (with the controllers also available off the shelf) but it depends what the outputs are like for ease of adapting to each vehicle. |
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Cheers mate, that stripped down c looks more like it, as you can see from my build space is a premium with the god damn v8
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froggy
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Agila/ wagon r is really compact too and clutched so no drag when you don't need assistance
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Cheers froggy, agile looks to be more promising!
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Cheers mate, that stripped down c looks more like it, as you can see from my build space is a premium with the god damn v8 Yeah i had a look at the space around your column, the Corsa B wouldn't get as close to the framework like your current C column bottom end does. Agila/ wagon r is really compact too and clutched so no drag when you don't need assistance Haven't seen a speed controller for the Agila column yet though so you'd need to make your own. |
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froggy
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I have the b system on my kitten and use a signal from my speedo which makes it work properly . Agila /wagon use the same Mitsubishi system so I'm doing the same thing on my hotrod feeding the vr type gearbox sensor into an old Saab speedo head then sending the signal to the epas , I tried using a signal generator on my car but the steering feels odd having assistance all the time and works a lot better with proper speed sensitivity
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B columns seem to command a lot of monies these days. How times change.
I've got an agile on its way. It will need shortening but the end part will ideal for the manta with the UJ being close to the Motor
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froggy
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If you have a vr sensor on your gearbox you can feed it direct to the ecu from what I've been reading plus an rpm signal should do the job
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Cheers froggy,
The agila column that has arrived looks like it'll be just the job!
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froggy
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Oct 12, 2015 20:39:22 GMT
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Now my rod is running il try feeding the tach out from the megasquirt and pulse from the box to see what happens
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froggy
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Oct 15, 2015 14:04:24 GMT
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Rally wiz.com do controllers for pre and post 2000 agila / wagon r columns 45€
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froggy
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Oct 18, 2015 21:02:02 GMT
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Rigged the epas up and once I had the correct output from the tach driver on the megasquirt it worked fine so with the negative from the gearbox vr it will be speed sensitive
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Oct 18, 2015 21:34:40 GMT
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Cheers froggy, really appreciate you sharing the info.
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froggy
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Oct 19, 2015 19:47:55 GMT
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a mate fitted the agila column to his kit car with a Peugeot v6 and got it working properly so I figured it would work with the m/s .
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