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Feb 26, 2015 12:14:10 GMT
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cable ties not ideal, and mot discretion could claim they arent durable enough to suffice. so i would say jubilee clips. mine have been ok for 2 mots in a row.
and ive spoken to 86corolla about this today and this garage is just being stubborn and thick. unwilling to even listen to him and cant admit hes wrong.
do not use autoserve in WSM they clearly arent familiar with actual mot proceedure. just lightly trained monkeys wield spanners instead of bananas.
they claim it fails on spring doesnt stay seated when jacked up.. wtf. so long as it reseats its a pass. says clearly in section2.4. they failed him on a loose horn wire and a loose sub wire too.. petty much.?
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84 mazda 323 gt (twr) b6t engine
85 mazda rx7 s3 12a
90 mazda 323 estate
90 mazda 323 estate (for the mrs ;-) )
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Feb 26, 2015 12:37:01 GMT
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The springs fall out? So I'm guessing he just meant the rear springs? In which case it wouldn't take long just to put the standard springs on for the test...
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Feb 26, 2015 12:48:38 GMT
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they are cut originals. they are only loose when jacked up, so no garauntee they will reseat correctly. with a jubilee clip in there they will.
his mot tester is saying even with clip inplace he will fail it. :/ BS
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84 mazda 323 gt (twr) b6t engine
85 mazda rx7 s3 12a
90 mazda 323 estate
90 mazda 323 estate (for the mrs ;-) )
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Feb 26, 2015 12:55:09 GMT
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Mot tester stated the spring has to be seated top and bottom when shock is fully extended
iv since spoken to 3 separate mot stations and said aslong as they seat properly then it's fine
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Feb 26, 2015 12:59:18 GMT
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The springs fall out? So I'm guessing he just meant the rear springs? In which case it wouldn't take long just to put the standard springs on for the test... They don't fall out unless u pull them out iv had my car up on a mates ramp many times never have then fallen out |
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Curtis
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Feb 26, 2015 13:10:15 GMT
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I'd just take it to a different tester and report this guy for not doing his job properly
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Feb 26, 2015 13:12:27 GMT
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What about some check straps as used on rear of Land Rover ? Simply attach to body and axle so limits movement to that of the spring, rather than shock, length. On Land Rovers they loop under axle but no reason why they can't be attached to shock mounts so one strap would do both sides. That way it will never be enough for spring to be loose. Cheaper alternative to shorter shocks ?  |
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VIP
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Feb 26, 2015 13:36:18 GMT
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It's rather ambiguous. What did the tester actually explain to you regarding reason for failure? Spoke to him this morning he said when jacked up the springs fall out they don't but ok said if I secure them in place would that be ok he said no gotta be lowered shocks or factory springs Ask him to show you in the Testers manual it says cut springs aren't allowed. He doesn't understand his own job. |
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Feb 26, 2015 13:37:38 GMT
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Spoke to him this morning he said when jacked up the springs fall out they don't but ok said if I secure them in place would that be ok he said no gotta be lowered shocks or factory springs Ask him to show you in the Testers manual it says cut springs aren't allowed. He doesn't understand his own job. I know vip the guy is a total tool |
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Feb 26, 2015 13:38:14 GMT
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I'd just take it to a different tester and report this guy for not doing his job properly Got it booked in somewhere else tommoz |
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slater
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cut spring fasteningslater
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Feb 26, 2015 14:48:36 GMT
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First thing you need to do is find a decent MOT man. Hasn't even used the correct failure there.
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cut spring fasteningfr€$h&m1nt¥
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Feb 26, 2015 15:00:19 GMT
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Many people drill a small hole in the cup to put a cable tie through and keep them located. How loose are they when the car is in the air? Worst method is probably trying to stick them in with half-sucked Werther's Originals. Phew, glad I used leftover Wrigley's Juicy Fruit  |
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Feb 26, 2015 19:35:39 GMT
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First thing you need to do is find a decent MOT man. Hasn't even used the correct failure there. I know the guy's a tool |
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markbognor
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cut spring fasteningmarkbognor
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Feb 26, 2015 21:56:20 GMT
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I've used the droop strap idea before, but also modified a pair of oem shocks to have less travel, by dropping the mounting seat down the shock shaft and sleeving the extra shaft inside the car up to the mounting thread. At the front I've used mig wire to wrap round through a small hole in the cup, but this rusts through between mots so now use stainless garden wire, which lasts much longer.
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Feb 27, 2015 22:21:51 GMT
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If a spring is loose, a spring is loose, no point flaming the tester because you cut your springs. www.motuk.co.uk/manual_240.htmIf you look at c coil springs These criteria should also be applied to springs that have been deliberately shortened or modified in order to lower the suspension If I was him for cut springs I would fail you on 1a for the fact that your springs are incomplete as well as 3a that he has failed it on as your top spring cup and spring will be moving around when the car is jacked up because your spring is now shorter Lucky I'm not a tester because i would be fighting to protect the nuns and kittens |
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Last Edit: Feb 27, 2015 22:50:40 GMT by fordperv
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Feb 28, 2015 11:37:00 GMT
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I'm not arguing with the fail on the springs.
but sub wiring coming from the back seat going to the parcel shelf wich can move a few mill at best is not a fail..
nor is 1 wire off air horns.the are by the headlight with a 30 cm gap all the way round it is not a fail..
And to add hitting the floor pan so it dents new metal with a hammer is not on !!
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Feb 28, 2015 14:12:56 GMT
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I'm not arguing with the fail on the springs And to add hitting the floor pan so it dents new metal with a hammer is not on !! Complain to VOSA the tester is only allowed to use the toffee hammer type special approved tool |
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Feb 28, 2015 14:55:50 GMT
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Areas should be assessed by touch and the official corrosion inspection tool hitting it with a hammer isn't on at all
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Feb 28, 2015 16:04:31 GMT
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Areas should be assessed by touch and the official corrosion inspection tool hitting it with a hammer isn't on at all I know iv now got bare metal hammer marks |
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