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Jan 19, 2015 21:32:00 GMT
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It's worth whatever it's worth to you I guess, I wouldn't pay more for it. Check the floors and inner sills, trunk floor, these do rust. Bel Air is a mid range model, Biscayne being the base and Impala being the top. 63's are worth more than 64's but 4 door sedans/posts are the least desirable body style in any American car not just this one. All I'm saying is if you pile thousands and thousands into to it , paint, interior, mechanical, it'll never be worth what it owes, that matters to some people , doesn't matter to others.
Is it registered or still on USA plates?
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Fake patina sucks!
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Jan 19, 2015 21:36:33 GMT
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Its not registered in the UK yet. Is there a cost to that?
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Jan 19, 2015 21:49:40 GMT
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Didn't realise the car was over £3000, I was thinking £1000-£1500. Seems a lot for a rusty 4dr sedan that isn't even registered in the UK.
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Jan 19, 2015 21:51:54 GMT
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If he's got the title and customs paperwork there isn't a great deal of cost involved after its MOT'd. You need to be sure it has proof of duties paid, if it's been here a while it'll be a document called a CE386, you can get round no title but you can't get get round the duties as easily. If there's no proof of duties paid you'll have to pay some duty based on its value.
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Fake patina sucks!
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joe90
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Jan 19, 2015 21:55:12 GMT
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Try pilkington's for the glass, as long as they have a form they can make the glass, if your worried about no shift identification you could always fit a floor shifter such as a Hurst, B@M ect.
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Jan 19, 2015 22:05:41 GMT
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Large money, but rolling that to work each day, and seeing it on my drive once the hard works been done, and it is gleaming, and rocking some insane engine ( hey why not really break the norm and throw a J engine in it? ).... why not?
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Check out Restodan getting a 63 2 door going after 30 years sitting up.
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Jan 20, 2015 10:23:27 GMT
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I'll check out there websites & go to Whsmith for some mags.[/quote] Go online to american auto mags for magazines
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Dez
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Jan 20, 2015 10:41:22 GMT
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the yank market is not what it once was in this country, for obvious reasons.
long and short of it the logistics of owning such a large car is a ballache for most people, itll be about 17ft long and too wide for a standard car parking space, and do high teens/low twenties mpg. for example if i owned a fullsize, i couldnt keep it at my house without parking it in the road(which i wouldnt do) as my drive is only 16 foot long.
desirable models are still worth money, either as status symbols or investments, plus as its kinda assumed someone who can afford to splurge £10k-plus on a toy can manage to pay for fuel and storage if needed, if they don't have a house/land big enough to start with.
but the other end, the sub £3k 'container fillers' from years by, fairly cheap, undesirable more doors, 6cyls and late models, have really taken a dive, to the point where they're worth more as breakers and banger racers. this very much falls into that category.
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ToolsnTrack
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Jan 20, 2015 10:59:26 GMT
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Jan 20, 2015 11:32:43 GMT
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this is proving a large pot of opinions here. OK time to add my few pennies worth. Fuel costs:- depends on your outgoings and how heavy your right foot is, i get on average 18-20mpg from my 5L Caddy hearse, i can stretch that to 25mpg with very careful throttle application. Compare this to the 18mpg at best i was getting with my 2.1/4 petrol landrover.... that was with freewheeling hubs and an overdrive as well. Size :- sure they look big, however, my hearse is the same size in length as a LWB Transit, it is however 6" narrower than the same size Transit. How do i know this, well my hearse fits on my big trailer, a transit doesnt as its too wide when we tried to put one on to go to the scrappy recently. Gear lever :- After market floor mounted ones are very common and can be found relatively easily from the states. Money :- Well this is a big matter for debate. Its worth what you feel is reasonable. I paid £3K for the hearse and £1K for the limo. The limo was going to be a donor at the worst as it is the same base vehicle as the hearse. The hearse was a cali car that lived on the edge of a desert, rust free and not messed with, the limo however,messed with (badly) and rusty as it was from NY city. Both were already registered over here ,had current MOT and tax on them. Parts :- Parts for whatever model are available from the states, it may take some searching, but they are there. Forums and motor factors online searching (using an IP blocker and an Ad blocker on your browser sometimes) will find you soo much stuff. For example, i needed front pads for the hearse, found, ordered and delivered in 3 days for change from £30, most of that was postage. I hope some of that helps, but defo joining Rods and Sods for advise and research over here on yank stuff. Personally, if i had the money, time and some enthusiasm. I would be there with my trailer and a wad of cash
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'88 Cadillac Brougham hearse (white) '91 Carlton GSi 24v '72 Dodge dual cab pick up '99 Mercedes S55 AMG
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Jan 20, 2015 14:21:36 GMT
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thanks again guys.When I meet him I'll ask about paperwork etc. I'm really in 2 minds,like stated above it's the issue of head & heart. The money to buy it or run it isn't an issue it's the original outlay & basic project costs but cruising in it like it is with half moon hubcaps,mexican blanket seat covers & a fat V8 is very appealing.
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2015 14:23:13 GMT by ianlea73
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Jan 20, 2015 14:49:56 GMT
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I'm sorry, if you have to ask, I think you already know the answer.
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Jan 20, 2015 16:58:51 GMT
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Early 60s Chevys are prime lowrider material so virtually evrything is available, at a price. (it'sthe '32 Ford of the Lowrider scene) I know the Impala hardtop is the model they all want as has been said but there are plenty of parts in common across the range. Get a copy of Lowrider magazine which should give you the names of lots of suppliers. - www.americanautomags.com/magazines/cat_634823-Lowriders.html
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Jan 20, 2015 23:22:57 GMT
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Its heavy priced at over £3K IMO. Unless its better than it looks.
Theres a lot of people asking big money for yank stuff at the moment and not a lot selling. A lot of cars being broken for the V8 & box and the rest going to the bangers or frag. Real shame.
"It cost me ££££ to import it!" you hear, but what has that to do with anything? Its worth what its worth. Some stuff sits round for years rotting while the seller tries to get what it owes him back.
I've seen that on eBay a few times I'm sure.
Its an easy car to have as a project compared to most early 60s cars from either side of the Atlantic. It could be lovely but it will always have too many doors...
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2015 23:23:19 GMT by akku
1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jan 21, 2015 15:07:35 GMT
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OK guys I went & had another look at the car today using my head.The passenger floor support brace & floor are rusted through & the rear arch tubs need a lot of work.Headlining & door cards are shot to bits.I've decided its really not worth the money for me to do. However it has got me on the look out for a good yank tank,either pickup,4 door or estate.Just not the regular cars everyone wants. I'll thank everyone who posted in this thread for there 2pence & contact info which I'll use in the future. On another note I have found the exact same car as this on ebayusa with trim missing etc for $2200. How much does it cost on average for shipping into UK? www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Impala-1963-impala-v-8-20-wheels-/221668343315?forcerrptr=true&hash=item339c767e13&item=221668343315&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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Jan 21, 2015 16:05:05 GMT
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Prices obviously vary depending where in the States are car is (it's a big country) but around £1000 to £1500 is probably about what you would need. Then you pay import duty on the price of the car, plus vat @ 20% on the car, the duty & the shipping costs.
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mylittletony
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Jan 21, 2015 16:07:09 GMT
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I'd be looking at something more like this if I were in your shoes: ebay linkrunning and driving, from a trader with a decent description, who can also handle shipping for you. At it's current price would be £3100 before any import and taxes are applied. Except no (/few) rust repairs needed on this one! Alternatively, there are a couple of dealers who advertise on rods'n'sods who should be able to find you something that matches your criteria pretty easily.
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Jan 21, 2015 17:15:14 GMT
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Jan 21, 2015 19:26:09 GMT
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Importing a car from the US, I did do a write up on this, it was a sticky or FAQ on importing on here before. Basically allow a couple of grand plus the taxes. Shipping is only part of the cost. You need to get it from where ever it is to the dock - bank on $1 per mile. Get paperwork presented. Pay for loading, dock side fees, storage, maritime insurance (optional), stevedores bribes and so on. Then on the boat (shipping) then unloading, customs fees, paperwork presentation fee, then tax, duty, storage and transport home. Remember VAT is usually due on the cost of the shipping as well. So a grands worth of freight becomes £1200 due to VAT. Once you get it fixed up well enough to drive, you need to convert the lights to UK spec, get an MOT, and the DVLA will want you to pay to register it. Older cars (over 30 years) seem to be fairly easy to get the reduced rate of import taxes at the moment but they periodically tighten up on that.
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1937 Austin Street Rod - 1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1976 Rover V8 - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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